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Yorker13

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hi all,


i am compiling application for super visa for my parents who live in UAE, i tried to apply in 2017 but they refused the application listing so many factors which are not true,

i applied for GCMS notes last week to know ,what the officer have written,

i am a PR

1- my family compose of 7 members including parents, the LICO for 7 is around 67,000 cad$, my salary certificate for 2018 shows 64,900 CAD$ but i was working overtime ,i am sure i will pass the 67,000 CAD$ once i got the T4,

will IRCC use my salary certificate or my T4 as proof that i meet the LICO for 7 members?

2- we hold a somali passport, i been told by immigration consultant and a lawyer that the real reason for rejecting application for super visa is the nationality as officers believe they will claim refugee as soon as they enter, which is not true..!!

3- my parents didnt travel to any western countries ever, but my father who doesnt work have flat as private properity and investment as it is rented out.my mother only works ,my wife and kids lost their PR and they are also in UAE, i am currenly sponsoring them under family class,applied last month for them.

will this negatively impact my parent's super visa?

4- is having my own place essential,as i share accomodation with friends,i am subletting, since my family is not here, that was the reason not to rent my own place,

will this impact my parents super visa?

i would appreciate if someone give me ideas how to make my case stronger?

will going to a local MP help ? what exactly they can do in my case?
 
Hey, you're back :)


i am compiling application for super visa for my parents who live in UAE, i tried to apply in 2017 but they refused the application listing so many factors which are not true,

i applied for GCMS notes last week to know ,what the officer have written,
Probably would be a good idea to wait until you get the GCMS notes.


1- my family compose of 7 members including parents, the LICO for 7 is around 67,000 cad$, my salary certificate for 2018 shows 64,900 CAD$ but i was working overtime ,i am sure i will pass the 67,000 CAD$ once i got the T4,
A word of caution:
1. The LICO threshold stated in the income chart is just that a *threshold*. Your income is hit-and-miss for their super visa applications.

2. You have young children which could mean more expenses. IRCC would like to see your finances beyond the NOA/T4 to know whether or not you can host your parents for super visas.


will IRCC use my salary certificate or my T4 as proof that i meet the LICO for 7 members?
IRCC would consider your T4, employment letter, bank statement, et al. These are only suggested documents to ascertain your financial situation.


2- we hold a somali passport, i been told by immigration consultant and a lawyer that the real reason for rejecting application for super visa is the nationality as officers believe they will claim refugee as soon as they enter, which is not true..!!
Why only super visas? It could be the case for other temporary resident visas as well, right?

No, it does not work this way. I don't think IRCC paints everyone with the same brush. Each application is evaluated for it's individual merits.


3- my parents didnt travel to any western countries ever, but my father who doesnt work have flat as private properity and investment as it is rented out.my mother only works ,my wife and kids lost their PR and they are also in UAE, i am currenly sponsoring them under family class,applied last month for them.
Do you meet LICO for PGP sponsorship?


4- is having my own place essential,as i share accomodation with friends,i am subletting, since my family is not here, that was the reason not to rent my own place,

will this impact my parents super visa?
No


i would appreciate if someone give me ideas how to make my case stronger?
I think your finances are just borderline for super visa consideration. IMO, your parents must apply for TRVs instead


will going to a local MP help ? what exactly they can do in my case?
Your MP cannot influence visa decisions
 
Would imagine that given your parents ability to live in UAE is dependent on them being employed and the fact that they haven't lived in Somalia for a very long time (or ever) there will always be a concern that they will remain in Canada. Somali citizens are one of the common asylum applicants. You also haven't been supporting a wife and 3 children in Canada so going from 1 person to 7 plus supervisa insurance would be challenging on 65K. You can't count on overtime payments always being available.
 
Hey, you're back :)



Probably would be a good idea to wait until you get the GCMS notes.



A word of caution:
1. The LICO threshold stated in the income chart is just that a *threshold*. Your income is hit-and-miss for their super visa applications.

2. You have young children which could mean more expenses. IRCC would like to see your finances beyond the NOA/T4 to know whether or not you can host your parents for super visas.



IRCC would consider your T4, employment letter, bank statement, et al. These are only suggested documents to ascertain your financial situation.



Why only super visas? It could be the case for other temporary resident visas as well, right?

No, it does not work this way. I don't think IRCC paints everyone with the same brush. Each application is evaluated for it's individual merits.



Do you meet LICO for PGP sponsorship?



No



I think your finances are just borderline for super visa consideration. IMO, your parents must apply for TRVs instead



Your MP cannot influence visa decisions

Bryanna :)

Nice to read from you again, always appreciate your valuable inputs.

1- i did sent the IRCC the consent from and asked my parents to sign them,i hope they allow me to see the gcms notes,as i remember last time i tried and they rejected, i throw away the document ,cant remember what was the reason .but hopefully this time they will.

is there any other requirement beside the consent + 5$ ?

2- what you mean by "hit and miss",
in 2017 when i applied for super visa in the middle of the year, i didnt give me T4 for 2016 which was below the LICO ,but only gave my salary statement where the manager gave me salary increment to the limit that goes above the LICO for that year, however the application was refused .

now, its the oppositte, my T4 shows that i 70,000 CAD$ for 2018, i have all the payslips for the whole year, but my salary statement shows 64,000 CAD$ for 2018, and currently 65,000 for 2019, ,overtime is part of my job, that is why i accumlated 6,000$ extra last year as overtime, which was also recorded or shown on my Payslips.

so how did i hit and miss when my T4 shows 70,000 whereas LICO asks for 67,000?

Note: i have two T4 for 2018 for the same employer, employer changed the payroll company ,ADP,so i downloaded both and their sum shows 70k, is that a problem, to have 2 T4s?

3-why would my children be involved? they dont have PR status or visit visas even in canada?, if my parents come and visit me in canada that will be for 3 persons only, myself and both parents...!!
my wife works in UAE, and our kids go to private schools there , which we pay for it in UAE, how would their expenses in different country affect my parent's supervisa in canada ?

shall i include my wife's job and salary statement in UAE as well?also shall i show that my kids are at private shcools and show their paid fees ?! i am confused about your point Bryanna?

4- how much money do i have to have in my bank account? if i receive more funds from family to pump up my account will that impact my financial assessment in negative way.?

5- why supervisa not regular visit visa, is because i reach LICO for 2018, that is one obstacle paassed, i believe, the other obstacle which is present whether it is super visa or visit visa, it is the somali passport, in the rejection letter, the officer listed :

- -----------------------------------------------------
You have not satisfied me that you would leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary
resident. In reaching this decision, I considered several factors, including:
travel history
immigration status in country of residence
Family ties in Canada and in country of residence
Length of proposed stay in Canada
Purpose of visit
Employment prospects in country of residence
Current employment situation
Personal assets and financial status
I am not satisfied that you have sufficient funds, including income or assets, to carry out your stated
purpose in going to Canada or to maintain yourself while in Canada and to effect your departure.
You have not provided sufficient documentation to support your / your host's income and assets.

----------------------------------------------------------------

when the officer states that you will not leave by end of your visit, he /she impling that you will become refugee,this impression is because of nationality ,becuz i have seen similar cases but from different nationality and they were granted super visa.
that is not fair at all, to be treated because of a stereotype .
they did the same thing with my application for TRV/TRP for my two toddler daughters, i am a PR and my wife,their mother, is also a PR ,but their TRV was rejected becuase they again mentioned they are not satisfied they will leave by the end of their visit..!!!, which later led to my wife renounce her PR to stay with the kids, and i am here alone, even trying to get my parents under supervisa where i meet LICO is not achievable only becuase we have somali passport..!!!

6-no ,i dont meet LICO for PGP sponsorhsip?
by the way, can i include my wife's income in UAE ,although she is not a PR since 2018,and she will co-sign , or only the income has to be in canada only.

7- my father ,own a flat in UAE, that should be tie to home country,although we r expatriates to UAE, also have 300US$ in bank account in UAE,now father is retired, and mom only works and visa sponsored dad, in the rejection letter , they mention about their finances is not enoughf ro travel.
in the application, i mentioned that parents will come for 30 days, there was no option to mention multiple entries, the reason is,mother employer only give 30 days annual vocation, so if i say they will stay for above 6 months ,the embassy in abu dhabi will know that is not possible for workers in UAE to stay more than 6 months away from their jobs?
however maybe father can, since he is retired,
what is your advise on this scenario?
how much money they should show?

appreciate your help Bryanna,

do you know a good lawyer for this matter, i been waiting for the a year and working overtime to be able to apply for supervisa, i dont want to waste this opportunity .

thank you