Immigrate mother and 2 kids to Canada from Malaysia

[tcgl]

Hello,

I like to move my girlfriend and her 2 kids to Canada and I was wondering what kind of challenges i could expect?

Little history about my girlfriend:
employment history, HR, then after having kids she decided to be a teacher been a teacher for 3 years. She teaches English.
kids are 12 years old (twins).
Middle class
no criminal records
I known her for little of a year.
country of origin: Malaysia
After moving to Ontario Canada she will be looking for work but for most part I can handle taking care of her and her 2 kids..
for most part, she will not be dependent on the tax payers/ the system

my history:
I'm financially well of or you could label me as middle income.
I work for local hospital in the IT department.
my employment is secure as anyone else employment.

Is involving a immigration lawyer the best way to handle this type of immigration.

any experience, information, and ideas are all appreciated.
thank you.
t

 

[Buletruck]

Are you married or have you lived together for 12 consecutive months.

 

[tcgl]

not married and we have not lived together for 12 months.

I met her on a dating site and we been talking ever since. I understand the stigma that comes with meeting women online and bring them over to married but in this case its legitimate.

would it help if they all moved in with me for 12 months?

 

[Buletruck]

When you say move in, are you talking a conjugal relationship? If you are just roommates, it won't work. In order to sponsor you have to be married or in a marriage-like relationship.

 

[canuck_in_uk]

not married and we have not lived together for 12 months.

I met her on a dating site and we been talking ever since. I understand the stigma that comes with meeting women online and bring them over to married but in this case its legitimate.

would it help if they all moved in with me for 12 months?

No offence but everyone in your situation believes their relationship to be legitimate. Have you actually met yet?

She would need to show significant ties to her country to be approved for a TRV in order to come stay with you.

 

[scylla]

not married and we have not lived together for 12 months.

I met her on a dating site and we been talking ever since. I understand the stigma that comes with meeting women online and bring them over to married but in this case its legitimate.

would it help if they all moved in with me for 12 months?

You must either live with her continuously for a year to become common law or marry her before you can sponsor her for PR. If you go the marriage route, I would recommend that you visit her a few times before getting married - otherwise you'll run into issues sponsoring her for PR. This has nothing to do with any sort of stigma of meeting anyone online - you need to prove the relationship is genuine (meaning you have met at least a few times in person) and you also need to be either married or common law.

Note that you will be financially responsible for her for three years after she becomes a PR and the financial responsibility commitment is 10 years for her kids. This means that if any time during this period they go on social assistance / welfare - you will be responsible for paying all of this money back to the government.

 

[tcgl]

More confused and looks like I'm up against a wall with no options.

Maybe I better sit down with a immigration lawyer and have a face to face conversation.

We can bring in 30 000 refuges but worried about bringing in people with no issues.

 

[scylla]

More confused and looks like I'm up against a wall with no options.

Maybe I better sit down with a immigration lawyer and have a face to face conversation.

We can bring in 30 000 refuges but worried about bringing in people with no issues.

You don't need an immigration lawyer and having an immigration lawyer assist you won't give you more options than you have now. All this will end up doing is costing you far more money than doing it yourself.

The process for bringing over a spouse/common law partner is extremely straight-forward (quite a bit easier than the refugee process). If you have only been communicating online, then you are at best dating. Dating doesn't allow you to sponsor someone. As explained, in order to sponsor her you must either be married or common law (common law requires you to live together continuously for a full year). So it's very straight forward. You either get married or live together for a year. If you decide to get married, we strongly recommend that you visit her once or twice (or she visit you) BEFORE you take the trip to get married. People who get married the first time they meet in person tend to have issues with the spousal sponsorship process later since this is a red flag (makes CIC concerned the applicant is using the Canadian to get to Canada and the relationship isn't genuine on their side). The rules are what they are because there has been too much marriage fraud in the past.

 

[Buletruck]

The rules are what they are because there has been too much marriage fraud in the past.
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And the Canadians who were defrauded ended up paying to support illegitimate spouses. The government does this to protect you, because Canadians asked them to.

 

[tcgl]

Regarding living together as common law for a year.

Unlikely I can give up my job for 12 months as it will be our primary source of income, so is it possible for her to move to Canada with her 2 kids for 12 months to satisfy the requirements?

 

[Buletruck]

She could apply for a TRV. But she will need to prove she can afford the trip and that she intends to return to Malaysia. Asking for an extended period, with 2 kids to visit her boyfriend will likely result in a refusal. It won't be easy to get, but you can try.

As a word of warning, don't lie about anything on applications to IRCC, they tend to come back and complicate things and IRCC doesn't have much of a sense of humour.

 

[Leon]

More confused and looks like I'm up against a wall with no options.

Maybe I better sit down with a immigration lawyer and have a face to face conversation.

We can bring in 30 000 refuges but worried about bringing in people with no issues.

Immigration doesn't know that your girlfriend doesn't have issues. How could they? They don't even know her. So the first step if you did not visit her already is to do so. Second step, she should apply for a visa to visit you. She should show strong ties to her home country and why she is just going to visit and then return home. It would be a good idea for her to apply alone and leave her kids at home for the first visit because it would be a good reason for her to return home. If denied, that cuts down on your options a bit but if approved, she can come visit you. Next step, you visit her again. Next step after that, she applies for a visit visa for her kids and they all come visit you. At this point, if you are sure about marrying her, you could and if you apply inland, she could have a work permit within 4 months and she doesn't have to leave. Actually shouldn't leave until she gets PR if you apply inland. Or if she never gets a visit visa or her kids don't, you can get married and apply outland and she will join you when she gets the PR.

As others have said, immigration doesn't make it easy to sponsor a partner for the very reason that Canadians have asked them to. Plenty of people thought they knew their partner only to find out that after getting the PR, their partner left them and started another relationship or possibly even was in another relationship the whole time. If they were really unlucky, their partner accused them of abuse, got them kicked out of their own house with a restraining order, then went on welfare which they as the sponsor had to pay for. So in those cases, Canadians have accused immigration of making it too easy and that they should have prevented them from making a big mistake. So now, that's what immigration is trying to do.