Help with NOC I'm really confused!

[jfbco077]

Hi,

I would really appreciate your help on choosing a NOC for my job description below.

• Works closely with brand marketers across the portfolio to support and strengthen the commercial marketing strategies and tactical plans by introducing applicable, relevant and optimal Digital Marketing strategies that support Personal Promotional strategies (PP). Combines Digital + PP effort to lead the achievement of commercial goals across the brand portfolio.
• Assists in preparing, developing, updating, and presenting strategies and tactics as needed (annual planning, Sales & Marketing POA meetings). Digital resource allocation and effort will be measured as part of the entire commercial effort allocation as a determinant of an optimal tactical mix.
• Assists in performing on-going Digital Marketing business analysis for assigned markets, products and potential business opportunities.
• Assists in communicating and coordinating with all company departments to manage applicable budgets.
• Interacts with Sales Leadership and Field Sales Teams to effectively anticipate and respond to customer needs
  
• Assist internal and external staff resolving various IT issues, maintaining up to date technologies, and dealing with vendors.
• Provides, maintains, and updates IT policies, procedures and documentation such as SOPs, and manuals
• Works with Global to resolve IT support tickets
• Maintains, updates, and manages internal Sharepoint sites providing training and solutions to internal and external staff

I'm looking at 2171 or 2282.

I did Computer Engineering Technology, a 3 year advanced diploma at a Canadian college.

Thank you in advance!
Jayme

 

[jes_ON]

Hi,

I would really appreciate your help on choosing a NOC for my job description below.

• Works closely with brand marketers across the portfolio to support and strengthen the commercial marketing strategies and tactical plans by introducing applicable, relevant and optimal Digital Marketing strategies that support Personal Promotional strategies (PP). Combines Digital + PP effort to lead the achievement of commercial goals across the brand portfolio.
• Assists in preparing, developing, updating, and presenting strategies and tactics as needed (annual planning, Sales & Marketing POA meetings). Digital resource allocation and effort will be measured as part of the entire commercial effort allocation as a determinant of an optimal tactical mix.
• Assists in performing on-going Digital Marketing business analysis for assigned markets, products and potential business opportunities.
• Assists in communicating and coordinating with all company departments to manage applicable budgets.
• Interacts with Sales Leadership and Field Sales Teams to effectively anticipate and respond to customer needs
  
• Assist internal and external staff resolving various IT issues, maintaining up to date technologies, and dealing with vendors.
• Provides, maintains, and updates IT policies, procedures and documentation such as SOPs, and manuals
• Works with Global to resolve IT support tickets
• Maintains, updates, and manages internal Sharepoint sites providing training and solutions to internal and external staff

I'm looking at 2171 or 2282.

I did Computer Engineering Technology, a 3 year advanced diploma at a Canadian college.

I would say 2171 or 0124, depending.... what is your job title and the title of your direct supervisor?

(Yes, duties matter more than job title, I'm asking only to get a sense of where you fit in the organizational hierarchy...).

 

[jfbco077]

I would say 2171 or 0124, depending.... what is your job title and the title of your direct supervisor?

(Yes, duties matter more than job title, I'm asking only to get a sense of where you fit in the organizational hierarchy...).

My job title is Digital Marketing Specialist and my supervisor's title is Senior Product Manager OTC, but before it was Manager, Innovative Marketing and NPP, I basically took his previous position without the manager pay and a different title. Above him is the Director of Commercial Excellence.

 

[jfbco077]

I would say 2171 or 0124, depending.... what is your job title and the title of your direct supervisor?

(Yes, duties matter more than job title, I'm asking only to get a sense of where you fit in the organizational hierarchy...).

I saw 0124 as well, but it is more in the manager level and I did not have that much experience in the field before landing this job, I worked in the company for a year before that in IT support only, but that was while I was a full time student. Can I still apply for the 0124?

I believe here is where I would fall into based on the description of the NOC, although I had very little of the experience required.

E-business managers

• A university degree or college diploma in a field related to electronic commerce, Web site content development, or Internet services
  and
  Experience in Web site design, interactive media development, data administration or information systems analysis or experience related to Web site content are usually required.

 

[jes_ON]

I saw 0124 as well, but it is more in the manager level and I did not have that much experience in the field before landing this job, I worked in the company for a year before that in IT support only, but that was while I was a full time student. Can I still apply for the 0124?

I believe here is where I would fall into based on the description of the NOC, although I had very little of the experience required.

E-business managers

• A university degree or college diploma in a field related to electronic commerce, Web site content development, or Internet services
  and
  Experience in Web site design, interactive media development, data administration or information systems analysis or experience related to Web site content are usually required.

In most cases, you can ignore "experience" requirements. However, you should not use a managerial NOC if you don't have managerial duties.

Have you looked at 4163 and/or 1123? They don't have the IT support stuff, tho. It's like you have a hybrid job...

 

[jfbco077]

In most cases, you can ignore "experience" requirements. However, you should not use a managerial NOC if you don't have managerial duties.

Have you looked at 4163 and/or 1123? They don't have the IT support stuff, tho. It's like you have a hybrid job...

Thanks for the suggestions, I just checked them. I do think 0124 fits the most with what I do, and 2171 could work too, but the duties for the latter are not described well in my job profile, so that might cause a problem. See how confused I am?

 

[jes_ON]

Thanks for the suggestions, I just checked them. I do think 0124 fits the most with what I do, and 2171 could work too, but the duties for the latter are not described well in my job profile, so that might cause a problem. See how confused I am?

Everyone knows the NOC system is imperfect. You might want to ask your employer's opinion about the best fit.

You can also send your job description to ESDC and ask their opinion - it is always better to include 1-2 sentences about the company you work for - what they do (services/products), who the customers are - this can help distinguish between NOCs.
http://www1.canada.ca/en/contact/noc.html

Note that the ESDC opinion may be useful (or may not, you may disagree), but it is not binding on IRCC to accept their opinion.

Ultimately, which ever one you chose, if you remain in doubt, write a letter of explanation about why you chose the NOC, which other ones you considered, and why you think your job is a mix of 2 (or more) NOCs. Since all of the ones you considered are "skilled" it likely won't be an issue, as long as you provide an explanation.

 

[jfbco077]

Everyone knows the NOC system is imperfect. You might want to ask your employer's opinion about the best fit.

You can also send your job description to ESDC and ask their opinion - it is always better to include 1-2 sentences about the company you work for - what they do (services/products), who the customers are - this can help distinguish between NOCs.
http://www1.canada.ca/en/contact/noc.html

Note that the ESDC opinion may be useful (or may not, you may disagree), but it is not binding on IRCC to accept their opinion.

Ultimately, which ever one you chose, if you remain in doubt, write a letter of explanation about why you chose the NOC, which other ones you considered, and why you think your job is a mix of 2 (or more) NOCs. Since all of the ones you considered are "skilled" it likely won't be an issue, as long as you provide an explanation.

omg jes_ON, you are the best! I literally feel a lot more relaxed now with all youra dvice, thank you so much, seriously! I just sent ESDC an email and I will speak to my employer again tomorrow.