Child Permanent Residency

[zjalloul]

Hello all,

I would like to share with you members my case and interactions would be much appreciated.

I become PR (along with my spouse and 1 year old child) in 2006 and applied for Citizenship in 2009 where i completed the test and asked afterwards to provide documents which i did, and in 2011 we had a new baby born in Canada and at the same time we renewed our PR cards till 2015 (me, wife and other child).

However during our return to Canada in 2012 (my wife and I, our children stayed with their Grandmother in the mother country) i was interviewed by an officer at the airport and he decided to revoke our PR Status and gave us a notice of 30 days to appeal his decision (we didn't make that appeal and left for good).

My question is : is my child who became PR in the same date (i.e.:Year 2006) has the right to reclaim his PR status at the age of 18 years old, and what about his current PR Status (card valid till 2015) did he lost it as we did?

Many thanks in advance

 

[Alurra71]

Wait, so you never got your citizenship granted then?

Your story is thoroughly confusing and makes absolutely no sense to me.

If you applied for citizenship either you were granted or denied but you must've received a response, and in which case, why would you NOT appeal them trying to revoke your PR status since you were only waiting to get your citizenship grant taken care of?

 

[zjalloul]

Sorry for not mentioning earlier the following:I was supposed to go for a hearing with a Citizenship Judge and at the time of the interview at the airport the immigration officer told me that the hearing with the Judge is cancelled and eventually of course the Citizenship application was turned down.

There are so many reasons why i haven't appeal their decision (Personal and Financial) but my question here what will happen to my Child Permanent Resident Status?

 

[keesio]

I believe your child is still a PR, one that is in breach of residency, but still a PR. You don't lose PR unless CIC strips you of it.

 

[zardoz]

I think that it's possible the child had it revoked at the same time as the parents, as there would be no reason for the IO to specifically exclude the child from the process.

However, It's possible that either applying for a PRTD (http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/travel.asp) or a VOS (http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/certcopy.asp) would clarify matters.

If the child did have the PR status revoked, then it would not be possible to "reclaim" it.

 

[Leon]

Wait until the PR child turns 18. If he or she at that point is interested in trying to revive the PR, they should apply for a travel document based on having been removed from Canada as a minor. If they get it, they can return to Canada and revive their PR. Of course they would have to meet the RO in the future. If their PR was already revoked same time as yours were, the travel document will be refused based on that the PR was already lost.

There would be no point in applying for a travel document if the child is not at that point interested in living in Canada. Even if they get it, if they don't use it or if they use it to go to Canada and then leave again and don't care to meet the RO, then they might as well skip the whole thing.

 

[zjalloul]

Thank a lot to all who shared their opinions and expertise in that matter.

However for info ... Please note that my child didn't receive any documents related to his PR status (Only me and my wife had their PR Status revoked) so i guess from what have been written above that my child will still have the chance to reclaim at the age of 18 years old.

I won't let him go through the process unless he's 100 % sure that he wants to live there.

Again thank you

 

[Msafiri]

Thank a lot to all who shared their opinions and expertise in that matter.

However for info ... Please note that my child didn't receive any documents related to his PR status (Only me and my wife had their PR Status revoked) so i guess from what have been written above that my child will still have the chance to reclaim at the age of 18 years old.

I won't let him go through the process unless he's 100 % sure that he wants to live there.

Again thank you,

Your minor child's PR is intact as he was not travelling with you. Your Canadian born son is a citizen with the unqualified right of entry at all times so he can return when older. He/she may sponsor you too upon reaching the age of majority depending on the immigration law and requirements in future. You can also re-apply for PR at any time in the relevant stream. Hope things work out for you in the end.

Are you ok to detail your POE experience...there are many PRs on this forum taking their chance with the Residence Obligation as you did and they all ask how the reporting occurs. Which airport, did you use automated gates, were you sent to Secondary Inspection immediately, what were you asked, did you admit to the breach or CIC had your dates on file, were you issued departure orders right away.

 

[zjalloul]

I don't mind at all to share what happened to me on that day.

1) we used the counter to check in at Montreal (we were asked to imm office directly next to the check in booth)
2) we waited like 30 minutes then the Imm. officer started asking us questions which went further and further and it wasn't a pleasant interview at all and to tell the truth the treatment we had at the airport was one of the main reason that we have decided to leave Canada for good) We came from a third country as they say but we never had such an unpleasant treatment from any official the way we have been treated that day.
3) then all our staff were checked and even they took our mobile phone (but they didn't find anything at all)
4)they started to intimidate us about we might go to Jail and something like that and my wife had a breakdown (and medical treatment were provided on site)
5) then they made a conclusion that i might not (and i insist i might not) been in Canada the whole time (actually they used the word probably)
6)they issued a letter showing that we should leave Canada in the next 14 days or file an appeal ( Again i didn't file an appeal after what we have been through that day and there was some financial and financial reason as well)
7)we kept our PR cards with us and when we left few days later and an Imm officer met us and explained that we should file an appeal since they weren't sure about our residency
8) we left for good since 2012
9)END OF STORY

 

[Quebec resident]

Hi Zjlloul
I guess , they did have right to tell you that you may go to jail , all they can do ( and they did ) is to revok your permanent resident status.
you should be more strict with them too, they try to hemuliate people in order to push them to recognise that they were not living in canada, and that they do not respect their RO
good luck,