Flagpolling coming to an end!
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rcincanada2019
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- 03-07-2022
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- 30-03-2022
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- 03-11-2022
I won’t be surprised if there’s another protest regarding this and a demand for the government to take this back as it is causing undue anxiety on temporary residents...
But since it's born out of the `Orange Devil's' fear mongering, as part of `border security'...it may be here for a while.
I, for one, can't understand why no one has told `him' that, unlike crossing the Southern border in the the U.S., where anyone that has made it to Mexico can sneak into the country, it's different here.
A person has to enter Canada via a plane, boat, or swim. The latter being the only way a person is not vetted, in some way, to be eligible to `enter' Canada. At least that screens out a good number of `bad people' before they saunter across an unmanned border into the U.S. to wreak havoc.
Pfft!
Mexico also has far more wide-open visa-free travel than Canada,although I guess now they sort-of have ETA-like? But it makes a big difference - just as one example, it's tens of thousands of Russian asylum seekers alone coming annually via the US border with Mexico. (If any come via Canada, I think that's covered by the safe third-party agreement and they can be sent back to Canada).
*Not picking on Russians for any other reason than I happen to have read the numbers frequently
Agreed.
Anyone coming to Canada has to travel by air, sea or swim if they're obliged to `try'. Only the latter would be a person that is `sneaking into Canada'; the first two would be vetted, to some extent, before being allowed to enter Canada, greatly reducing the chances of a hardened criminal, carrying a bag of Fentanyl into the U.S.
Well, there is the unregulated land border crossing issue, by which I'm including getting across certain areas by boat, etc. Which is a fairly big number, and a fairly big deal.
But much larger in the opposite direction, from Canada into USA, and my understanding is that the cooperation with US law enforcement is very tight. Of course law enforcement on both sides complain about budgets/not enough toys, lack of legal mechanisms they'd like to have, and blame the other guys - at least a bit - but everyone knows it's very tight cooperation.
There are also just logical/legal limits on both sides: we don't have (on other side) large 'border zones' that private citizens are forbidden to enter, and for the most part, you're not breaking a law in Canada if you just happen to be near one (proving 'intent to cross a border illegally' is not so easy, in other words). They try to track the known traffickers and things like that, of course. But at some point, sometimes, they are forced to just follow and provide info to their counterparties across the border, who try and pick them up. Which both sides do pretty efficiently, but we all know 100% isn't possible.
For fentanyl and guns, we know a lot of the problem is just that we have a free trade regime and enormous amounts of trade, and they can't inspect everything. Yep, lately it's gotten worse. (Fentanyl as I understand it - the issue is that on a sheet 'doses per unit of weight' basis is something like 1000X more concentrated than even things like cocaine. Tiny amounts. A zillion times harder to catch than, say, cannabis).
Actually has been a longterm complaint by especially US but also Canadian border forces because it is very time consuming and diverts resources from primary role. There was already tightening of who could flagpole before US election.
Flagpoling requires US resources and they have complaining for a long time about flagpoling. CBSA doesn’t love it either. They are short staffed and want to focus on border security. With new investments in border security announced they will need all their resources for non-immigration issues.
I had a query regarding flagpoling. Recently, both my wife and I got our BOWP and SOWP approved. We received the approval letter on December 31st. Now, is it possible to go to a land border (For example : Niagara border) and flag pole to get the work permit sooner or we have wait till we get it in our mail? I already have a feeling that it's not possible but still looking for your expert opinion. Reason why I'm asking is because we need to renew our health cards and Service Ontario said it can't be done without the original hard copy! Any insight is appreciated. Thanks in advance!
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