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twocantango

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Aug 15, 2014
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Hi,
Can someone help me out? My Daughter was brutally attacked and robbed by a permanent resident from Ireland who has been in Canada for 11 years. She has 2 convictions from 2 separate violent crimes, both charges apply to a max. sentence of 10 years (Assault causing bodily harm and Robbery). Her crimes led to a removal order for
serious criminality, which she appealed, and lost.

According to my research, I was under the impression that those with more than one criminal conviction, equivalent to a max. 10 year sentence, are ineligible to appeal removal orders. Since she has 2 such criminal convictions, how was she able to appeal in the first place? Is it because she has a child?

After her failed appeal from the IRB, she immediately applied to the Federal court for a stay and judicial review. I am guessing she was granted the stay by virtue of having a 2 hour hearing on August 14th-2014. I learned yesterday that the Judge has reserved his decision. As I await yet another decision, I attempted to research other similar cases to compare possible outcomes, with little to no success. What I did learn from my research is that this case is very uncommon since it involves a female who is a 2-time convicted violent offender. Other variables such as being a single parent to a Canadian born child, an Irish national, etc., also contributed to the difficulty in locating similar cases.

In your opinion, what do you think her chances are of actually being deported? I can only hope the federal judge rules to throw her case out, which would end the circus once and for all, but am I correct in thinking that even if the federal judge is able to come up with some obscure error in law, justifying a decision to grant her permission to have another IRB appeal hearing, it's highly unlikely the IRB will reverse their original decision to deport? Particularly in reference to a person with criminal convictions? I am assuming that the federal judge did not rule from the bench, because he is considering "the best interests of the child" Otherwise the law is very clear...2 convictions you're gone. The child's natural Father is Canadian, and "semi" involved in the child's life, but neither parent has any legal arrangements in place addressing child support and/or legal custody. (the 2 of them together couldn't figure out how to fight their way out of a paper bag) If she is actually deported back to Ireland, is she free to take the child out of Canada? Any help answering my questions would be deeply appreciated. Thank you very much
 
Sorry to hear about your daughter's experience.

I highly doubt any of us here will be able to answer your question with any level of accuracy. This sounds like quite a unique case and I'm not surprised you haven't been able to find similar cases. I think any outcome is possible at this point. She may have to leave - or she may be allowed to stay.
 
They don't always deport when they should. I remember seeing a piece on TV about a man who had raped a woman, was about to be deported but claimed that he had an alcohol problem and was going to rehab. A couple of years later, he raped another woman but then he said it would be so much hardship on his mother if he were sent away so he was allowed to stay again.

If she does get deported, she will of course be allowed to take her child with her if the father doesn't want it unless she has been deemed an unfit parent and had her child taken from her already which you don't mention being the case. Canada doesn't make a point of keeping Canadian born children if their parents have to leave. The children belong to the parents unless there is a good reason why they shouldn't.
 
scylla said:
Sorry to hear about your daughter's experience.

I highly doubt any of us here will be able to answer your question with any level of accuracy. This sounds like quite a unique case and I'm not surprised you haven't been able to find similar cases. I think any outcome is possible at this point. She may have to leave - or she may be allowed to stay.

Thank you very much, I know, it's a very unique case. I suppose I should be grateful that by failing her IRB appeal, she is as close to being deported as one could get at this point, and it must certainly suck to be her. I am also happy that the federal judge is actually quite limited by only being able to rule one of 2 ways...either throw it out and send her packing, or allow her to have another IRB appeal... I learned that the IRB very rarely ever reverses their original decision, particularly in the case of a 2-time violent convicted offender. Anyway, I just have to hope for the best, and "let go let g-d".
 
Sorry but her being attacked by an Irish national being relevant escapes me.

In my JR the Federal Court judged that CIC should have to prove that the child will NOT be affected by the removal of a parent, common sense says they will be affected.
If matters come to Family Court, a lawyer from CBSA will be an added party.
Support is irrelevant but by removing a parent they are causing a breach of a Court Order, and a possible de-facto case of Hague Convention.
Yiu need to get a lawyer fast.

My case was an overstay removal order and I am about to land next week so never give up
 
We have just learned that she failed her federal court request for judicial review. The judge ruled to dismiss. There were no certified questions so as I understand it, this is the end of the road for her. As victims of this violent monster, Jamie Leanne Dunne we couldn't be more thrilled with the outcome.
 
https://www.canlii.org/en/ca/fct/doc/2014/2014fc835/2014fc835.html