help would be much appreciated

[Rob_TO]

We sent a huuuuuuuuuuge load to CIC to show them the genuinity of our relationship. Loads of photos, receipts, a thick pile of text messages, joint account info and usage, address change/license/car ownership/health card changes/bank changes, we filed taxes together, letters from friends and family, etc. We also sent more additional information 3 months later to show them MORE proof that our relationship is REAL and is ONGOING. And we did send it originally after the 24th of Sept. 2012. How does that changes things?

Don't worry about the date the application was sent. The 2 year conditional PR mentioned here, is just stating that after PR is issued, if within 2 years the relationship ends or couple stops living with each other, the PR can be revoked. For any real genuine couple, this should not be an issue and CIC will not even ask for proofs. And the actual date this began was Oct 25, 2012... so if you had your app received Oct 19 you will not even be under this new rule.

When you submit an inland application while currently here legally, you get an Implied Status to remain in Canada through the life of the application process, so I don't think he can be deported.

Note that it looks very obvious a big reason you got married was to appeal and prevent the deportation, so this will be seen as a red flag to CIC. However it sounds like you have a ton of proofs that the relationship is genuine. CIC will not simply reject an application based on a red flag, the visa officer should always give you the chance to address any concerns like this by asking you to send more info, or as last resort to do an interview. Hopefully the ample proofs and genuineness of your relationship will be apparent to the VO processing your file.

 

[anna_i87]

Don't worry about the date the application was sent. The 2 year conditional PR mentioned here, is just stating that after PR is issued, if within 2 years the relationship ends or couple stops living with each other, the PR can be revoked. For any real genuine couple, this should not be an issue and CIC will not even ask for proofs. And the actual date this began was Oct 25, 2012... so if you had your app received Oct 19 you will not even be under this new rule.

When you submit an inland application while currently here legally, you get an Implied Status to remain in Canada through the life of the application process, so I don't think he can be deported.

Note that it looks very obvious a big reason you got married was to appeal and prevent the deportation, so this will be seen as a red flag to CIC. However it sounds like you have a ton of proofs that the relationship is genuine. CIC will not simply reject an application based on a red flag, the visa officer should always give you the chance to address any concerns like this by asking you to send more info, or as last resort to do an interview. Hopefully the ample proofs and genuineness of your relationship will be apparent to the VO processing your file.

Thank you for your input.

I made a mistake in explaining. He received the deportation date sometime AFTER the wedding, sorry, not before, just wanted to clear that up. However, it was closely around the time. And we appealed around the same time we sent out our sponsorship. Does that still make much of a difference?

There is absolutely no problem for us to show the genuineness of our relationship, as long as that chance is given.

I put our sponsorship together myself. I believe I did a pretty good job at it. I'm excellent with documents, paperwork, and detail. I did not leave anything to chance and explained every event, every picture, every document, etc. in great but brief detail. I even went as far as writing a letter to them. We gathered about 13 letters from friends and family, signed and phone numbers attached. As a sponsor, I included my income by providing them with paystubs for the past year (I have 2 incomes from 2 jobs, I've had since 2007; shows commitment/stability), tax returns for the past 3 years. Like I said, I can go on and on.

 

[Rob_TO]

I made a mistake in explaining. He received the deportation date sometime AFTER the wedding, sorry, not before, just wanted to clear that up. However, it was closely around the time. And we appealed around the same time we sent out our sponsorship. Does that still make much of a difference?

One of the biggest reasons spousal claims are denied in general, is CIC feels they are relationships or marriages "of convenience". This means they think the only reason a couple got married, is so the applicant can gain PR status into Canada. So this is why you can see how a wedding/submitting application immediately after getting a deportation order, would be viewed as suspicious by CIC!

Anyways, if in actuality you had the wedding before you guys ever knew he would get a deportation order, then that will hopefully eliminate one of the red flags in your application. In this case it would be obvious the potential deportation had no influence on your decision to get married, and the marriage was solely due to your genuine relationship.

 

[anna_i87]

One of the biggest reasons spousal claims are denied in general, is CIC feels they are relationships or marriages "of convenience". This means they think the only reason a couple got married, is so the applicant can gain PR status into Canada. So this is why you can see how a wedding/submitting application immediately after getting a deportation order, would be viewed as suspicious by CIC!

Anyways, if in actuality you had the wedding before you guys ever knew he would get a deportation order, then that will hopefully eliminate one of the red flags in your application. In this case it would be obvious the potential deportation had no influence on your decision to get married, and the marriage was solely due to your genuine relationship.

Sorry for the misunderstanding. We did in fact have the wedding before.
Thanks for the info, very useful.