Help please, about Sponsoring a German common law spouse

[DB2101]

Hi there, I am a Candian citizen, and so are both my kids. (25 & 12). We've been living here in Germany since 2002 and are planning to move back to Ontario in July of this year.

Like I said, my son is also a citizen and he wants to sponsor his common law spouse to come with us as well, and apply for PR from Ontario. She's a German, they've been together for 8 years and living together for 2. Of course she wants to be able to work while it's processing

So, as I understand it, she should just come with us when we travel home in July, and then once we're there she should send in the APR and OWP applications together, right?

Here's the question I can'T seem to find an answer to: What are you supposed to say to the officer as you are arriving at the airport? Do you declare your intention to apply then?

I'm confused because he can sponsor her from Inland if he is a resident, but he'll only be re-establishing residency at that same time, right?

My other question is with respect to income. He is an audio engineer (he has his degree) and is moving home to start his own studio. Does he have to meet certain income requirements in order to be able to sponsor her? I'm buying a house with an in-law apt back in my hometown so they will have no rent to pay, but should it be a worry that we don't know what his income will be initially? He will be using his own capital to start the business, i.e. no loans or anything like that.

Thank you so much for any help you can offer! CAN'T WAIT TO GET BACK HOME!

 

[Mrschino]

Hi there, I am a Candian citizen, and so are both my kids. (25 & 12). We've been living here in Germany since 2002 and are planning to move back to Ontario in July of this year.

Like I said, my son is also a citizen and he wants to sponsor his common law spouse to come with us as well, and apply for PR from Ontario. She's a German, they've been together for 8 years and living together for 2. Of course she wants to be able to work while it's processing

So, as I understand it, she should just come with us when we travel home in July, and then once we're there she should send in the APR and OWP applications together, right?

Here's the question I can'T seem to find an answer to: What are you supposed to say to the officer as you are arriving at the airport? Do you declare your intention to apply then?

I'm confused because he can sponsor her from Inland if he is a resident, but he'll only be re-establishing residency at that same time, right?

My other question is with respect to income. He is an audio engineer (he has his degree) and is moving home to start his own studio. Does he have to meet certain income requirements in order to be able to sponsor her? I'm buying a house with an in-law apt back in my hometown so they will have no rent to pay, but should it be a worry that we don't know what his income will be initially? He will be using his own capital to start the business, i.e. no loans or anything like that.

Thank you so much for any help you can offer! CAN'T WAIT TO GET BACK HOME!

There is no minimum income to sponsor. I wish I could help with the rest, but my case is Outland, I don't know anything about inland apps or work permits!

 

[MilesAway]

It would be a better idea to start the process outland, so after arriving in Canada, they would only have a few months left to wait for PR, rather than at least 4 months for the OWP, and 2+ years for PR.

 

[DB2101]

It would be a better idea to start the process outland, so after arriving in Canada, they would only have a few months left to wait for PR, rather than at least 4 months for the OWP, and 2+ years for PR.

Would she still be allowed to come to Canada in July? And the CIC site says outland processing is 17 months, so if that was really the case, wouldn't that mean she would be in Canada but unable to work for a year? We are just starting this journey, so I'm sorry if I'm asking beginner questions. We aren't worried about how long the entire timeline is from start to landing, but it's important that she is able to come with us in July, and able to work during the processing.

 

[MilesAway]

She can still come to visit. Outland applicants are not eligible for open work permits.
Vienna has been quite fast as of late, with people being done in 5 or 6 months. If they apply now, then she would be unable to work for a few months until the PR is done. She would be unable to work for at least 4 months to get the OWP with inland anyway.

 

[MilesAway]

Editing wasn't working properly. You could look into IEC for working holiday visas. Germany seems to qualify for them. http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/work/iec/eligibility.asp?country=de&cat=wh

 

[DB2101]

She can still come to visit. Outland applicants are not eligible for open work permits.
Vienna has been quite fast as of late, with people being done in 5 or 6 months. If they apply now, then she would be unable to work for a few months until the PR is done. She would be unable to work for at least 4 months to get the OWP with inland anyway.

German outland apps go via Vienna?

 

[MilesAway]

Yes. Everything goes to Mississauga first for sponsor approval, then it's forwarded to Vienna.

 

[DB2101]

Yes. Everything goes to Mississauga first for sponsor approval, then it's forwarded to Vienna.

Wow, this is really good info, thanks. The question is how quickly we could get all the info together, I thought we'd only be applying in July so we've just started putting it together.

If she came with us in July as a visitor, she would have to leave again after 6 months if her file wasn't yet approved, right? And if they decided they wanted and interview, they would both have to fly to Vienna? Or could they do the interview in Canada?

 

[MilesAway]

She could apply to extend her stay online. It's very rare for standard applications to require an interview. Looking at the Vienna thread, the applicants that were required to attend interviews had been deported from Canada or had failed refugee claims. The others were for men from the various Balkan countries who were required to attend a security interview for their military service at the time of the conflicts.

Start looking at the police certificates since those are generally the longest to get. Otherwise go through the checklists carefully and see what else is needed.

 

[DB2101]

She could apply to extend her stay online. It's very rare for standard applications to require an interview. Looking at the Vienna thread, the applicants that were required to attend interviews had been deported from Canada or had failed refugee claims. The others were for men from the various Balkan countries who were required to attend a security interview for their military service at the time of the conflicts.

Start looking at the police certificates since those are generally the longest to get. Otherwise go through the checklists carefully and see what else is needed.

Thanks so much, do you have the link to the vienna thread please? I can't find it.

 

[MilesAway]

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/vienna-office-t74361.9030.html

 

[DB2101]

Thanks - getting the German Police report here does not require fingerprints and it can be done on the spot, so that's good. I will talk so my DIL and see about what she wants to do.

 

[MilesAway]

Don't let the open work permit lure you in.
We had one US member who got quite upset when she saw that applicants who had applied 2 years after her were being approved outland, while she was still waiting for AIP inland, with another 6-10 months to wait. I believe OHIP requires AIP, so you would need to wait 17+ months to get health care with inland.

 

[DB2101]

Don't let the open work permit lure you in.
We had one US member who got quite upset when she saw that applicants who had applied 2 years after her were being approved outland, while she was still waiting for AIP inland, with another 6-10 months to wait. I believe OHIP requires AIP, so you would need to wait 17+ months to get health care with inland.

This information is gold, thank you so much. Of course, being Canadian I never looked into how to become a PR.....We have 4 months until we move so it really does seem like it would be faster. When I looked it up and saw 17 months on the official site, I discarded that approach. So much to learn. I did think they changed the OHIP rule but I could be wrong. Either way, the critical thing here is to be together and be able to work as soon as possible, so thanks for the tip ;D