Grandparents PR expired while out of country (medical issues)

[Lihking]

Hello,

My grandparent's PR card expired while they were out of country. They went to India to wind down legal and financial documents but one member fell ill, diagnosed with a chronic disease and was medically unable to travel (full documents available).

This member has just been cleared for travel, however it has now been three years since their PR card expired.

How do I go about bringing them back in the country / and renewing their PR card?

Much thanks.

 

[scylla]

They need to apply for PR Travel Documents under H&C. They should supply as much paperwork as they can to prove the illness and show they were unable to leave the country until now.

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigratio...rvices/new-immigrants/pr-travel-document.html

 

[Lihking]

They need to apply for PR Travel Documents under H&C. They should supply as much paperwork as they can to prove the illness and show they were unable to leave the country until now.

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigratio...rvices/new-immigrants/pr-travel-document.html

Hi, thanks for the response. From some research it seems like the H&C approach is risky / takes quite long to process? I'll start putting together their paperwork in any case. Thanks for the info!

 

[scylla]

Hi, thanks for the response. From some research it seems like the H&C approach is risky / takes quite long to process? I'll start putting together their paperwork in any case. Thanks for the info!

It's certainly not guaranteed to work and processing can definitely take some time. However their only other option (apart from applying from scratch) is to fly to the US and then attempt to re-enter Canada by land using a private vehicle and hope they aren't reported at the border for failing to meet the residency obligation. So they really don't have that many options.

 

[Lihking]

It's certainly not guaranteed to work and processing can definitely take some time. However their only other option (apart from applying from scratch) is to fly to the US and then attempt to re-enter Canada by land using a private vehicle and hope they aren't reported at the border for failing to meet the residency obligation. So they really don't have that many options.

That's fair. Is it possible to do both - bring them across the border through the US and at the same time enter H&C PR card renewal? I'd like to get them back here asap before any medical flare ups.

Thanks for the info, you've been super helpful!

 

[scylla]

That's fair. Is it possible to do both - bring them across the border through the US and at the same time enter H&C PR card renewal? I'd like to get them back here asap before any medical flare ups.

Thanks for the info, you've been super helpful!

I think you're a bit confused about the two things. The first thing is a PR Travel Document. This is not a PR card application. It's a travel document that allows them to return to Canada directly (i.e. fly here directly) if approved. If they end up entering through the US - there is no point applying for the PR Travel Document. That will serve no purpose. If they enter through the US and are reported, there's no point applying for a PR card since their next step will be to appear at a hearing to argue why they should be allowed to keep their status. They would need to wait for the outcome of this hearing before applying for new PR cards.

Note that they almost certainly won't have medical coverage here for the first three months (you'll most likely have to pay for any care out of pocket during this period) - it's possible it could be longer without valid PR cards.

 

[Lihking]

I think you're a bit confused about the two things. The first thing is a PR Travel Document. This is not a PR card application. It's a travel document that allows them to return to Canada directly (i.e. fly here directly) if approved. If they end up entering through the US - there is no point applying for the PR Travel Document. That will serve no purpose. If they enter through the US and are reported, there's no point applying for a PR card since their next step will be to appear at a hearing to argue why they should be allowed to keep their status. They would need to wait for the outcome of this hearing before applying for new PR cards.

Note that they almost certainly won't have medical coverage here for the first three months (you'll most likely have to pay for any care out of pocket during this period) - it's possible it could be longer without valid PR cards.

Great, thanks for the info - very helpful. Have a great day.

Cheers.

 

[zardoz]

Great, thanks for the info - very helpful. Have a great day.

Cheers.

One more thing. If the PRTD is denied, it would not matter if they had successfully entered Canada over the land border. Their PR status would still be lost, subject to appeal. To keep PR status, they would have to be granted a PRTD and not be reported at the border. Double Jeopardy.