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jma

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Job Offer........
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Nov/2010
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waived
Passport Req..
june 2011
VISA ISSUED...
june,2011
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june,2011
hi all
my wife also my sponsor is pregnant and we have only our wedding pics {25}
as you know nairobi is the worst office
idont know whether my wife's pregnancy will effect our process
and the issue of pics i have no idea whether it's enough to have 25 pics to show our relationship is genuine so any advice is highly appreciated
 
The pregnancy will have no effect and is that all the proof you have is 25 pics?Do you have any phone calls,emails,etc?
 
You will certainly have to have more proof than that. There are cases where people have had several children together but are still turned down for lack of proof. There are several threads about proof of relationship but here are a few things:

-cards, letters, emails
-chat logs, phone logs, however you communicate
-letters from friends and family about how they know your relationship is true
-invitations for things like weddings, engagement parties, etc
-tickets and momentos from visits
-any kind of financial or insurance records that tie you two together
-anything that shows you are in a relationship... for example, I printed a dedication to my hubby in my graduate school graduation program, things like that.
 
Include proof you wife is pregnant in your application. Nairobi takes a long time, so the child will probably be born before your interview, so you can include DNA tests to prove you are the father - they are expensive, though, so most people wait until the visa officer or CIC asks for tests before providing them.
You need more proof than just 25 wedding photos. Wedding photos only prove there was a wedding. You have to prove your relationship is genuine. Photos of the two of you with relatives and friends in a variety of places over several years will help. If you don't have this, the visa officer will want to know why. Nairobi is difficult, so 25 photos is not enough anyway.
Your child will be a Canadian citizen, so it will certainly not hurt your application. A child, though, is not enough proof of a genuine marriage. Look through the forums and use the search button to find other discussions of what kinds of things people used to show their relationship was genuine.
 
thank you all
but i have a dvd which we recorded in our wedding ceremony
is that enough 2 show that our marriege is genuine
we don't have phone calls because we used cards so thre no record in our calls
and we have this dvd and 25pics of our wedding nothing more
what do you think?
any advice
 
Did you guys ever take any trips together? We had a bunch of those email confirmation for plane and hotel reservations with both of our names on it, and that helped. Or if you or your wife have copies of tickets proving that you have visited each other. Plus I named Miguel as the beneficiary on my life insurance. If your wife has insurance at her job, see if she named you as a beneficiary. Also, it might be helpful to send a few copies of emails you have sent to each other.

Anyway, just a few suggestions... good luck!!
 
jma said:
thank you all
but i have a dvd which we recorded in our wedding ceremony
is that enough 2 show that our marriege is genuine
we don't have phone calls because we used cards so thre no record in our calls
and we have this dvd and 25pics of our wedding nothing more
what do you think?
any advice

I'm pretty sure they don't accept dvds, only still pictures. I would have more evidence than just that.
 
You have no other photos of your relationship? Did you visit one another at all before the wedding? Just proving the wedding itself isn't going to be enough. You have to prove the relationship before and after the marriage.
 
thank you all
let me say a few things
first we are relative and we gt this feeling {love} mid 2008 and we hooked up and startd courting in that year so she cme 2 vist me dec last year{2009} we gt married sme month and she went back 2 canada in feb so we dont have enough time to arrange more photos or trips
i just managed 25 pic and dvd and now she's pregnant and needs help she can't live without me
that's my story we eevery thing marriege certificate affidavit showing we are husband and wife and other ducmnts i don't know whether this will be enough 2 show our marriege is genuine
any advice
 
Well if you started courting in 2008, surely you have some emails or msn chat logs, right?? I'm not very experience with this, but maybe someone can help - does msn chat automatically save your IMs?
 
The problem is not proving that you are properly married, the marriage certificate and photos will prove that. The DVD of the wedding (which they won't accept anyways) won't add any aditional weight. The issue is proving that your RELATIONSHIP is genuine, and you are truly in love, not in a marriage of convenience. The fact that you are relatives will cause suspiscion right there, they may think you are marrying a Canadian relative just to get into Canada.

You have a lot of strikes against you, if that is your only proof. For example, I visited my husband (Nigerian) 7 times before getting married. We have chat logs, emails, text mesages, phone calls, postcards and letters sent by regular mail showing the progression of our relationship between meeting online, getting engaged 9 months later, and marrying a year after that. It shows that we put a lot of effort and money into growing our relationship before getting married. Marrying your wife on her first trip to visit you will more often than not make it seem like it is simply a marriage of convenience. Do you not even have other photos taken of the two of you together between December and January?

Without having additional evidence of at least your constant communication between 2008 and now, I'm sorry to say but you most likely will be rejected for not having a genuine relationship. Baby or not. Makes no difference. I'm sorry.

*I just wanted to add that if your relationship truly is genuine and you and your wife love each other and will stay together no matter what, I'm sorry that you do not have what the Canadian Government requires from you as far as evidence. You have to understand that people all over the world enter into marriages of convenience with Canadians every single day to try to better their lives in our wonderful country. It is because of these 'fake' marriages that CIC has to be sure without a doubt that your marriage is genuine. Your options at this point may be limited to having your wife move to Africa to live with you for a year or so, during which time you will gather evidence of your genuine relationship, to then apply when you have a case. Right now your application would be so weak, I don't think you have a leg to stand on.
 
thanks bobshynoswife
i think we 3pics we clicked inside our home and i don't know whether it works or not
and let me remind you i said we raltive but that's not we just married 2 have a batter life we are in love this idea {sponsor} cme just last month and she found that she can't live without help as she's pregnant which needs more care
so i don't know what 2 do?
 
That doesn't really make sense. If she just decided to sponsor you last month because she is pregnant and needs you around, what type of marriage were you planning to have while living on different continents?

Start making phone calls to each other immediately, using landlines or cell phones that will have itemized bills. Chat via skype and msn and save your chat logs. Send each other postcards and letters in the mail.

I don't know what else to say. I believe you when you say you love her, but the whole situation seems very strange.
 
jma said:
first we are relative and we gt this feeling {love} mid 2008 and we hooked up and startd courting in that year so she cme 2 vist me dec last year{2009} we gt married sme month and she went back 2 canada in feb so we dont have enough time to arrange more photos or trips
At the moment you do not have enough evidence for any office, and certainly not enough for Nairobi.
1. The visa office will not accept a DVD as evidence. If there is some part that looks particularly romantic, get a screen shot of it. However, it is the DVD of your wedding, and your only photos are also of the wedding, so it won't help much. The visa officer will believe you are married; the question is, is it a genuine marriage?
2. Your wife came to visit you, so you have evidence of that trip: a visa and entry and exit stamps in her passport, her plane ticket, and her boarding passes - there and back.
3. She stayed in Kenya for December, January, and February. Did you have a honeymoon, ever stay at a hotel together, eat out at a restaurant together, go sightseeing together? Hotel and restaurant receipts, and any evidence of sightseeing, such as tickets, can be used as evidence. I realize you might not have kept such things, but check - you or your wife might have kept something, or you might be able to get copies of hotel receipts.
4. Your wife must have met your friends and other relatives when she was with you in Kenya. Get affidavits from these people, stating how they know you, when they met your wife, what they did together with the two of you during her trip there, and that they think your relationship is genuine because ... Affidavits are the best, but letters or emails saying the same thing are also good.
5. Start getting proof right now that you are communicating with her. Have her call you using a land line or cell phone that will produce a monthly bill with your phone number on it. If you will only use phone cards, at least keep them all, photocopy, and include in the application with an explanation you use cards becausr they are so much cheaper. Still, they are usually not considered useful evidence. If you use Skype or some instant messenging service, a log of your calls can be made and printed out. Start emailing and keep them. If you don't have easy access to a computer, the price of going to an internet cafe once a week is worth it for the evidence it can give you. Write letters to each other - talk about the baby and how much you miss your wife. Send cards, gifts; your wife can also send you mooney, if possible.
6. The Nairobi office takes on average 18 months to 26 months to process a spousal application, so your wife should try to visit you a least once more. As often as possible would be the best.
7. You have so little evidence right now that I would suggest, if you make your application now, that you collect evidence of contact after the application and send it in to be added to the application in about a year. Then continue to collect evidence of contact and show it to the visa officer at your interview. Usually they don't like people to send extra evidence in after the application is received, and it will delay things a bit, but in your case it will be necessary.
8. I realize you don't want to delay your application, but it would help if you waited for a while - let's say 6 months to a year - and developed your long-distance relationship, keeping proof of everything. The way it is now, you'll probably be refused, and will then have to wait a year or more for the appeal anyway. Better if you get enough evidence to get accepted first.
9. Is your wife a Canadian citizen or a PR? If she is a Canadian citizen, she could come live with you for 6 months or a year, which would help the application a lot. If she is a PR, she will have to stay in Canada. You may not want the baby totay in Kenay though, I undrstand.
 
hi guys
my name is mrs ongeri iam sponsoring my husband who lives kenya @ moment as he said before we have only 25 pics which is our weddning photos and a dvd
we don't have any record about the hotels we used our honeymoon the resturents
i have my tickets go and back when i visited in kenya
i dont know whether this tickets
is usefull to proof that our relationship is genuine. iam pregnant
and i thought our unborn child is enough to show that we are in love and we commited our marriege
so help me out