Best immigration program for a business director (paid experience issue)?

[lolcocks]

Hello,

I am from India and want to immigrate to Canada for a better life.

Currently, me and my father own a small business where I am a 50% director since the last three years.

Unfortunately, I only started getting paid since the last 6 months because prior to that I was working part time as I was also studying for my masters.

My father won't be joining me, but I will be taking the same business I conduct here with a little bit of changes, adding IoT and remote monitoring to the mix to make it survive in the future.

Now, we are not a big business, we are a small business with about ten employees. So making a direct investment of a certain amount is not possible. Neither me personally nor the company has that much money to directly setup a business in Canada. More so due to COVID-19, small business like mine have taken a big hit.


Since Express Entry requires paid experience, according to Canada, I have only 6 months of experience.

My current score with less than one year of experience is 431. And the cut off for the last express entry invites was 478. No way I am getting in with such a low score.



Is there some other program I could join or is Express Entry is my best bet?

 

[scylla]

Hello,

I am from India and want to immigrate to Canada for a better life.

Currently, me and my father own a small business where I am a 50% director since the last three years.

Unfortunately, I only started getting paid since the last 6 months because prior to that I was working part time as I was also studying for my masters.

My father won't be joining me, but I will be taking the same business I conduct here with a little bit of changes, adding IoT and remote monitoring to the mix to make it survive in the future.

Now, we are not a big business, we are a small business with about ten employees. So making a direct investment of a certain amount is not possible. Neither me personally nor the company has that much money to directly setup a business in Canada. More so due to COVID-19, small business like mine have taken a big hit.


Since Express Entry requires paid experience, according to Canada, I have only 6 months of experience.

My current score with less than one year of experience is 431. And the cut off for the last express entry invites was 478. No way I am getting in with such a low score.



Is there some other program I could join or is Express Entry is my best bet?

Canadian immigration programs require you to have at least one year of full time work experience. Unfortunately unpaid work cannot be counted as work experience. You really need to wait until you have at least one year of full time paid work experience before qualifying to immigrate to Canada will be realistic.

Another option you could consider is coming here on a study permit to study full time. This will not guarantee PR but will increase your points.

 

[lolcocks]

Canadian immigration programs require you to have at least one year of full time work experience. Unfortunately unpaid work cannot be counted as work experience. You really need to wait until you have at least one year of full time paid work experience before qualifying to immigrate to Canada will be realistic.

Another option you could consider is coming here on a study permit to study full time. This will not guarantee PR but will increase your points.

Thank you, scylla.

What if, for the next one year, I practice French extensively and score decent in TEF or TCF? I would finally have one year of experience (I hope not getting salary for four months does not disqualify me) and a score of 498.

Will that hold up till next year? I am worried as cutoffs are rising every year. Lastest one is already at 478.

 

[scylla]

Thank you, scylla.

What if, for the next one year, I practice French extensively and score decent in TEF or TCF? I would finally have one year of experience (I hope not getting salary for four months does not disqualify me) and a score of 498.

Will that hold up till next year? I am worried as cutoffs are rising every year. Lastest one is already at 478.

Yes - learning French is certainly another option. If you want to achieve this goal in a year, you will need to dedicate significant time to your studies to achieve the required level of proficiency. However it's definitely doable.

It's really impossible for any of us to say where points will be in a year.

I'm not sure what you mean by not getting a salary for four months disqualifying you. For most Canadian immigration program, you need to have one year of full time work experience that is continuous - meaning without breaks in work or pay. So you want to make sure you get a year of continuous full time skilled work experience. The continuous part is important.

 

[lolcocks]

Yes - learning French is certainly another option. If you want to achieve this goal in a year, you will need to dedicate significant time to your studies to achieve the required level of proficiency. However it's definitely doable.

It's really impossible for any of us to say where points will be in a year.

I'm not sure what you mean by not getting a salary for four months disqualifying you. For most Canadian immigration program, you need to have one year of full time work experience that is continuous - meaning without breaks in work or pay. So you want to make sure you get a year of continuous full time skilled work experience. The continuous part is important.

Damn, then that's a problem.
Since I was paid for 6 months, and now haven't been paid for 4 months, the continuity has been lost. I will have to get paid for one full year once again. That too if I don't get paid for one month once again, continuity will once again be lost. . That's just painful.

Is it okay if I get paid for the last 4 months directly at once?



How good is the education path? If I want to achieve a PR, will it have to be a full time one year study course? Or can I do something short term like a 6 month course + work at the same time?

 

[scylla]

Damn, then that's a problem.
Since I was paid for 6 months, and now haven't been paid for 4 months, the continuity has been lost. I will have to get paid for one full year once again. That too if I don't get paid for one month once again, continuity will once again be lost. . That's just painful.

Is it okay if I get paid for the last 4 months directly at once?



How good is the education path? If I want to achieve a PR, will it have to be a full time one year study course? Or can I do something short term like a 6 month course + work at the same time?

Yes - your year will restart from scratch. I would not recommend getting paid for 4 months at once. IRCC may interpret this as misrepresentation.

Yes - you must be a full time student if you want to come to Canada on a study permit. You want the the program to be at least two years long (full time) so that you can qualify for a 3 year post graduate work permit once you are finished and give yourself the best chance of securing a job here and then PR.

A six month course is too short and you will not be allowed to work while you are here. A six month course will not help you at all for PR and will be a waste of your time and money.

 

[lolcocks]

Yes - your year will restart from scratch. I would not recommend getting paid for 4 months at once. IRCC may interpret this as misrepresentation.

Yes - you must be a full time student if you want to come to Canada on a study permit. You want the the program to be at least two years long (full time) so that you can qualify for a 3 year post graduate work permit once you are finished and give yourself the best chance of securing a job here and then PR.

A six month course is too short and you will not be allowed to work while you are here. A six month course will not help you at all for PR and will be a waste of your time and money.

I would have had no problem doing a 2 year long full time program, but my parents are getting old, I was born quite late, my father will not be able to handle the business for two more years. He starts having massive health issues if he tries to work for two days.


Are there any other options or is this the end of the line for me?

 

[lolcocks]

Yes - your year will restart from scratch. I would not recommend getting paid for 4 months at once. IRCC may interpret this as misrepresentation.

Yes - you must be a full time student if you want to come to Canada on a study permit. You want the the program to be at least two years long (full time) so that you can qualify for a 3 year post graduate work permit once you are finished and give yourself the best chance of securing a job here and then PR.

A six month course is too short and you will not be allowed to work while you are here. A six month course will not help you at all for PR and will be a waste of your time and money.

What about jobs?
Can I directly apply for a job, if I get selected, then I will the company help me obtaining a work VISA?

 

[scylla]

I would have had no problem doing a 2 year long full time program, but my parents are getting old, I was born quite late, my father will not be able to handle the business for two more years. He starts having massive health issues if he tries to work for two days.


Are there any other options or is this the end of the line for me?

You can look into the PNP programs. They each have their own requirements and you'll need to dedicate time to researching.

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigratio...e-canada/provincial-nominees/eligibility.html

 

[scylla]

What about jobs?
Can I directly apply for a job, if I get selected, then I will the company help me obtaining a work VISA?

There is pretty much zero chance you would be able to secure a job offer. The process employers have to go through is very long and expensive and most are not willing to do it. Especially difficult now with higher unemployment rates in Canada due to COVID-19.

Focus on qualifying to immigrate. Forget about trying to get a job offer.

 

[lolcocks]

There is pretty much zero chance you would be able to secure a job offer. The process employers have to go through is very long and expensive and most are not willing to do it. Especially difficult now with higher unemployment rates in Canada due to COVID-19.

Focus on qualifying to immigrate. Forget about trying to get a job offer.

Hmmmmm, alright thank you for the information.
So chances of getting a job directly are almost close to 0%.

You can look into the PNP programs. They each have their own requirements and you'll need to dedicate time to researching.

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigratio...e-canada/provincial-nominees/eligibility.html

Thank you scylla, you have helped me so much.

I quickly glanced over the requirements and all of them require experience, of which I have 0.

I think going for studies would be my best bet.
Problem is, I have already put so many years into education, I am tired of once again giving exams and shit. I already have more expertise in my field than 80% 0f the other people in the same profession. But I guess I have no choice.

Sorry, just venting. Makes me sad that people with less expertise than me are more qualified because of "experience".


Is it okay if I work on a student VISA? Living off my parent's money at their age is definitely not a good idea. Not sure if I can work on a full time course, but can I work on a part time course? If yes, would a part time course of 2 or 3 years be eligible for a work permit and then PR after a few years?

 

[scylla]

Hmmmmm, alright thank you for the information.
So chances of getting a job directly are almost close to 0%.




Thank you scylla, you have helped me so much.

I quickly glanced over the requirements and all of them require experience, of which I have 0.

I think going for studies would be my best bet.
Problem is, I have already put so many years into education, I am tired of once again giving exams and shit. I already have more expertise in my field than 80% 0f the other people in the same profession. But I guess I have no choice.

Sorry, just venting. Makes me sad that people with less expertise than me are more qualified because of "experience".


Is it okay if I work on a student VISA? Living off my parent's money at their age is definitely not a good idea. Not sure if I can work on a full time course, but can I work on a part time course? If yes, would a part time course of 2 or 3 years be eligible for a work permit and then PR after a few years?

No. You can't work on a part time course. And no, completing part time studies in Canada will not make you eligible for a work permit after you complete your studies.

You must be studying in Canada full time to be able to work during your studies and qualify for a work permit afterwards.

 

[lolcocks]

No. You can't work on a part time course. And no, completing part time studies in Canada will not make you eligible for a work permit after you complete your studies.

You must be studying in Canada full time to be able to work during your studies and qualify for a work permit afterwards.

Two year full time sufficient or three years required?

 

[scylla]

Two year full time sufficient or three years required?

A two year program full time will get you a three year work permit after you finish your studies. This will increase your chances of getting PR but certainly won't guarantee PR.

 

[lolcocks]

A two year program full time will get you a three year work permit after you finish your studies. This will increase your chances of getting PR but certainly won't guarantee PR.

Thank you, scylla!

Does a two year full time study program guarantee a three year work permit? Or that too is taken from a draw?
Like, does a full two year course from a university guarantee me a work permit?