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Hello,

My girlfriend is a German national, who has done her B.A at a Canadian University. She will be getting her 3 year, Post-Graduate Student Work Visa, in order to gain work experience(NOC 0,A,B) to move towards Permanent Residency. We have a few questions:

1) While on her 3 year work permit, is she able to take more classes on that permit?

2) Is the 1 year work experience(full-time or part-time) hours based? We understand for full-time it must be minimum 30 hours a week. For 1 year of work experience, would this mean 30hrs/wk *52 wks = 1560 hours?

Or is there a minimum hour limit? Because if she is working full-time(40hrs) and even more hours on top, she could theoretically apply for PR even earlier...

3) For people who have gone through this process does the following seem reasonable:

Year 1: Gain 12 months work experience, at the end, apply for PR
Year2/3: Hopefully PR is granted after 2 years?
Year 4: PR status
Year 5: PR status
Year 6: Apply for citizenship(has been in Canada on PR for 2 years, and can include half-time of previous 2 years to count towards 1 additional year of the 3 year requirement of being in Canada)
Year 7 and beyond: Able to travel to homeland and abroad, while maintaining 3/5 year rule for PR in Canada, through citizenship process.

From the time of applying for PR, it should take around 2 years to get status?
From the time of applying for citizenship, it should take around 2-3 years to get citizenship?


Thank you so much for any insights and help provided!!
 
ravdawg said:
Hello,

My girlfriend is a German national, who has done her B.A at a Canadian University. She will be getting her 3 year, Post-Graduate Student Work Visa, in order to gain work experience(NOC 0,A,B) to move towards Permanent Residency. We have a few questions:

1) While on her 3 year work permit, is she able to take more classes on that permit?

2) Is the 1 year work experience(full-time or part-time) hours based? We understand for full-time it must be minimum 30 hours a week. For 1 year of work experience, would this mean 30hrs/wk *52 wks = 1560 hours?

Or is there a minimum hour limit? Because if she is working full-time(40hrs) and even more hours on top, she could theoretically apply for PR even earlier...

3) For people who have gone through this process does the following seem reasonable:

Year 1: Gain 12 months work experience, at the end, apply for PR
Year2/3: Hopefully PR is granted after 2 years?
Year 4: PR status
Year 5: PR status
Year 6: Apply for citizenship(has been in Canada on PR for 2 years, and can include half-time of previous 2 years to count towards 1 additional year of the 3 year requirement of being in Canada)
Year 7 and beyond: Able to travel to homeland and abroad, while maintaining 3/5 year rule for PR in Canada, through citizenship process.

From the time of applying for PR, it should take around 2 years to get status?
From the time of applying for citizenship, it should take around 2-3 years to get citizenship?


Thank you so much for any insights and help provided!!

1) probably not but it depends on her permit

2) it's a year full time which is deemed to be 30 hours/week. You must do 1 year - you can't do a 60 hour week and apply after 6 months. Anything more an 30 hours isn't counted. If she works less than 30 hours, she will need to go over 1 year to make up the hours.

3) PR is usually granted in 12-15 months give or take - this year is a bit longer it appears.

I can't answer on citizenship I'm afraid
 
Hi!

Thanks for the post. Re: 2) that makes sense in terms of hours etc, I suppose I will have to read specific documents to find the exact wording of hours. Unless you may have that?

I.e. in the interm she could work part time to gain some hours, to put towards it, and the move on to full time.


Anyone else with related experience have any idea if you can do course work while on the Post-Graduate Student Work Permit?
 
ravdawg said:
Anyone else with related experience have any idea if you can do course work while on the Post-Graduate Student Work Permit?

You can take courses as long as the entire course of study is six months or less. If she is just planning on taking an individual short course - that's fine. If she wants to take several individual courses that eventually lead to a diploma or degree - then she will need to apply for a study permit.
 
Thank you so much! Very valuble information :) So to follow up, if her intention is to
take a 1 year diploma program she would simply get a study visa on top of
her PGSWP and there is no conflicts right? She wants to get the 3 year work permit from her 4 year bachelors and then do an additional diploma to get more skills. then in the remaining 2 years of the work permit finish the 12 months skilled work(noc, 0,a,b) and apply for PR.

Thanks as always! ( I'm glad I'm a canadian citizen :p)
 
ravdawg said:
Thank you so much! Very valuble information :) So to follow up, if her intention is to
take a 1 year diploma program she would simply get a study visa on top of
her PGSWP and there is no conflicts right?

Yes - there's a conflict according to the rules.

If she gets a new study permit, this will invalidate her PGWP. So she needs to choose. Either the PGWP or a new study permit.
 
1. I dont know about applying for a new study permit but I was told by CIC that my study permit is still valid (even though I was issued a post graduate work permit after my convocation).

But remember you cannot be registered as a full time student when counting work experience for CEC.
 
Will try and find out this week if you can get a study visa while on PGSWP. Will post in case anyone else needs to know.


It is a bit confusing since technically the diploma can be broken into multiple parts, and wouldn't really need to get visa for it...
 
I would like to add something . She can go back to school once she gets AOR and will pay domestic student fees and she will not need student visa .
 
Thank you for that additional information, hopefully that will help someone else :)

As for now, her reason for wanting to do the 9month-12month certificate program is to be more employable in a field she is interested in. Her B.A. will be in Psychology, and she would probably be more happy if she can do something she is interested in, and not just any job(though not many from looking at NOC) to satisfy PR.
 
sabidhawan said:
I would like to add something . She can go back to school once she gets AOR and will pay domestic student fees and she will not need student visa .

Is this true? Is there any link that I can read up on this?
I applied a month ago so hopefully expecting an AOR in a month. Can I look into going back into post secondary education for Fall 13?
 
sabidhawan said:
I would like to add something . She can go back to school once she gets AOR and will pay domestic student fees and she will not need student visa .

AOR doesnt mean you ll get PR..i dont think so it is possible..