If sponsor lives abroad, are 2 employment letters needed?

[fandv]

Hi everyone,

I'm a Canadian citizen. I will be marrying an Indonesian citizen near the end of the year. Soon after the wedding, I plan to sponsor my wife to Canada. As it takes a while to process a sponsorship, I plan to stay in Indonesia to be by her side, until she gets her PR (my Canadian employer is kind enough that they let me work remotely from Indonesia).

As you all know:

1. If a Canadian sponsor lives abroad as the sponsorship application is being processed, he must demonstrate his intention to go back to Canada.


2. Box 18 on this document:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/forms/IMM5491E.PDF

Says "If you are employed, provide an original letter from your current employer stating your period of employment, salary, and regular hours per week".


So:

1. Should I get 2 letters of employment from my employer then? One states my period of employment, salary, and regular hours per week. The other confirms that I will eventually go back to Canada?

Or is it better to combine everything into 1 letter? Can anyone help with the wording perhaps?


2. By the way, to maintain my privacy, I prefer that my employer doesn't know about my personal matters. I will decide whether I will get my employer to also state my intention to eventually bring my wife to Canada, and settle here permanently. But if I didn't, can I instead ask my parents and family friends to write the support letter, verifying my intention to eventually settle in Canada?

(The other letter about salary, etc, I have no choice but to get it from my employer, I guess.)

 

[Sweden]

Hi everyone,

I'm a Canadian citizen. I will be marrying an Indonesian citizen near the end of the year. Soon after the wedding, I plan to sponsor my wife to Canada. As it takes a while to process a sponsorship, I plan to stay in Indonesia to be by her side, until she gets her PR (my Canadian employer is kind enough that they let me work remotely from Indonesia).

As you all know:

1. If a Canadian sponsor lives abroad as the sponsorship application is being processed, he must demonstrate his intention to go back to Canada.


2. Box 18 on this document:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/forms/IMM5491E.PDF

Says "If you are employed, provide an original letter from your current employer stating your period of employment, salary, and regular hours per week".


So:

1. Should I get 2 letters of employment from my employer then? One states my period of employment, salary, and regular hours per week. The other confirms that I will eventually go back to Canada? you don't have to get the second letter from your employer, I think. The first one for sure, the second part - proving that you are going back to Canada - can be done in different ways. You can write a plan on what you intend to do when returning to Canada, to support yourself, where you will live ( if somebody is willing to host you, get a letter from them for example), as well as the practical steps you will take to leave where you are now - notice period for your employer, some countries have letters from the tax office confirming that you are "good to go" etc...

Or is it better to combine everything into 1 letter? Can anyone help with the wording perhaps?


2. By the way, to maintain my privacy, I prefer that my employer doesn't know about my personal matters. I will decide whether I will get my employer to also state my intention to eventually bring my wife to Canada, and settle here permanently. But if I didn't, can I instead ask my parents and family friends to write the support letter, verifying my intention to eventually settle in Canada?yes - you can ask them. There is not only one document needed, but more so, enough evidence to show that you intend to return, and that you are serious about it. Make a plan, and write it down, in details, and add it to your file.

(The other letter about salary, etc, I have no choice but to get it from my employer, I guess.) yes indeed, but it can be very basic

good luck with putting everything together!
Sweden

 

[Fencesitter]

I'm in the same boat in terms of wanting to keep things private. I asked my employer to sign a letter that I wrote stating all the things mentioned on the document checklist. They were unwilling to provide my salary, so I re-wrote the letter without the salary information, but I included my statements of earnings and benefits (2010 and 2011) along with pay stubs for my current contract. I told them that this was needed for tax purposes, which is actually true, as I needed to update some information with CRA. So, if CIC were to call my employer, I'd just explain that I needed it for CRA, then later decided to sponsor my wife to immigrate to Canada....explaining that it is very difficult for her to get a tourist visa, so this is the only way to get her into Canada to 'visit' my family. I am well prepared for whatever happens...

As for proof of intention, I wrote a long, detailed account of everything I could think of...updating CRA, renewing my license, purchasing a car, securing a loan or renting until I have established credit (1-2 years max!), letters from family and my parents stating we can stay with them until we sort out our housing, purchase of cell phones so we can stay in contact, immunizations for our son before he starts kindergarten, mention of elementary and high school where we plan to send him, selling all our possessions here and buying new stuff back in Canada, my wife's plan for the first 3 years (mostly to stay home and take care of our son, but also begin the process of opening an online trading company), etc...etc...it was 4.5 pages single spaced...

The main thing is to ensure that you provide a plan...show excitement...I also wrote a short paragraph talking about how I've been dying to show my wife and son where I grew up...extended family...my old schools...church...etc..etc...leave no doubt that you will be returning...

Aside from the above, I also included e-mails from banks and realty companies enquiring about mortgages and housing...and some of those e-mails mention my employment offer in Canada...a couple of the bankers were really kind and we talked about my son and our future plans...also I am a registered student at a Canadian university and I included some information about this (student ID number, course, my plans for completing my studies, etc...)...the big one was the employment offer with a Canadian company and a pretty nice salary...so I have included 3 things noted on the IMM form...plus a whole bunch of other detailed information...

I am still waiting for sponsorship approval, but I am very confident everything will be fine...it has to be...I can't continue living in China and I must get my son to a developed country where he can have a normal childhood!!

FS

 

[itscoezy]

Hi everyone,

I'm a Canadian citizen. I will be marrying an Indonesian citizen near the end of the year. Soon after the wedding, I plan to sponsor my wife to Canada. As it takes a while to process a sponsorship, I plan to stay in Indonesia to be by her side, until she gets her PR (my Canadian employer is kind enough that they let me work remotely from Indonesia).

As you all know:

1. If a Canadian sponsor lives abroad as the sponsorship application is being processed, he must demonstrate his intention to go back to Canada.


2. Box 18 on this document:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/forms/IMM5491E.PDF

Says "If you are employed, provide an original letter from your current employer stating your period of employment, salary, and regular hours per week".


So:

1. Should I get 2 letters of employment from my employer then? One states my period of employment, salary, and regular hours per week. The other confirms that I will eventually go back to Canada?

Or is it better to combine everything into 1 letter? Can anyone help with the wording perhaps?


2. By the way, to maintain my privacy, I prefer that my employer doesn't know about my personal matters. I will decide whether I will get my employer to also state my intention to eventually bring my wife to Canada, and settle here permanently. But if I didn't, can I instead ask my parents and family friends to write the support letter, verifying my intention to eventually settle in Canada?

(The other letter about salary, etc, I have no choice but to get it from my employer, I guess.)

I also work remotely from my SO's country (mexico) and I only submitted one letter. I did however have my company state I would be coming back to Canada and would be promoted at that time. Your employer is going to know your wife is back in Canada when it comes time to you guys moving I'm sure (Picking u up from work, work functions, small talk etc) so I wouldn't risk not providing CIC enough information because of privacy... my opinion
Goodluck

 

[fandv]

Hi everyone,

Thanks for the replies .

Now what about these:

a. let's say when I submitted the application, I provide an employment letter from my current employer. But let's say a few months after submitting the application to the CIC, I get a new job. Should I then send a letter to the CIC, telling them all about the new job and employer then?

b. how unfortunate that this is happening at such a wrong moment: my current employer is going through some financial hardships (yeah, right when I am about to sponsor someone....nice, how helpful the situation is! *sarcasm*). Talking about worst case scenario: if I were to lose my job after submitting the employment letter from the current employer, would I have to inform the CIC too?
And until I find a new job, will I be deemed ineligible to sponsor?

The last thing I want is for the CIC to call my current employer to verify my employment, and then my employer tells them "unfortunately he no longer works for us". I would get in trouble, wouldn't I......?

 

[CharlieD10]

1. If you change jobs, just notify the visa office processing your spouse's application.

2. No, you won't be deemed ineligible to sponsor if you lose your job and it takes a while to be re-employed. Remember, you are not obliged to meet a specific income level, you are obliged not to be on social assistance unless you are disabled, not be an undischarged bankrupt, and have the clear ability to provide the necessities your spouse needs without depending on social assistance.

3. If your spouse has transferable skills, or funds, or assets, make sure to emphasise that in your application, or to play these up by sending additional information to the visa office.

If they verify your current employment with your employer (unlikely but not impossible), then you can head off any questions by having already submitted information to the visa office that you remain eligible to sponsor because you are not resorting to welfare but have a new job. Don't send the information to CIC, by the way, send it to the visa office processing your spouse's application. It is the visa office that will assess your spouse in relation to Section A39, which is where proof that you are capable of supporting them still, in spite of the job loss/change, and proof that they can become self-supporting will be important.