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I was just sitting here thinking about my own plans on the matter, and I was wondering what you guys think. Are you/your partner planning to apply for Canadian Citizenship when you are eligible? Why or why not?
 
My partner has been in Canada for over 3 years now but won't be getting his citizenship. Germany won't allow him dual so he doesn't want to give up his EU passport.

If he could he would but he can't ;)
 
I guess it's a different decision if you aren't allowed dual citizenship. If I had to pick between citizenship in my home country and Canada, I might be inclined to keep my home citizenship just out of sentimentality. An EU passport is a good reason, though. :)
 
Most certainly. We want to share a citizenship before travelling the world so that, in the event of needing consular assistance, we can go to the same embassy/consulate.
 
If he was American or another nationality that allowed dual then he would 100% but in the event that we may want to move to Europe in the furture, its always nice to also have that option.
 
I'm really not sure. After getting into an argument with a friend (his fiance's American and a PR now) about whether or not Americans can even have dual citizenship, the topic still has me in an "eh" mindset. (He swore uphill and down that it wasn't possible, despite my referencing US government websites stating the contrary. This after also saying they never had to provide any proof relationship aside from statutory declarations--common law. I'm assuming his fiance was the one who did the paperwork...)

I think the bottomline for me--a US citizen who hasn't actually lived in the States since I was a kid--would be trying to figure out how much sense it really would make for me in the end. We don't really have any plans to travel extensively; it's likely that the only traveling we'd be doing would be to the States to visit the odd friend or, perhaps, my currently estranged family down there.

The main thing that has me hesitant is this: http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1753.html and http://travel.state.gov/law/citizenship/citizenship_778.html. Evidently, if a US citizen voluntarily applies for citizenship in another country, there's a chance the US can revoke their citizenship. This is ONLY in cases where the US believes the person has shown intent of renouncing their US citizenship. However, they mention that mere conduct can make them come to this conclusion, and with my not having been to the States in several years... it does make me wonder if applying for Canadian citizenship might demonstrate to them that I somehow don't care all that much about my US citizenship (definitely not true). I doubt that it would matter but, without knowing more, I'm not sure I'd want to risk it just to have another citizenship under my belt. Their points about owing allegiance to both countries of citizenship are also valid.
 
There are loads of US citizens who have dual citizenship. One of the obligations of a US citizen is filing taxes in the US, whether you live there or not.
 
Leon said:
There are loads of US citizens who have dual citizenship. One of the obligations of a US citizen is filing taxes in the US, whether you live there or not.

Well, yes. That's a given.
 
Rinnerz said:
I'm really not sure. After getting into an argument with a friend (his fiance's American and a PR now) about whether or not Americans can even have dual citizenship, the topic still has me in an "eh" mindset. (He swore uphill and down that it wasn't possible, despite my referencing US government websites stating the contrary. This after also saying they never had to provide any proof relationship aside from statutory declarations--common law. I'm assuming his fiance was the one who did the paperwork...)

I think the bottomline for me--a US citizen who hasn't actually lived in the States since I was a kid--would be trying to figure out how much sense it really would make for me in the end. We don't really have any plans to travel extensively; it's likely that the only traveling we'd be doing would be to the States to visit the odd friend or, perhaps, my currently estranged family down there.

The main thing that has me hesitant is this: http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1753.html and http://travel.state.gov/law/citizenship/citizenship_778.html. Evidently, if a US citizen voluntarily applies for citizenship in another country, there's a chance the US can revoke their citizenship. This is ONLY in cases where the US believes the person has shown intent of renouncing their US citizenship. However, they mention that mere conduct can make them come to this conclusion, and with my not having been to the States in several years... it does make me wonder if applying for Canadian citizenship might demonstrate to them that I somehow don't care all that much about my US citizenship (definitely not true). I doubt that it would matter but, without knowing more, I'm not sure I'd want to risk it just to have another citizenship under my belt. Their points about owing allegiance to both countries of citizenship are also valid.

I know of several American/Canadian dual citizens. The US system USED TO be against it -- even requiring renunciation of foreign citizenships in order to get US citizenship. They, theoretically, still do in that you have to declare allegiance to the US flag, above all others.

There were a number of people that lost Canadian citizenship during this time, but eventually it was restored when it was revealed that it was given up under duress.

I believe if you sought Cuban citizenship, the US might invalidate your US citizenship. That's a pretty clear intent that you don't believe in the American Way.

On the other hand, dual Canadian and American: it's really like holding residence in both Washington and Florida -- just with the 51st state instead. :)
 
doctorkb said:
I know of several American/Canadian dual citizens. The US system USED TO be against it -- even requiring renunciation of foreign citizenships in order to get US citizenship. They, theoretically, still do in that you have to declare allegiance to the US flag, above all others.
I figured this was why that friend of ours tried to pan my argument so adamantly, but it still was frustrating given that I had already done some reading on it and he didn't want to hear it.

doctorkb said:
On the other hand, dual Canadian and American: it's really like holding residence in both Washington and Florida -- just with the 51st state instead. :)
Haha, yes. I think it's a decision I'll be making once I'm actually closer to being eligible *fingers crossed on that*. I know that when I mentioned it to my dad, he thought it was the best thing in the world and thinks I should definitely try for it, so. I guess we'll see.
 
I am not sure right now but I feel I would like to take up dual citizenship. It would be nice to not have to worry about only staying away from Canada for so long and risk losing my status. And no need to renew your citizenship versus permanent residence status. The only thing I hate about it is knowing I may not go home for another year or two in order to be able to apply sooner because the whole "days counting towards citizenship while outside of Canada" is quite confusing to me and seems too much of a hassle. I would rather get applying for citizenship out of the way sooner and I know that the time I have lived in Canada now can count towards days (half days) towards applying for citizenship. I would really hate to travel home now after getting PR, go to apply for citizenship in a year or two, and only to find out I need to wait another 2-3 years to qualify to apply again because I didn't the first time. Eeek...

I don't think there is a doubt in my mind that I want to apply (as long as it wouldn't take away my US citizenship) for citizenship. It is just more of a matter of applying sooner rather than later.
 
My brother immigrated to the US and got US citizenship more than 20 years ago. They did not make him give up the original one.
 
Love_Young said:
And no need to renew your citizenship versus permanent residence status.

Not to derail the thread, but I was under the impression that the only thing you have to renew is the PR card itself (every 5 years), not your actual PR status. Your point's still valid, though.
 
Correct its just the card that expires don't worry :) Could you imagine having to go through this crazy process every 5 years LOL. No way!
 
kelKel said:
Correct its just the card that expires don't worry :) Could you imagine having to go through this crazy process every 5 years LOL. No way!

Haha, I'm not sure we should even joke about that *cringe*...