CIC point system's mistake of 600 points.

[delorean]

CIC point system's mistake of 600 points. I heard of this issue. Is that correct?
If it's true, my application will be rejected. And my points recalculated are going down. It's gonna be hard to be chosen.

Unfortunately, I am not permanent contract ,but I have an experience over 1 year with one company in total. I have another experience with another company for 6 months.

Do we need continuing over 1 year contract with one company, or in total?

 

[lotusEsp]

The 600 points are for either a PN or arranged employment - not your canadian experience

But I have heard of someone having their 600 points removed because their offer of employment was a temporary contract.

 

[jes_ON]

regardless of your current contract, you need a written OFFER of permanent employment (no end date) upon obtaining PR status (Unless you are working in a skilled trade, then you need an offer of at least 1 year).

Unfortunately, for those of us working in occupations where term renewable contracts are the norm, that makes "arranged employment" almost unobtainable.

(I say "almost" because a few years ago, when I was looking at the Ontario PNP program as an option, their criteria also included "permanent" employment. My employer contacted them, explained that all staff where I worked were on contracts that are renewed annually, and the program told them they'd consider the application on a case-by-case basis. My employer's application was approved by the PNP, but by then my CEC application was moving forward...).

I can't tell you whether there's any flexibility on this point with EE or not.

 

[sealy]

I am in the same boat. I initially received an ITA and then an email from CIC saying that they are taking away the 600 points and my ITA because my offer is not permanent. I was totally shocked by this since everything written on the website says that the offer only has to be valid for at least one year. I wrote to CIC asking about this, and was told that the offer only has to be valid for one year, but whichever agent responded to me did not add the 600 points back to me. I had to send another email and have not heard from them yet.

Anyone having same experience in this regard? To me requiring the offer to be permanent is really dumb. There are many occupations that only give renewable contracts and my job is probably more stable than 99% of the people getting permanent offers.

 

[hulahoop]

Is this a FSW thing or a CEC thing or both?

 

[cindy2006]

CIC point system's mistake of 600 points. I heard of this issue. Is that correct?
If it's true, my application will be rejected. And my points recalculated are going down. It's gonna be hard to be chosen.

Unfortunately, I am not permanent contract ,but I have an experience over 1 year with one company in total. I have another experience with another company for 6 months.

Do we need continuing over 1 year contract with one company, or in total?

Don't want to scare you. You might be considered "misrepresentation ", which will be a much more serious issue than a rejected application.

 

[hulahoop]

Don't want to scare you. You might be considered "misrepresentation ", which will be a much more serious issue than a rejected application.

True, s/he should really call the helpline to officially notify. It might all be fine but it'll avoid the specter of misrepresentation.

 

[mf4361]

There is a decision called "Rejected" between "PR Granted" and "Misrepresentation", its not one or the other. This means application is rejected, no further investigations.

The EE questionnaire asks if you have LMIA, which you have, you answered yes and provided document number. It didn't ask if the LMIA is for a permanent job. You haven't misrepresented yourself here.

So don't freak out just yet.

You will eventually be rejected, because you don't have permanent offer. But because you haven't deliberately use forged documents and made false claims, CIC may decide not to launch investigation over you.

Just to be sure, you should phone CIC agent and make sure it is rectified.

 

[frenchie74]

The only relevant question is whether or not you have a LMIA for the job offer that must be at least for 1 year. It is a requirement of validity to their definition of 'arranged employment' to obtain the extra 600 points. If you don't have it, they automatically reject your application like they did, and they very well may consider you misrepresented yourself, in which case you may be banned from the applying in the future.

 

[cindy2006]

There is a decision called "Rejected" between "PR Granted" and "Misrepresentation", its not one or the other. This means application is rejected, no further investigations.

The EE questionnaire asks if you have LMIA, which you have, you answered yes and provided document number. It didn't ask if the LMIA is for a permanent job. You haven't misrepresented yourself here.

So don't freak out just yet.

You will eventually be rejected, because you don't have permanent offer. But because you haven't deliberately use forged documents and made false claims, CIC may decide not to launch investigation over you.

Just to be sure, you should phone CIC agent and make sure it is rectified.

There is a question on whether the job is permanent, full-time, and non-seasonal before asking Lima. I think the best way is to retrieve the application before it is checked by Cic.

 

[delorean]

There is a decision called "Rejected" between "PR Granted" and "Misrepresentation", its not one or the other. This means application is rejected, no further investigations.

The EE questionnaire asks if you have LMIA, which you have, you answered yes and provided document number. It didn't ask if the LMIA is for a permanent job. You haven't misrepresented yourself here.

So don't freak out just yet.

You will eventually be rejected, because you don't have permanent offer. But because you haven't deliberately use forged documents and made false claims, CIC may decide not to launch investigation over you.

Just to be sure, you should phone CIC agent and make sure it is rectified.

Really? It's so serious issue?

I didn't no that CIC web site had error at the time when I did entry.

I actually have worked at two companies for now since I came here in Canada. And then, I have offered from one of two companies over 1 year contract in total. Fist contract was 7 months, and second contract was 6 months. It would be 13 months in total. Besides, the company is going to offer me 9 month contract from this August. It would be 22 months in total. Off course, it's full time job.

Should I cancel my application which has been already sent to CIC?

 

[cindy2006]

Your job has to be permanent in order to get the extra 600. Call cic first thing on Monday.

 

[mf4361]

Really? It's so serious issue?

I didn't no that CIC web site had error at the time when I did entry.

I actually have worked at two companies for now since I came here in Canada. And then, I have offered from one of two companies over 1 year contract in total. Fist contract was 7 months, and second contract was 6 months. It would be 13 months in total. Besides, the company is going to offer me 9 month contract from this August. It would be 22 months in total. Off course, it's full time job.

Should I cancel my application which has been already sent to CIC?

Are you applying in CEC? CEC allows cumulative experiences, meaning you can combine experiences from 2 jobs of less than 1 year to become 1 year total. (Or part-times of a longer period) So if I understand you, you have worked previously in Canada for 7 months, than another job for 6 months. In that case, you can combine the two and be eligible in CEC.

The question being asked in this thread was the LMIA applied by OP was for a contract term job, not permanent (indeterminate). To fetch the 600 points in CRS, one must have an LMIA for a full-time, permanent term job.

 

[delorean]

Are you applying in CEC? CEC allows cumulative experiences, meaning you can combine experiences from 2 jobs of less than 1 year to become 1 year total. (Or part-times of a longer period) So if I understand you, you have worked previously in Canada for 7 months, than another job for 6 months. In that case, you can combine the two and be eligible in CEC.

The question being asked in this thread was the LMIA applied by OP was for a contract term job, not permanent (indeterminate). To fetch the 600 points in CRS, one must have an LMIA for a full-time, permanent term job.

Yes, I'm applying in CEC. When I answered questionnaire for Express Entry, I wasn't asked the question about permanent, full-time and non seasonal at the time.