certificates

[Remrov]

Hello everybody,

I was wondering....

I understand that I have to send copies of my high school diploma's, etc with my apllication?
I have to get them translated by a notary since they are in Dutch?

And then....I have 9 certficates, no diploma, only 9 certificates from a post secondary education, the Graphical Designers School.
Is it important that I send copies of them also?
And do these copies have to be certified then?
And translated also?

I'm not sure about this. It's going to cost a lot extra only for those 9 certificates. Is it neccesary to send them also with the application?

 

[Sweden]

Hey remrov,

I am not sure that you need to include any certificate from studies - I definitely didn't, maybe I missed something in the application guideline? I have read it over and over again, but you never know! can you tell me where you got the information from ? I put the number of years of studying in my application, but didn't document it, as I didn't see it written anywhere...

thanks for your answer,
Sweden

 

[Remrov]

Well, I don't see it anywhere either actually.

Maybe it's not neccesary at all, and it was just my own idea.
I thought that I had to because I also had to say in certain question if I recieved a diploma or certificates for studies. But if it's not neccesary.....that would be a lot better.

 

[Sweden]

I can never be sure - as I am not immigration officer, but I don't think it is necessary, as it doesn't really make a difference as we apply in the family category, and not in the skilled worker.

I think CIC wants to know about the applicant background to see if there is a big difference of education background in the couple, but I don't think it really applies to you. From what I read from other posts, it can be a red flag if one partner is from a very high education background, and the other ones has only basic schooling (high school only, or not even that).

from what I can see from your first post, it is not your case, as you have a post secondary education, high school diploma etc, so I don't think you have to prove anything.

For sure I didn't send anything, I listed my years of education, and I think that if London has some doubts when they examine your case and they want to know more about what you did, then they can ask - but if it is not necessary you might as well save the extra money.

Good luck with putting everything together, it looks like you are almost done!
Sweden

 

[Remrov]

Thank you for all your info!!

 

[parker24]

Hello everybody,

I was wondering....

I understand that I have to send copies of my high school diploma's, etc with my apllication?
I have to get them translated by a notary since they are in Dutch?

And then....I have 9 certficates, no diploma, only 9 certificates from a post secondary education, the Graphical Designers School.
Is it important that I send copies of them also?
And do these copies have to be certified then?
And translated also?

I'm not sure about this. It's going to cost a lot extra only for those 9 certificates. Is it neccesary to send them also with the application?

You don't need these, just say you went to school for such and such and got this degree then at this time etc.

 

[Remrov]

Okay, thanks very much!

 

[greenoil]

FYI, from CIC:
Translation of documents

Any document that is not in English or French must be accompanied by:

the English or French translation; and
an affidavit from the person who completed the translation; and
a certified copy of the original document.

Certified true copies

To have a photocopy of a document certified, an authorized person must compare the original document to the photocopy and must print the following on the photocopy:

“I certify that this is a true copy of the original document”,
the name of the original document,
the date of the certification,
his or her name,
his or her official position or title, and
his or her signature.

Link is here:
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/guides/3900ETOC.asp

 

[parker24]

FYI, from CIC:
Translation of documents

Any document that is not in English or French must be accompanied by:

the English or French translation; and
an affidavit from the person who completed the translation; and
a certified copy of the original document.

Certified true copies

To have a photocopy of a document certified, an authorized person must compare the original document to the photocopy and must print the following on the photocopy:

“I certify that this is a true copy of the original document”,
the name of the original document,
the date of the certification,
his or her name,
his or her official position or title, and
his or her signature.

Link is here:
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/guides/3900ETOC.asp

This is for BIRTH and MARRIAGE certificates.

 

[greenoil]

CIC specifically says:
Any document that is not in English or French must be accompanied by:

the English or French translation; and
an affidavit from the person who completed the translation; and
a certified copy of the original document.

So to be sure, I would follow their instructions. By doing this, CIC would accept the documents authentic.

 

[parker24]

CIC specifically says:
Any document that is not in English or French must be accompanied by:

the English or French translation; and
an affidavit from the person who completed the translation; and
a certified copy of the original document.

So to be sure, I would follow their instructions. By doing this, CIC would accept the documents authentic.

I don't mean to be blunt, but are you just ignoring what I'm saying? what you wrote is for birth and marriage certificates and other documents, NOT for what the OP is asking. They do not want or need certificates from universities. They just want to know where a person went to school, for what, and how long. They can easily call the university themselves and check if they feel the need to.

 

[greenoil]

OK, you and I disagree on our own interpretation of the CIC guide. I read the guide and they do say "ANY Document is not in E/F must" so I would follow it. I don't expect CIC will make phone call to double check education since they may face technical issue such as language barrier. So to be certain, I always recommend to have the documents certified. I have seen an immigration application returned and refused because immigration officer didn't believe the diplomas authentic, they couldn't verify it in the refused letter. I showed them to get the embassy to translate the copies and certify the documents, she is now paying tax in Canada. This case is from a Provincial Nominee Program not directly from CIC, but I think they receive same training.
Not trying to convince you what you believe, this is how I would do it.

 

[KJG]

OK, you and I disagree on our own interpretation of the CIC guide. I read the guide and they do say "ANY Document is not in E/F must" so I would follow it. I don't expect CIC will make phone call to double check education since they may face technical issue such as language barrier. So to be certain, I always recommend to have the documents certified. I have seen an immigration application returned and refused because immigration officer didn't believe the diplomas authentic, they couldn't verify it in the refused letter. I showed them to get the embassy to translate the copies and certify the documents, she is now paying tax in Canada. This case is from a Provincial Nominee Program not directly from CIC, but I think they receive same training.
Not trying to convince you what you believe, this is how I would do it.

you do not need to send any documents other than marriage certificate, birth certificate, police check and national identity documents depending on your country....if any of those are not in english or french they must be translated by a certified translator......for sponsorship under family class CIC does not want educational documents.

 

[greenoil]

Agree

 

[parker24]

you do not need to send any documents other than marriage certificate, birth certificate, police check and national identity documents depending on your country....if any of those are not in english or french they must be translated by a certified translator......for sponsorship under family class CIC does not want educational documents.

That's exactly what I was saying lol