Best strategy for Visa application...

[MarkGuy]

I know honesty is usually the best recommended strategy to use when applying for a TRV, but I also know that people in my situation are more than likely to be turned down when their partner applies for a TRV if they are completely honest.

I will give you the details of our situation and then ask for your recommendations.

I am a Canadian citizen.
My fiancee is from eastern Europe and requires a TRV to enter Canada.
We met recently in Turkey.
Our intention is for my fiancee to get a TRV, live with me for a few months and then get married a few months later.
We are not children. I am a senior and my partner is close to my age.

I know that if we marry in Canada, she would not be able to leave the country for at least 9+ months, until her permanent residency papers are received.
I also know that if we marry in Canada and she went back to her country to apply for her permanent residency papers they would be received in a shorter period of time than if she applied in Canada.
If she made it to Canada with a TRV we would choose the first method (waiting in Canada for her perm. res.).

My partner has a grown child who is completely independent.
She owns real estate in her city and has a successful business of her own.
She has traveled to various countries in eastern and western Europe.
She also has a university degree.
She lives a very comfortable lifestyle in her country.

The truth is she has strong ties to her country. This is what Immigration Canada likes to see.
But the truth is also that she is willing and able to cut those ties. This is not what Immigration Canada likes to see.

Our options as I see it are the following:

1. Have her apply for a TRV with my letter of invitation stating that she is my fiancee and would like to visit me, with the intentions of marrying in Canada. The absolute truth.

2. Have her apply for a TRV stating that she would like to visit a friend (me) for a few weeks.
I'm not sure what my letter of invitation would/should look like for this scenario.

3. Have her apply for a TRV on her own, as a tourist intending to stay for two weeks, seeing multiple cities.

4. Have her apply for a TRV using a travel agent, as a tourist intending to stay for two weeks, seeing multiple cities.

I would like to hear from various members as to which option you would recommend (or possibly add another option)?

Thanks for your suggestions!

 

[MarkGuy]

I know honesty is usually the best recommended strategy to use when applying for a TRV, but I also know that people in my situation are more than likely to be turned down when their partner applies for a TRV if they are completely honest.

I will give you the details of our situation and then ask for your recommendations.

I am a Canadian citizen.
My fiancee is from eastern Europe and requires a TRV to enter Canada.
We met recently in Turkey.
Our intention is for my fiancee to get a TRV, live with me for a few months and then get married a few months later.
We are not children. I am a senior and my partner is close to my age.

I know that if we marry in Canada, she would not be able to leave the country for at least 9+ months, until her permanent residency papers are received.
I also know that if we marry in Canada and she went back to her country to apply for her permanent residency papers they would be received in a shorter period of time than if she applied in Canada.
If she made it to Canada with a TRV we would choose the first method (waiting in Canada for her perm. res.).

My partner has a grown child who is completely independent.
She owns real estate in her city and has a successful business of her own.
She has traveled to various countries in eastern and western Europe.
She also has a university degree.
She lives a very comfortable lifestyle in her country.

The truth is she has strong ties to her country. This is what Immigration Canada likes to see.
But the truth is also that she is willing and able to cut those ties. This is not what Immigration Canada likes to see.

Our options as I see it are the following:

1. Have her apply for a TRV with my letter of invitation stating that she is my fiancee and would like to visit me, with the intentions of marrying in Canada. The absolute truth.

2. Have her apply for a TRV stating that she would like to visit a friend (me) for a few weeks.
I'm not sure what my letter of invitation would/should look like for this scenario.

3. Have her apply for a TRV on her own, as a tourist intending to stay for two weeks, seeing multiple cities.

4. Have her apply for a TRV using a travel agent, as a tourist intending to stay for two weeks, seeing multiple cities.

I would like to hear from various members as to which option you would recommend (or possibly add another option)?

Thanks for your suggestions!

I'm still hoping someone can reply to my post.
We would like to submit an application but want to use the method that would maximize our chances for success.
Could anyone give my their opinion who has experience with this?
For example:

1. 30% chance of success
2. 60% chance of success
3. 70% chance of success
4. 60% chance of success

etc.

Thanks!

 

[Jets13]

I'm still hoping someone can reply to my post.
We would like to submit an application but want to use the method that would maximize our chances for success.
Could anyone give my their opinion who has experience with this?
For example:

1. 30% chance of success
2. 60% chance of success
3. 70% chance of success
4. 60% chance of success

etc.

Thanks!

No one can really tell you what odds you have as each case is different and somewhat subjective by the officer.

Just my opinion, if you go with option one you will likely face a refusal as they will think she will want to live here and tourist visa is not for living. You already seem aware of the proper avenues for her to live here.

I personally wouldn't do option 4 because TRV applications are not that difficult to fill out so I wouldn't trust an agent. Agents can sometimes add fake documents or make mistakes and that could result in your wife getting a 5 year ban (which would include even if you got married) even if it wasn't her fault and the agent made a mistake.

Option 3 is a lie so I personally wouldn't do that. Failing to mention you in the application but then if somehow at the border they found out she was here to meet you that could also be misrepresenting herself. Or if she gets married to you a few months later. For the PR file you will have to show that your relationship is genuine, and for that I'm assuming you have communication with her that goes back quite a bit and you will have to include that in the pr file.

So maybe option 2? If she has really strong ties to her home country and can convince that she will go back. Has she gone to any countries that require a visa for her?

Not sure if you mentioned the option of you going there to get married and applying for her PR while shes living there from here. (something to think about, if her relatives will not be able to make it here for the wedding (like her son) and your relatives can easily travel to Europe with CDN passort)

 

[MarkGuy]

...So maybe option 2? If she has really strong ties to her home country and can convince that she will go back. Has she gone to any countries that require a visa for her?

Not sure if you mentioned the option of you going there to get married and applying for her PR while shes living there from here. (something to think about, if her relatives will not be able to make it here for the wedding (like her son) and your relatives can easily travel to Europe with CDN passort)

Thanks for your reply Jets I appreciate it.
So far she hasn't traveled to a country requiring a visa.
Yes the option is always there to go to her country to marry, but I would much prefer not to (perhaps a second marriage in the future).

Today after finding out some more info from my fiancee I decided to play it as safe as possible and go with the pros.
I will be using the services of the law firm that hosts this site to apply for the TRV.

I'll keep everyone posted later to let you know how things turn out.

 

[Jets13]

Thanks for your reply Jets I appreciate it.
So far she hasn't traveled to a country requiring a visa.
Yes the option is always there to go to her country to marry, but I would much prefer not to (perhaps a second marriage in the future).

Today after finding out some more info from my fiancee I decided to play it as safe as possible and go with the pros.
I will be using the services of the law firm that hosts this site to apply for the TRV.

I'll keep everyone posted later to let you know how things turn out.

best of luck