can you state your intention of doing inbound PR application?

[210045803]

Hello everyone....so this is my dilemma.

Currently I have decided to do outbound paperwork for my Canadian Permanent Residency. However, if somehow my FBI background check fails for illegible prints and I have to wait a few more months I may change my mind and want to do inbound Permanent Residency so that I can spend some time with my wife. It is hard to be a newly wed and live separate.

Now my question is if I quit my job to go to Toronto and live with my wife and apply for inbound paperwork is this legal? Can I state my intention to do inbound paperwork when visiting Toronto. My fear is quitting my job and then being denied entry then coming back with no job and pretty much have to wait a year while outbound is being processed. Reading about FBI background checks being rejected for illegible prints is scaring me. I want to submit a backup request for my background check but the guy who took my prints did a worse job than the first one and my local police office said the detective will be back after the new years.

I just don't understand if I'm allowed to do inbound paperwork why do I feel if I state my intentions I will be denied entry (or am I just wrong in my assumption). I feel like it's a catch22. I am uncomfortable about lying and coming as a visitor when my intent is to stay. Also it seems like reading the CIC website if I do inbound I am allowed to stay during the whole application process and not have to leave before 6 months (visitor limit).

Please advise.

 

[scylla]

You're American, right? If so, then outland is really the only way to go IMO. The 11 month processing time on the CIC web site reflects 80% of applications processed. This means many go through faster. My husband's processing time, for example, was four months.

 

[210045803]

Yes I am a US citizen. Did you get your husbands FBI background check relatively smoothly? I am just worried about that...reading horror stories and just paranoid...I don't want to wait 3 months only to get an illegible print record and then wait another 3 months again to see if the second set passes. BTW did you include a copy of your husbands birth certificate. I am a us citizen but I was born abroad....parents brought me here when I was 1 so I don't have my birth certificate...I think my mom may I'll have to ask her since I automatically became a US citizen when my mom became a us citizen (i was under 18).

Thanks so much.

 

[scylla]

Yes - our FBI check was processed smoothly the first time around. However we had significant challenges with one of the other police certificates we were supposed to provide which delayed our application submission.

My husband included copies of his birth certificate, baptismal certificate, passport and Nexus card. We tried to provide as much supporting documentation as possible to avoid delays. (I thought providing a copy of the birth certificate was mandatory but I could be wrong.)

 

[QCSunshine]

My FBI report went through fine too. Good luck!

 

[Iamrobot85]

I was at first planning to do the same thing. I had planned to move to Canada and marry my husband and then apply inland because we could not get married where I lived because we are a gay couple. I was told the people at the border the honest truth of my intentions and they denied me entry. This haunts me every time i try to cross the border now, though I have not been denied again, they will probably ALWAYS call me in to secondary questioning for hours every time I try to cross.

It's a pain and it's infuriatingly frustrating, but the honest truth is that it's probably better for you to apply outland and just wait. If you submit everything at once (instead of your medical here and FBI form there) I understand that you have a much better chance of having your application processed faster than 11 months.

Now, a lot of people apply outland and then visit their spouses while their applications process. This might be a better option for you.

 

[Black-Berry]

Please note, You can still live in canada even though you have an outland application in process, you just have to renew your six month visa

 

[210045803]

I was at first planning to do the same thing. I had planned to move to Canada and marry my husband and then apply inland because we could not get married where I lived because we are a gay couple. I was told the people at the border the honest truth of my intentions and they denied me entry. This haunts me every time i try to cross the border now, though I have not been denied again, they will probably ALWAYS call me in to secondary questioning for hours every time I try to cross.

It's a pain and it's infuriatingly frustrating, but the honest truth is that it's probably better for you to apply outland and just wait. If you submit everything at once (instead of your medical here and FBI form there) I understand that you have a much better chance of having your application processed faster than 11 months.

Now, a lot of people apply outland and then visit their spouses while their applications process. This might be a better option for you.

If I apply outland and visit will they always pull me in secondary for questioning? Is there a chance they may deny me with an outbound application? I mean I would have to go back to USA anyways with an outbound so I don't see why they may think I'd just stay in canada.

 

[210045803]

Please note, You can still live in canada even though you have an outland application in process, you just have to renew your six month visa

If I put an outland application how does the visiting work? Do they hassle you in secondary questioning? Or do they figure you have an outbound application and know you have to leave to have it properly done.

 

[Iamrobot85]

If you have submitted your application (and bring proof like a receipt or copies of the forms) they will most likely not deny you entry, though they very well may bring you in for additional screening. You also need to prove that you have "ties to the US" which you can do with bills in your name to an address in the states, bank statement, etc. I don't know if having your US address as the one on your application will be enough, but it certainly helps. But you don't actually have to return to the states once your application is processed, you can do what's called "flag poling" and go to the border, get the visa stamp in your passport, and then go back into Canada. Of course, if you have a lot of stuff in the states you will most likely want to return home anyway.

 

[scylla]

210045803 -

The short answer is yes - they can deny you entry to Canada even if you have an outland application in progress.

As others have suggested, bring evidence that you have an application in progress and also bring evidence that ties you to the US. Don't act or pack like you're moving (you're only allowed to visit) - and you shouldn't have problems at the border. Many do enter Canada under these circumstances without any problems. However some do have issues and in the end, no one can guarantee what your experience will be.