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Deficient said:
Is he under 35? Perhaps IEC might be an option for him, as it would allow him to work in Canada in the meantime while the spousal sponsorship application was processing, which would get around the problem of him not wanting to be 'a burden' on you financially.

Actually, he is 40 :(

Isometry said:
Hello, gamer buddy! ::highfive::

This is adorable.

There are not a lot of rejections from France, especially since you're genuine and have kept everything, which should make it really easy to show how the relationship developed.

Why not apply for your Portuguese citizenship anyway? That way, if you decide you want to move to France or something ten years down the line, the option's open.

Funny how I got suckered in to gaming by one ex and it killed the relationship and out pops this one out of the blue when I wasn`t expecting it lol I went full-force into gaming after I kicked out my ex to pass the time lol

Oh that's good to hear. I don't want him to get rejected as I looked into my citizenship for Portugal and already I`ve got problems with my mother`s darn documents. She was born in the middle of nowhere and they have like 3 different birth dates for her so before anything that has to get sorted out before I can even start the process for citizenship. She`s looking into it but it's going to take a while. :(
 
gli_babe said:
Oh that's good to hear. I don't want him to get rejected ...

Sounds like you have a lot of proof so that shouldn't be an issue - it's more a matter of time to pull everything together and time to then hear back.

I would suggest you start the tedious process of putting it all together and scanning it or photocopying it for your own records and start completing the forms so you see what info you'll need.
 
I'm a bit confused with what fees we will have to pay when we submit all of our paperwork? Can someone clear my confusion? I`m looking at a list of fees n the Citizenship and Immigration site but I`m lost. I`m trying to gather all of the fees we have to pay since we are doing this 50/50 :)

Also, his medical exam. This is something he has to do before he leaves France?
 
gli_babe said:
I'm a bit confused with what fees we will have to pay when we submit all of our paperwork? Can someone clear my confusion? I`m looking at a list of fees n the Citizenship and Immigration site but I`m lost. I`m trying to gather all of the fees we have to pay since we are doing this 50/50 :)

Also, his medical exam. This is something he has to do before he leaves France?

Grand total for fees is 1040 :)

As for the medical exam, it should go with the application. It can be done in Canada if needed, call around and ask for prices as they can be kind of high.
 
parker24 said:
Grand total for fees is 1040 :)

As for the medical exam, it should go with the application. It can be done in Canada if needed, call around and ask for prices as they can be kind of high.

Ugh....what is kind of high? :( Just trying to get an idea. I got the list of where it can be done in France and in Montreal where I am. We will both be calling around then :)
 
Medical should be about CAD$200-400. We did ours in China and it cost CAD$240.

FS
 
Interesting :) We did ours in Tbilisi, Georgia, and it was also $240. Seems to be the global ballpark!
 
I just let him know...he said he'd like to do it over there before we submit our paperwork but I checked the list of doctors in France and there are none that are anywhere near where he lives..ugh! Guess he might have to do it here. I will call around and see :)
 
gli_babe said:
OhCanadiana, honestly, I'll give you some background, I'm an online gamer

Yep, lots of us gamers around :D My scenario was very similar. We met gaming, eventually talked more and more. Then love, visits, and a Vegas wedding :D

I'm from the states and not a 'skilled worker' and my husband and I applied outland, because we couldn't afford for me to 'visit' without a job in Canada for a prolonged period of time. (He has 2 kids, I have some debt). It was tough but we just continued flying back and forth as often as we could. We'd been doing it a year already so we figured we could keep toughing it out. When we finally couldn't take it anymore, and we figured we only had a few months left in the process, I left my job and came up to visit while we continued to wait for my PPR.
 
podkayne8 said:
Yep, lots of us gamers around :D My scenario was very similar. We met gaming, eventually talked more and more. Then love, visits, and a Vegas wedding :D

I'm from the states and not a 'skilled worker' and my husband and I applied outland, because we couldn't afford for me to 'visit' without a job in Canada for a prolonged period of time. (He has 2 kids, I have some debt). It was tough but we just continued flying back and forth as often as we could. We'd been doing it a year already so we figured we could keep toughing it out. When we finally couldn't take it anymore, and we figured we only had a few months left in the process, I left my job and came up to visit while we continued to wait for my PPR.

Well this has been going on for too long lol Neither of us can take it anymore so he`s coming back in a couple of months and we're getting married. I would have moved there ages ago but I've got debts courtesy of a dead-beat ex :( Funny how it all starts up huh? Gaming buddy, then you group up way too often for your own good and spend hours talking and playing, next thing you know web-cam all the time lol Eh, it`s ok, this time I found the real thing and I totally was not looking for it :P Oh ya sure, hey let me log-in to Everquest 2 and hit on all the guys. AS IF lol
 
You have more options than me since your significant other is established, but let me tel you what me and my fiancee are doing:

First off, we are both gamers also. We met playing Warcraft/Diablo about 7 years ago, and have been together for 3. He is originally from Matane, QC and I am from Illinois, USA. I am currently 18, and he is 24. I was also very reluctant to enter this relationship not because of the age difference, but because of the distance. However, I'm very glad that I did. He is the best thing that has ever happened to me.

Now, moving on!

Our original plan was for me to attend school in Montreal and have status through a student visa, but because of outrageous international student fees, lack of work permit, and health insurance issues we've decided that we are going to get married and approach status through a PR sponsorship which I will apply for outland.. We were planning on getting married in the future, we've just bumped it up a few years. :p. I have no professional work background because I do not have a college degree (although, I've held down the same job for 7 years and work 30 hours a week I still don't quality for a 'workers class', especially in QC)', and am still planning on attending school in Montreal once PR is approved.

In July we will be getting married, and in August we will be applying for PR. I purchased a round-trip ticket for July/August months ago, but will be canceling my return flight once I cross the border. The plan is for me to stay in Canada with my visitor's visa, and if PR is not accepted by the time it expires I will simply apply for an extension. I'm lucky in the fact that my fiancee can afford to support the both of us while I am unable to work. However, I know that is not the case for everyone. You do not have to stay in Canada while your PR is being processed if you apply outland.

From the little that I've read in this thread, I think that a spousal sponsorship would be the way to go if you guys are willing to make the commitment of marriage because you love each other, not just because of PR. I'm sure that you significant other could potentially get a Skilled Worker's visa based on his skills, but keep in mind that there would still be insurance issues among other things. It wouldn't be at reliable as a Permanent Residency would be. Lucky for you, Quebec really loves to accept France Citizens into the province because it perseveres the french language.

I have a large amount of information regarding the whole process of applying/sponsoring someone in Quebec, and here are some links:

To get married, you must first fill out a questionnaire (http://www.justice.gouv.qc.ca/english/formulaires/mariage/mariage-c-a.htm) and gather both of your birth certificates. For me and my fiancee, I filled it out, printed it, signed it, and then mailed it to him with my birth certificate. In Montreal, all you have to do is bring the documents to the courthouse along with a witness and two forms of I.D. to get begin the marriage process. Your future spouse doesn't even have to be there, just you and your witness! We had to pay the fees right upfront, and that was $295.

As far as sponsorship goes, here are some great lists/links that you should look at:

The Sponsor's guide: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/guides/3900ETOC.asp#3900E4
This is guide provides all of the information the sponsor needs. I've found it much more helpful than the Immigrant's guide, even though I am the immigrant.

The Sponsor's checklist: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/forms/IMM5491E.pdf
The checklist of documents/Information the sponsor needs to provide.

The Immigrant's guide: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/guides/3999Etoc.asp
This guide provides the information that the Immigrant needs, but I suggest the immigrant read the sponsor's guide as well.

The Immigrant's checklist: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/guides/3901e.pdf
The checklist of documents that the immigrant will need. I gave you the one for France specifically.

Quebec Sponsorship info: http://www.immigration-quebec.gouv.qc.ca/en/immigrate-settle/sponsors-sponsored/apply/sponsorship-application.html
If you plan on living in Quebec, an extra step is added to the process. Here is the information regarding that. You will start dealing with Quebec AFTER your sponsorship is approved by the CIC.

Quebec Undertaking Ap info: http://www.immigration-quebec.gouv.qc.ca/en/immigrate-settle/sponsors-sponsored/apply/undertaking-application/index.html
You will need Kit A.

The fees for sponsoring someone break down like this...

Documents Costs:
Background Check: (You'll have to check online, but I would assume it would be about $30)
Immigration Photos: roughly $20
Medical Exam: $200 (this is the cheapest I could find in Montreal. If you want the doctor(s) names, let me know!)
Total: $250

Application Costs:
Sponsorship Application: $75
Immigration/Principal Application: $475
Acquisition of Permanent Residency: $490 (you don't' have to pay this right away, but it is suggested to avoid delay. If PR get denied, this will be refunded)
Quebec Undertaking Fee: $260 (You don't pay this until you submit the Undertaking Application to Quebec)
Total: $1300, but you're only required to pay $550 up front.

Grand Total Estimate: $1550

What each of you would have to pay: $775

I am getting my immigration/medical photos done at Jean Coutu for $20, and will be getting my medical done near Outremont for $200, which is the cheapest I could find.
 
Hnhkrk said:
You have more options than me since your significant other is established, but let me tel you what me and my fiancee are doing:

First off, we are both gamers also. We met playing Warcraft/Diablo about 7 years ago, and have been together for 3. He is originally from Matane, QC and I am from Illinois, USA. I am currently 18, and he is 24. I was also very reluctant to enter this relationship not because of the age difference, but because of the distance. However, I'm very glad that I did. He is the best thing that has ever happened to me.

Now, moving on!

Our original plan was for me to attend school in Montreal and have status through a student visa, but because of outrageous international student fees, lack of work permit, and health insurance issues we've decided that we are going to get married and approach status through a PR sponsorship which I will apply for outland.. We were planning on getting married in the future, we've just bumped it up a few years. :p. I have no professional work background because I do not have a college degree (although, I've held down the same job for 7 years and work 30 hours a week I still don't quality for a 'workers class', especially in QC)', and am still planning on attending school in Montreal once PR is approved.

In July we will be getting married, and in August we will be applying for PR. I purchased a round-trip ticket for July/August months ago, but will be canceling my return flight once I cross the border. The plan is for me to stay in Canada with my visitor's visa, and if PR is not accepted by the time it expires I will simply apply for an extension. I'm lucky in the fact that my fiancee can afford to support the both of us while I am unable to work. However, I know that is not the case for everyone. You do not have to stay in Canada while your PR is being processed if you apply outland.

From the little that I've read in this thread, I think that a spousal sponsorship would be the way to go if you guys are willing to make the commitment of marriage because you love each other, not just because of PR. I'm sure that you significant other could potentially get a Skilled Worker's visa based on his skills, but keep in mind that there would still be insurance issues among other things. It wouldn't be at reliable as a Permanent Residency would be. Lucky for you, Quebec really loves to accept France Citizens into the province because it perseveres the french language.

I have a large amount of information regarding the whole process of applying/sponsoring someone in Quebec, and here are some links:

To get married, you must first fill out a questionnaire (http://www.justice.gouv.qc.ca/english/formulaires/mariage/mariage-c-a.htm) and gather both of your birth certificates. For me and my fiancee, I filled it out, printed it, signed it, and then mailed it to him with my birth certificate. In Montreal, all you have to do is bring the documents to the courthouse along with a witness and two forms of I.D. to get begin the marriage process. Your future spouse doesn't even have to be there, just you and your witness! We had to pay the fees right upfront, and that was $295.

As far as sponsorship goes, here are some great lists/links that you should look at:

The Sponsor's guide: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/guides/3900ETOC.asp#3900E4
This is guide provides all of the information the sponsor needs. I've found it much more helpful than the Immigrant's guide, even though I am the immigrant.

The Sponsor's checklist: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/forms/IMM5491E.pdf
The checklist of documents/Information the sponsor needs to provide.

The Immigrant's guide: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/guides/3999Etoc.asp
This guide provides the information that the Immigrant needs, but I suggest the immigrant read the sponsor's guide as well.

The Immigrant's checklist: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/guides/3901e.pdf
The checklist of documents that the immigrant will need. I gave you the one for France specifically.

Quebec Sponsorship info: http://www.immigration-quebec.gouv.qc.ca/en/immigrate-settle/sponsors-sponsored/apply/sponsorship-application.html
If you plan on living in Quebec, an extra step is added to the process. Here is the information regarding that. You will start dealing with Quebec AFTER your sponsorship is approved by the CIC.

Quebec Undertaking Ap info: http://www.immigration-quebec.gouv.qc.ca/en/immigrate-settle/sponsors-sponsored/apply/undertaking-application/index.html
You will need Kit A.

The fees for sponsoring someone break down like this...

Documents Costs:
Background Check: (You'll have to check online, but I would assume it would be about $30)
Immigration Photos: roughly $20
Medical Exam: $200 (this is the cheapest I could find in Montreal. If you want the doctor(s) names, let me know!)
Total: $250

Application Costs:
Sponsorship Application: $75
Immigration/Principal Application: $475
Acquisition of Permanent Residency: $490 (you don't' have to pay this right away, but it is suggested to avoid delay. If PR get denied, this will be refunded)
Quebec Undertaking Fee: $260 (You don't pay this until you submit the Undertaking Application to Quebec)
Total: $1300, but you're only required to pay $550 up front.

Grand Total Estimate: $1550

What each of you would have to pay: $775

I am getting my immigration/medical photos done at Jean Coutu for $20, and will be getting my medical done near Outremont for $200, which is the cheapest I could find.

Wow this is awesome info :) Thank you!!!!! Actually, he is purchasing a round trip ticket too and just not going back. The whole reason why he hasn`t come yet is because he is setting aside enough money to pay for his stuff and keep him going until he can legally work. He should be here August/September and we've decided to get married as soon as possible afterwords and submit the PR stuff. Now we aren`t getting married for sponsorship. He asked me to marry him on his last visit her before we even discussed what we were going to do :)

Now, I know we have to submit all sorts of proof and stuff which I have tons of stuff gathered. Game chat logs, msn stuff, e-mails and who knows what else. I`ve got a huge file on my pc with stuff. I want to include phone bills and such but do I have to print out the whole bill just for 1 of the pages? Or can I just print let`s say the 1st page of the bill and the page with the calls?

GAMERS ROCK! At least I found someone who won`t complain that I`m on my pc all the time as he will be right next to me grouped up lol
 
gli_babe said:
He should be here August/September and we've decided to get married as soon as possible afterwords and submit the PR stuff. Now we aren`t getting married for sponsorship.

Now, I know we have to submit all sorts of proof and stuff which I have tons of stuff gathered. Game chat logs, msn stuff, e-mails and who knows what else. I`ve got a huge file on my pc with stuff. I want to include phone bills and such but do I have to print out the whole bill just for 1 of the pages? Or can I just print let`s say the 1st page of the bill and the page with the calls?

GAMERS ROCK! At least I found someone who won`t complain that I`m on my pc all the time as he will be right next to me grouped up lol

Hahaha! I wrote down all of the information for you because I knew my situation and experience could aid you a lot. When I started asking questions, I was scrambling all over for answers on various subjects. It's taken me about a month to finally understand the process enough to be willing to send an application at all. I'm sure you'll have other questions, I just wanted to tell you everything that I knew. :).

If he's going to be there within the next 3 months I suggest dropping off the necessary documents for marriage ASAP since it takes 2 months from them to actually have the ceremony. I'm not sure of this, but it can take up to 3 more months to actually get the marriage certificate. Luckily, you CAN send in your application without it... as long as you send in a letter explaining why you don't have it. Actually, you should send in a letter explaining why you don't have any certain document in your application, even if it doesn't apply to you (such as, option C)

When it comes to proof, I'm going to take SCREENSHOTS of all of the dates of our chatlogs because there are simply to many (2006 - Now!) and I don't really want to include the text from all of them because some of it is very 'personal'. However, I might screen shot the length of some of our calls and various screenshots I've taken of him on skype and such. I'm going to include some e-mails and facebook messages along with pictures that I will paste to a word document and print it with the dates and such. I'll also be submitting around 20/30 letters from people who will write various statements saying that our relationship is genuine. I'll probably include photo copies of the letters I've sent him throughout the years, and odd things like the fun park tickets, to-do/grocery lists, and anything else I can come with.... and this will be on top of the joint bank statements, travel logs, and other 'formal' typed of proof.

Oh, and don't stress over this whole PR process. It really isn't worth it. Stay as informed and educated about the whole process, triple check everything, and don't freak out over the little details. I haven't even started my application yet (although, I've started gathering the info) and I've caught myself panicking over everything.... it's just not cool, man.
 
Well I was thinking of screen shots of chat logs but actually providing maybe some random ones. I agree some stuff is wicked personal and they really don't need to know truly private details but perhaps some samples of conversations so that they see. Hmm...the in-game ones should be less private lol but man the game logs are freaking horrible. Every damage point has a line, every buff has a line and then you`ve got the chat messages mixed in with freaking everything. I do have some time to go through them since I am on a wicked budget til he gets here to save up some extra cash so I won`t be going out much lol I`ll have time to sort through all that stuff :)