Moving to another Province after PR for work related issues?

[polarbear123]

Hi guys I'm new here. Just asking, I've got my CoPR in Feb 2021 and got my physical PR card in August 2021. I currently live in Manitoba and I was selected through the MPNP program.

My company said they will probably move me back to the office in Ontario.

Can I move to Ontario since I've got the PR card now? Or do I have to stay in Manitoba even if I've got the PR card but got nominated here at first through MPNP?

Will I be able to apply for citizenship after if I moved to Ontario? Or Do I have to work and stay in Manitoba even if I've got the PR card?

I've heard some people with a permanent resident card moved to another province but then when they applied for the citizenship the government of Canada complained that they should have stayed in the same province until citizenship instead of moving... don't know if this is true?

I'm very confused... Please advise thank you.

 

[scylla]

Hi guys I'm new here. Just asking, I've got my CoPR in Feb 2021 and got my physical PR card in August 2021. I currently live in Manitoba and I was selected through the MPNP program.

My company said they will probably move me back to the office in Ontario.

Can I move to Ontario since I've got the PR card now? Or do I have to stay in Manitoba even if I've got the PR card but got nominated here at first through MPNP?

Will I be able to apply for citizenship after if I moved to Ontario? Or Do I have to work and stay in Manitoba even if I've got the PR card?

I've heard some people with a permanent resident card moved to another province but then when they applied for the citizenship the government of Canada complained that they should have stayed in the same province until citizenship instead of moving... don't know if this is true?

I'm very confused... Please advise thank you.

You can move to Ontario. As a PR you can live anywhere. No impacts to the citizenship process. These are just unfounded rumours.

 

[Deleted member 1050918]

You can move to Ontario. As a PR you can live anywhere. No impacts to the citizenship process. These are just unfounded rumours.

How certain are we about this? I saw a few supposedly real cases of people losing their PRs/being denied citizenship because they left their nominating province without a valid reason. Please share more info if possible, thanks.

 

[scylla]

How certain are we about this? I saw a few supposedly real cases of people losing their PRs/being denied citizenship because they left their nominating province without a valid reason. Please share more info if possible, thanks.

That recent story from the Express Entry forum is something someone made up to cause panic. The exact same story made the rounds a few years ago. It's fake.

Look at it this way. If changing provinces after PR was such a problem for citizenship, we would have heard hundreds if not thousands of stories of this happening to people. And yet there's only one fake rumour. We would also have cases on canlii where people have appealed these decisions. I would invite you to find a case on canlii where someone is appealing a citizenship application refusal due to changing provinces.

People can move wherever they want to once they have PR.

The only risks in terms of PNP are while the application is processing (i.e. if it's clear you don't plan to live in the province or are living elsewhere, can can definitely refusal in refusal) and at landing (if at landing, it's clear you are living somewhere else and you can't give an address in the right province for the mailing of your PR card, that can result in your landing being refused and PR being refused). Both of these two things we have seen happen many times on this forum (especially the first). There are no "real" cases where citizenship has been refused. There are no real first hand accounts here of this happening. That means it isn't happening.

 

[Deleted member 1050918]

That recent story from the Express Entry forum is something someone made up to cause panic. The exact same story made the rounds a few years ago. It's fake.

Look at it this way. If changing provinces after PR was such a problem for citizenship, we would have heard hundreds if not thousands of stories of this happening to people. And yet there's only one fake rumour. We would also have cases on canlii where people have appealed these decisions. I would invite you to find a case on canlii where someone is appealing a citizenship application refusal due to changing provinces.

People can move wherever they want to once they have PR.

The only risks in terms of PNP are while the application is processing (i.e. if it's clear you don't plan to live in the province or are living elsewhere, can can definitely refusal in refusal) and at landing (if at landing, it's clear you are living somewhere else and you can't give an address in the right province for the mailing of your PR card, that can result in your landing being refused and PR being refused). Both of these two things we have seen happen many times on this forum (especially the first). There are no "real" cases where citizenship has been refused. There are no real first hand accounts here of this happening. That means it isn't happening.

Thanks a lot for the info. About living somewhere else at the time of application/processing; how to deal with PNP-Os? How do PNP-Os even get PR via PNP? I'm myself not living in Canada right now but was nominated by a province despite having absolutely zero connections to that province. Many others have been nominated having no ties to the province too. Both IRCC and AINP knew I'm not living in Canada and don't have a job offer in AB yet I received an invitation from AINP. In fact AINP has been inviting complete outlanders with zero ties to AB. The way I imagined my case would be was that I'd first receive a PPR then land in my nominating province and get my PR card etc. Is it how that works for PNP-Os?

 

[scylla]

Thanks a lot for the info. About living somewhere else at the time of application/processing; how to deal with PNP-Os? How do PNP-Os even get PR via PNP? I'm myself not living in Canada right now but was nominated by a province despite having absolutely zero connections to that province. Many others have been nominated having no ties to the province too. The way I imagined my case would be was that I'd first receive a PPR then land in my nominating province and get my PR card etc. Is it how that works for PNP-Os?

Sorry, don't know what you mean by "PNP-Os". Not familiar with that term.

It's not always possible to land in your nominating province. Ideally it's simpler but not always possible. For example, many international flight will fly through BC or ON or QC and that's where a person would do their landing even if they are PRs through SINP. However in this circumstance, that person should have an onward flight to Saskatchewan and should absolutely provide a Sask address for the mailing of their PR card. If someone has obtained PR through SINP but provides an Ontario address for the mailing of the PR card at landing, expect problems. And once a PNP landing goes wrong, it's really not possible to undo based on what I've seen.

 

[Deleted member 1050918]

Sorry, don't know what you mean by "PNP-Os". Not familiar with that term.

It's not always possible to land in your nominating province. Ideally it's simpler but not always possible. For example, many international flight will fly through BC or ON or QC and that's where a person would do their landing even if they are PRs through SINP. However in this circumstance, that person should have an onward flight to Saskatchewan and should absolutely provide a Sask address for the mailing of their PR card. If someone has obtained PR through SINP but provides an Ontario address for the mailing of the PR card at landing, expect problems. And once a PNP landing goes wrong, it's really not possible to undo based on what I've seen.

Thanks a lot. PNP-O means an outland PNP applicant; a person who's been nominated by a province but lives outside of Canada.

So in my case, I live outside of Canada and I'll have to fly to AB after getting PPR. I book a plane ticket to AB; most likely not a direct flight as you said but the officer will see my connecting flight to AB so that's all good. When am I expected to provide an AB address for PR card though? Since I'll be moving to AB for the first time, there'll be a good amount of time I won't have an AB address that I can show.

If it's an airbnb or something where I'm planning to stay in AB then I'll need to provide that address I guess.

 

[scylla]

Thanks a lot. PNP-O means an outland PNP applicant; a person who's been nominated by a province but lives outside of Canada.

So in my case, I live outside of Canada and I'll have to fly to AB after getting PPR. I book a plane ticket to AB; most likely not a direct flight as you said but the officer will see my connecting flight to AB so that's all good. When am I expected to provide an AB address for PR card though? Since I'll be moving to AB for the first time, there'll be a good amount of time I won't have an AB address that I can show.

If it's an airbnb or something where I'm planning to stay in AB then I'll need to provide that address I guess.

You are expected to provide / confirm a mailing address for your PR card at landing. Sure, this can be an airbnb or a friend's / relative's house or wherever you are staying the first number of months. That address definitely needs to be in your nominating province. Do not give an address outside of your nominating province. This is how big problems start.

 

[Deleted member 1050918]

You are expected to provide / confirm a mailing address for your PR card at landing. Sure, this can be an airbnb or a friend's / relative's house or wherever you are staying the first number of months. That address definitely needs to be in your nominating province. Do not give an address outside of your nominating province. This is how big problems start.

Great info, thanks! The deeper I dive into this the funnier it gets. AINP knows I have an ongoing grad degree program in another province; they nominated me knowing that. I provided transcripts enrolment letters etc. They also know my program will take some time to finish. Why did they even invite me? I'll be back to Canada once my research here is done so at the time of my CoPR chances are I'm in another province working on an ongoing degree program. How do you think I should handle this with AINP? Obviously I keep both IRCC and AINP updated at all times about my whereabouts and employment status etc. But what else to do? Like I'm in another province studying, and if I really must give an AB address, sure I can but it's kinda obvious I have ongoing things in another province. Yet AINP decided to nominate me... A bit weird...

 

[scylla]

Great info, thanks! The deeper I dive into this the funnier it gets. AINP knows I have an ongoing grad degree program in another province; they nominated me knowing that. I provided transcripts enrolment letters etc. They also know my program will take some time to finish. Why did they even invite me? I'll be back to Canada once my research here is done so at the time of my CoPR chances are I'm in another province working on an ongoing degree program. How do you think I should handle this with AINP? Obviously I keep both IRCC and AINP updated at all times about my whereabouts and employment status etc. But what else to do? Like I'm in another province studying, and if I really must give an AB address, sure I can but it's kinda obvious I have ongoing things in another province. Yet AINP decided to nominate me... A bit weird...

I don't know. That's a messy situation. I'm not sure what to recommend.

If you have other options, you may want to avoid going through AINP to get PR. I'm not sure how this is going to work out since you specifically have ties to other provinces. It would be one thing if you were purely / truly outland with zero current ties to Canada. But you have real ties in other provinces. This makes your situation complex.

How far along are you in the process? Are you in the federal processing stage and have you received approval / PPR?

 

[polarbear123]

That recent story from the Express Entry forum is something someone made up to cause panic. The exact same story made the rounds a few years ago. It's fake.

Look at it this way. If changing provinces after PR was such a problem for citizenship, we would have heard hundreds if not thousands of stories of this happening to people. And yet there's only one fake rumour. We would also have cases on canlii where people have appealed these decisions. I would invite you to find a case on canlii where someone is appealing a citizenship application refusal due to changing provinces.

People can move wherever they want to once they have PR.

The only risks in terms of PNP are while the application is processing (i.e. if it's clear you don't plan to live in the province or are living elsewhere, can can definitely refusal in refusal) and at landing (if at landing, it's clear you are living somewhere else and you can't give an address in the right province for the mailing of your PR card, that can result in your landing being refused and PR being refused). Both of these two things we have seen happen many times on this forum (especially the first). There are no "real" cases where citizenship has been refused. There are no real first hand accounts here of this happening. That means it isn't happening.

Hi thank you. I know a guy who moved back to his previous province because he got scared of these rumors.

I've just got my physical PR card few months ago. Should I talk to an immigration consultant?

If I can have problems when applying for the citizenship after I got the PR because I moved to another province right away for job opportunities, honestly it's not worth it.

I can only imagine what would happen if the citizenship would be denied. I would go crazy lol after ALL the money AND time spent just to get the PR status lol hilarious. I'm still scared though.

 

[Deleted member 1050918]

I don't know. That's a messy situation. I'm not sure what to recommend.

If you have other options, you may want to avoid going through AINP to get PR. I'm not sure how this is going to work out since you specifically have ties to other provinces. It would be one thing if you were purely / truly outland with zero current ties to Canada. But you have real ties in other provinces. This makes your situation complex.

How far along are you in the process? Are you in the federal processing stage and have you received approval / PPR?

I'm past-AOR pre-MEP. It's only been a few weeks since I applied. This is strange because AINP has been inviting many complete outlanders in the same situation as I am. I have ties to another province like those people have ties to their countries (since they're living and working/studying there right now). I'm thinking about asking AINP about this but not sure.

 

[novascotia27]

I'm past-AOR pre-MEP. It's only been a few weeks since I applied. This is strange because AINP has been inviting many complete outlanders in the same situation as I am. I have ties to another province like those people have ties to their countries (since they're living and working/studying there right now). I'm thinking about asking AINP about this but not sure.

Alberta is just giving away PNPs like freebies because the population in the province have been consistently declining over the years. Obviously outlanders aren’t fully aware of the horrible economy AB has, lack of jobs and clown politicians so they issue PNP like crazy.. good luck finding a job in the province! It’s horrible!

 

[canuck78]

Hi guys I'm new here. Just asking, I've got my CoPR in Feb 2021 and got my physical PR card in August 2021. I currently live in Manitoba and I was selected through the MPNP program.

My company said they will probably move me back to the office in Ontario.

Can I move to Ontario since I've got the PR card now? Or do I have to stay in Manitoba even if I've got the PR card but got nominated here at first through MPNP?

Will I be able to apply for citizenship after if I moved to Ontario? Or Do I have to work and stay in Manitoba even if I've got the PR card?

I've heard some people with a permanent resident card moved to another province but then when they applied for the citizenship the government of Canada complained that they should have stayed in the same province until citizenship instead of moving... don't know if this is true?

I'm very confused... Please advise thank you.

Did you get MPNP based on a job offer in Manitoba? You mention your employer will transfer you back to the Ontario office. Were you in Ontario, transferred to Manitoba to get PR and then want to move back to Ontario with the same employer? How long have you spent in MB?

 

[polarbear123]

Did you get MPNP based on a job offer in Manitoba? You mention your employer will transfer you back to the Ontario office. Were you in Ontario, transferred to Manitoba to get PR and then want to move back to Ontario with the same employer? How long have you spent in MB?

No sorry, I came to Manitoba via MPNP with the same employer at first, I've been in Manitoba for 3 years. I've got the PR card few months ago so I applied first via MPNP and then got the PR.

The same employer asked me if I want to move to the Ontario's office, the Manager said since I've got my PR card, I can move to Ontario with no issue? I'm very confused sorry.

I've already got my PR card but I was sponsored at first in Manitoba via the Mpnp program. Thank you.