having difficult choose an appropriate NOC

[d2lu]

Hi guys,

I am planning to apply for PR through the CEC program, but I'm having some dilemma in choosing the NOC.

I work in an engineering consulting company, and my title is "Researcher". I mostly do research related stuff. But as an entry-level position, its official job duties are something below:
• Assists senior engineers with modeling of engineering systems, as well as data reduction analysis.
• Assists senior engineers and technologists in specimen preparation, installing instrumentation and data acquisition systems, conducting full-scale tests under combined and complex loading and extreme environmental conditions.
• Assists senior engineers in preparing technical proposals and reports.
• Conducts marketing and business development activities such as presentations to clients and manning trade show booths under direct guidance of more senior employees

Solely from the job description, I feel the position probably fits in NOC 2232 mechanical technician (please correct me if my judgment is wrong), which is of skill level B. However, I may be able to push our HR to add a few other things that I actually do like participating in the development of analysis methodologies and conducting those analyses and interpreting results, and maybe remove a few "assists" in the official job duties, so that it looks more like NOC 2148 other professional engineer, specifically engineering scientist, which is of skill level A.

So here are my questions:
(1) Are there any disadvantages to apply using NOC with a lower skill level? One of my concerns is that NOC 2232 requires only college education, while I have a post-graduate degree. Is that going to be a problem?
(2) If I apply in NOC 2148 other professional engineer, will it be an issue that I am not yet a P.Eng？
(3) is there a better NOC that I am not aware of?

Thanks all.

 

[Toronto2013]

one way to approach this is to find out under what NOC your WP is issued. On your WP, for occupation they would have put a role/title. Google that and find respective NOC.

 

[d2lu]

Thanks for the suggestion. But I am on the post-graduate open work permit and there is no NOC on that

 

[Hope1957]

Please contact HRSDC Inquiry team and they will be able to assist you with an appropriate NOC Code for your occupation. However, bear in mind that their opinion does not have a final say on your NOC code for your application, the visa officer does.

Hi guys,

I am planning to apply for PR through the CEC program, but I'm having some dilemma in choosing the NOC.

I work in an engineering consulting company, and my title is "Researcher". I mostly do research related stuff. But as an entry-level position, its official job duties are something below:
• Assists senior engineers with modeling of engineering systems, as well as data reduction analysis.
• Assists senior engineers and technologists in specimen preparation, installing instrumentation and data acquisition systems, conducting full-scale tests under combined and complex loading and extreme environmental conditions.
• Assists senior engineers in preparing technical proposals and reports.
• Conducts marketing and business development activities such as presentations to clients and manning trade show booths under direct guidance of more senior employees

Solely from the job description, I feel the position probably fits in NOC 2232 mechanical technician (please correct me if my judgment is wrong), which is of skill level B. However, I may be able to push our HR to add a few other things that I actually do like participating in the development of analysis methodologies and conducting those analyses and interpreting results, and maybe remove a few "assists" in the official job duties, so that it looks more like NOC 2148 other professional engineer, specifically engineering scientist, which is of skill level A.

So here are my questions:
(1) Are there any disadvantages to apply using NOC with a lower skill level? One of my concerns is that NOC 2232 requires only college education, while I have a post-graduate degree. Is that going to be a problem?
(2) If I apply in NOC 2148 other professional engineer, will it be an issue that I am not yet a P.Eng？
(3) is there a better NOC that I am not aware of?

Thanks all.

 

[jes_ON]

So here are my questions:
(1) Are there any disadvantages to apply using NOC with a lower skill level? One of my concerns is that NOC 2232 requires only college education, while I have a post-graduate degree. Is that going to be a problem?

Some applicants try to "down skill" because they can't get the higher IELTS score needed for the higher level occupations, CIC does catch them sometimes. But this does not appear to be an issue in your case, so the only disadvantage would be if CIC determined that your duties did not match the NOC. In that case, it is not up to CIC to find the correct NOC (although I have seen it happen, most likely this would lead to refusal).


(2) If I apply in NOC 2148 other professional engineer, will it be an issue that I am not yet a P.Eng？

No, but I think you're misinterpreting the NOC, it's for engineering professions that do not have their own NOC. If you're in mechanical engineering, it already has an NOC 2132.


(3) is there a better NOC that I am not aware of?

The duties you list do not seem to fit well with the title of researcher; always go with the duties over title when selecting the NOC. NOC 2232 looks to be appropriate (assuming the type of engineering you're involved with is mechanical engineering). But you can also check these more research-focused NOCs:

NOC 4161 Natural and applied science policy researchers, consultants and program officers
http://www5.hrsdc.gc.ca/NOC/English/NOC/2011/ProfileKeyword.aspx?val=4&val1=4161&val11=research&val12=0&val13=0&val14=&val15=0&val16=0

1254 Statistical officers and related research support occupations
http://www5.hrsdc.gc.ca/NOC/English/NOC/2011/ProfileKeyword.aspx?val=1&val1=1254&val11=research&val12=0&val13=0&val14=&val15=0&val16=0

 

[katherinebobo]

Thanks jes. I do work in the field of mechanical engineering. My job is mostly destroying stuff (pipeline failure modelling and test). But I found NOC 2132 mechanical engineer seems to be quite limited to the traditional design and development of machinery and doesn't really describes what I do. That's why I am hesitating of using NOC 2132.

I was thinking if I can squeeze in a few more research related job duties in my employment letter, I may be able to use the following subcategory of NOC 2148: Engineering physicists and engineering scientists conduct research, develop processes, programs and equipment to expand fundamental knowledge in the applied sciences and engineering and to support advanced engineering and scientific applications.

But if there's no big disadvantage of using NOC 2232, I guess I may just use that one.