Getting Reported at US/CAN boarder

[Eafooa]

I have an expired PR since 2010. I have been outside Canada for more than 10 years and I am trying to enter Canada through the US border.

I know that I didn’t meet the RO, but I am trying to restart my life in Canada. In the case I get reported at the border, what actions I need to take to strengthen my status in Canada to appeal the removal order? (getting a job, buying an apartment, etc.). I appreciate all ideas.

 

[Tubsmagee]

I have an expired PR since 2010. I have been outside Canada for more than 10 years and I am trying to enter Canada through the US border.

I know that I didn’t meet the RO, but I am trying to restart my life in Canada. In the case I get reported at the border, what actions I need to take to strengthen my status in Canada to appeal the removal order? (getting a job, buying an apartment, etc.). I appreciate all ideas.

Are you entering Canada on a US passport?

Do you have a SIN already?

Not having a PR card for 2+ years may make it difficult to access services, everything from getting a local drivers license, medical coverage, and potentially a job - if the employer wants some ID. If you don’t have a SIN, it will likely be even harder to settle.

 

[Ponga]

I have an expired PR since 2010. I have been outside Canada for more than 10 years and I am trying to enter Canada through the US border.

I know that I didn’t meet the RO, but I am trying to restart my life in Canada. In the case I get reported at the border, what actions I need to take to strengthen my status in Canada to appeal the removal order? (getting a job, buying an apartment, etc.). I appreciate all ideas.

Getting a job and/or buying an apartment will not do anything to address your non-compliance in meeting the Residency Obligation. If you are reported, and attend a hearing, you would probably have to rely on a successful H&C appeal. Since you haven't said WHY you were away for 12 years, it's hard to tell if you even have a shot at that. Unless you truly do have a legitimate reason to even go down the H & C route, you'd be better off voluntarily renouncing your PR if you are reported. As mentioned by @Tubsmagee, your life in Canada would be challenging, to say the least.

 

[Eafooa]

I don’t have a US passport, but I have a US VISA. I am entering Canada using my expired PR. I already have a SIN.

If the suggestion is to voluntarily renounce my PR, can I reapply to Express Entry - skilled worker?

FYI. I am a physician who graduated from a respected Canadian University and worked in several Canadian hospitals. I have a concern to be rejected because of my age. I am almost 61.

 

[scylla]

I don’t have a US passport, but I have a US VISA. I am entering Canada using my expired PR. I already have a SIN.

If the suggestion is to voluntarily renounce my PR, can I reapply to Express Entry - skilled worker?

FYI. I am a physician who graduated from a respected Canadian University and worked in several Canadian hospitals. I have a concern to be rejected because of my age. I am almost 61.

You won't be rejected through Express Entry because of your age. That's not the problem. The problem is that you won't even be invited (you won't score enough points due to your age).

Voluntarily renouncing PR is not a good idea. It will be extremely difficult for you to get your PR status back if you renounce.

 

[scylla]

I have an expired PR since 2010. I have been outside Canada for more than 10 years and I am trying to enter Canada through the US border.

I know that I didn’t meet the RO, but I am trying to restart my life in Canada. In the case I get reported at the border, what actions I need to take to strengthen my status in Canada to appeal the removal order? (getting a job, buying an apartment, etc.). I appreciate all ideas.

If you are reported and end up in a situation where you have to appeal the loss of your PR status, I recommend the following:

- Don't leave Canada until the hearing
- Make sure you are employed, preferably in your profession
- Buying an apartment / house certainly won't harm
- Community involvement is good to show

 

[armoured]

FYI. I am a physician who graduated from a respected Canadian University and worked in several Canadian hospitals.

- Make sure you are employed, preferably in your profession

Double emphasis - given what is happening with Canadian healthcare (shortage of professionals), working in the field would help your case. Far from a guarantee given how much out of Canada, but it won't hurt.

I'd also suggest that you do some research on what the humanitarian and compassionate considerations (factors) that are typically taken into consideration are. I thought I had bookmarked a link here to what they are (official site) but cannot find it.

 

[canuck78]

I don’t have a US passport, but I have a US VISA. I am entering Canada using my expired PR. I already have a SIN.

If the suggestion is to voluntarily renounce my PR, can I reapply to Express Entry - skilled worker?

FYI. I am a physician who graduated from a respected Canadian University and worked in several Canadian hospitals. I have a concern to be rejected because of my age. I am almost 61.

At your age the fact that you may not be able to get access to healthcare for 2+ years may be something you really need to consider. without a valid PR or proof that you have remained living in Canada as a PR all this time but hadn’t renewed your PR card many provinces won’t issue a health card. How long did you spend working in Canada after you got PR? Is there a reason you never got citizenship? When was the last time you practiced medicine in Canada? Have you been practicing medicine elsewhere? Where? Is your goal to practice medicine in Canada? What type of specialty? Have you maintained your professional status and done any continued education?. The other big issue is that your SIN# is likely dormant. To get it active you usually need to have a valid PR card. As a valid PR you have the right to work but without an active PR card done employers may be reluctant to retain your employment if they are contacted by CRA. There is probably a way to legally solve this but it could take time and be expensive.


Looking back on your previous answers I think I missed the fact that you didn’t graduate from medical school in Canada. Is that correct? Did you get relicensed as a physician in Canada? You mention that you worked at various hospitals in Canada But in what capacity? It sounds like you only spend 4 years in Canada in around your late 40s but spent the majority of your life elsewhere. I would be partially concerned about whether it is realistic to return to Canada unless you are returning with a quite large amount of saving. Having not worked in Canada for more than 4 years you don’t have much of a pension that you can count on. Unless you have significant savings you will struggle to survive as you age or if you get sick. Do you have family in Canada? Is there a reason you are returning at this stage of your life?

 

[Ponga]

You won't be rejected through Express Entry because of your age. That's not the problem. The problem is that you won't even be invited (you won't score enough points due to your age).

Voluntarily renouncing PR is not a good idea. It will be extremely difficult for you to get your PR status back if you renounce.

Since the OP had only provided very limited information...it was [at the time of my post] a reasonable idea to consider. Having gleaned more information from the OP's additional information, I don't see how this is going to be a positive outcome, at least for the next 2+ years. Just an opinion, of course.

 

[Eafooa]

Thank you all for your responses. I will try to summaries responses as I understand them:
1) Voluntarily renouncing the PR is not a good idea - knowing the age of the applicant
2) Research on what the humanitarian and compassionate H&C considerations/factors that are typically taken into consideration is a good idea
3) If I get reported:
- Don't leave Canada until the hearing
- Make sure you are employed, preferably in your profession
- Buying an apartment / house certainly won't harm
- Community involvement is good to show
4) Provincial medical coverage will not be possible. Need to buy a private health insurance for 2+ years.
5) May face a difficulty in issuing a driver license with an expired PR. This may affect getting job especially when “background checks” is required to work at hospitals (need to investigate).
6) SIN# is likely dormant. To get it active you usually need to have a valid PR card (need to investigate)

 

[Ponga]

Thank you all for your responses. I will try to summaries responses as I understand them:
1) Voluntarily renouncing the PR is not a good idea - knowing the age of the applicant
2) Research on what the humanitarian and compassionate H&C considerations/factors that are typically taken into consideration is a good idea
3) If I get reported:
- Don't leave Canada until the hearing
- Make sure you are employed, preferably in your profession
- Buying an apartment / house certainly won't harm
- Community involvement is good to show
4) Provincial medical coverage will not be possible. Need to buy a private health insurance for 2+ years.
5) May face a difficulty in issuing a driver license with an expired PR. This may affect getting job especially when “background checks” is required to work at hospitals (need to investigate).
6) SIN# is likely dormant. To get it active you usually need to have a valid PR card (need to investigate)

RE: 3)

Again, buying an apartment or house, nor community involvement, will remedy the fact that you have not complied with the Residency Obligation to maintain PR status. They may show that you are attempting to [finally] settle in Canada, going forward, but don't help with the situation that you are in today.

RE: 4)

If you have not yet selected the province where you wish to restart your life in Canada, make sure to research things like obtaining a DL. Some provinces (i.e. British Columbia) make it impossible without a valid PR card, whereas others (perhaps Ontario) will only require an expired PR card, or COPR document.