Canada PR sponsoring spouse - please help!

[cokezero]

Hi folks,

I am a Canadian PR who wants to sponsor his spouse. I currently live outside Canada (but plan on moving in after 2 years or so due to job issues) and from the website it seems that I MUST live in Canada to sponsor.

Is there any solution to this problem? Can I just rent a place in Canada and then leave so that I can show CIC that I live there?

 

[rjessome]

Hi folks,

I am a Canadian PR who wants to sponsor his spouse. I currently live outside Canada (but plan on moving in after 2 years or so due to job issues) and from the website it seems that I MUST live in Canada to sponsor.

Is there any solution to this problem? Can I just rent a place in Canada and then leave so that I can show CIC that I live there?

No.

 

[cokezero]

How does/would know CIC know that I don't live in Canada?

 

[scylla]

You must submit proof of your income/job along with the application to be approved as a sponsor. They will see from the proof you submit that you clearly hold a job outside of Canada and cannot be residing here.

 

[Steph C]

To be devil's advocate, income might not be proof of living abroad if you file taxes as self-employed.

I think you can sponsor your spouse if you prove that you do intend to live in Canada in the future. I just saw a similar thread on the same subject.

 

[steaky]

You must submit proof of your income/job along with the application to be approved as a sponsor. They will see from the proof you submit that you clearly hold a job outside of Canada and cannot be residing here.

Well it doesn't say that income has to be come from employment. Other income such as rental and interest income are okay as long as they are from Canadian sources. As such, as long as you don't tell the bank that you are non-resident and have a home in Canada, I wondered how CIC would know you are not residing here.

Steph C: You are wrong. Only Canadian citizen can have this option of spouse sponsor while living exclusively outside Canada.

 

[Steph C]

I guess it's not like the gangway on the cruise ship where they scan you in and out?

 

[CharlieD10]

Well it doesn't say that income has to be come from employment. Other income such as rental and interest income are okay as long as they are from Canadian sources. As such, as long as you don't tell the bank that you are non-resident and have a home in Canada, I wondered how CIC would know you are not residing here.

Steph C: You are wrong. Only Canadian citizen can have this option of spouse sponsor while living exclusively outside Canada.

You are working on the assumption that CIC merely accepts the applicant's information based on what they write? I think the investigation is a little more thorough than that. This is a government office, you have no way of knowing what/how much information they have access to. Even if a non-resident PR has a bank account showing rental and interest income and a lease on an apartment, that doesn't mean this is all the proof they are going to need to accept they are living in Canada. I'm pretty sure they've seen other PRs try to get around the residency requirement using various methods, CIC wasn't born yesterday.

 

[rjessome]

Well it doesn't say that income has to be come from employment. Other income such as rental and interest income are okay as long as they are from Canadian sources. As such, as long as you don't tell the bank that you are non-resident and have a home in Canada, I wondered how CIC would know you are not residing here.

The Option C and/or Notice of Assessment would have a Canadian address on it. And the bank statements or letter from the employer. The only way around it is to misrepresent themselves since there are several places on the application form where the sponsor must state their address. And the applicant's PR application also must state the sponsor's address in at least two places that I can think of off the top of my head. So both parties would be misrepresenting themselves. Pretty big chance to take with huge consequences.

 

[kuku]

There are many things in the application forms other than proof if income to make them aware of your residential status in Canada. As proof of income is not required for spousal application, they do not rely on that only.

As per the rule - you need to be physically present in Canada in order to sponsor anyone..only exception is if you are a Canadian Citizen ..in that case to they would require to see and your assurance with proofs that you intend to coe back and stay in Canada once application is approved.

What do you fill up in the address section of those forms..they need your Canadian address at at least 3-4 places.. suppose you are writing your friend or relative's address there... now they also want you to fill up your employment history and your addresses of last 10 years where you stayed.. there is also a question in the form which asks when you recently entered Canada..

So there are many things to help them to figure out where you are. In the last but not the least they have easy access to Immigration records and border protection agencies. They just need to enter your SIN to pull out all information about you in minutes. They are very smart people it is just that their work load is stopping them to find each n every aspect of details of the applicant. But they do it when it looks suspicious.

and always remember - Never try to cheat CIC.. be Honest with them if you do not want to see your name in their records for future correspondences.

 

[steaky]

The Option C and/or Notice of Assessment would have a Canadian address on it. And the bank statements or letter from the employer. The only way around it is to misrepresent themselves since there are several places on the application form where the sponsor must state their address. And the applicant's PR application also must state the sponsor's address in at least two places that I can think of off the top of my head. So both parties would be misrepresenting themselves. Pretty big chance to take with huge consequences.

But the option C and/or Notice of Assessment would be available only after you file tax return for the previous tax year(s). Besides, I saw some posters in this forum have residences in Canada and USA, but works in USA.

 

[canadianwoman]

There would be another problem trying to fool CIC about where you are actually living. You have to prove your relationship is genuine, and one facet of that proof is showing how you communicate when you are apart. If you are actually living with your spouse while claiming to be in Canada, you won't have any communication proof. I guess you could fake that as well, but it seems at some point someone would say or do something to give away the game, at which point the PR visa would be refused and the applicant would be banned for misrepresentation.