Apply Inland or Outland? Please give me some help

[j87]

You don't get a visa, because you are visa-exempt. What you have is a visitor record. You can extend this online, it's good to do that about a month before it expires.

For the majority if not all visa-exempt countries, it's probably better to apply outland as it will be significantly faster. If you don't have to work there is not much reason for an inland application.

Thank you Aquakitty!

Right, but I have got a letter from the Immigrant last time when I be back to Canada. I don't think it is easy for me to apply for the extension in my status.
Do you mean I should extend it online at this moment, if it be rejected, then apply for the Sponsorship inland?

But, even if I can extend my visa for another 6 months, who knows if I can get the extension again for another 6 months or till I got the PR....

It drives me crazy :'(

 

[j87]

Sorry, but you have to do this. We can offer suggestions, but it's your decision.

So... what is your suggestion Ponga? Apply it inland?

 

[Ponga]

If you lose your status before you even apply Inland, there's no reason to apply Inland, because you won't qualify for the OWP. It's also possible that you could be removed from Canada (although maybe not likely).

 

[j87]

If you lose your status before you even apply Inland, there's no reason to apply Inland, because you won't qualify for the OWP. It's also possible that you could be removed from Canada (although maybe not likely).

I have to apply it before my permission expired tho...

 

[CaroM8]

Like previous poster said, it's really up to you.. But it seems like it might be really complicated for you to apply inland.. Why don't you just do outland? I don't know your exact situation but maybe you could go back home for a few months, do the outland, then come back to Canada.

The reason why we chose outland was because we weren't ready to move to Canada permanently yet, we figured in about 6months or so we'd have all our ducks in a row. So it just made sense to start the application process now and by the time we get it (fingers crossed!) we'll be ready to go.

And yes sorry about my mistake, you do need a multiple entry to go in and out. But it seems like your situation is a bit more complicated than that..

 

[aliaix]

Hi there,

I am going to apply for the spouse sponsorship. After asking right here and looking for the information online, I don`t know which way should I apply for it. Please give me some help!

I am in Canada right now, and don`t want to leave Canada because of my family.

For applying Inland, should be 100% sure that I can keep staying here till I have got the PR.

For applying Outland, I may have chance to be back to my home country for the interview. It has risk to be rejected to be back to Canada by the immigration.


Please give me some ideas and information.

Cheers!

You should check this out. It's very informative and it will help you understand more. Couldn't post a link, but look up Matthew Iwama video on sponsorship part 3.

 

[j87]

Like previous poster said, it's really up to you.. But it seems like it might be really complicated for you to apply inland.. Why don't you just do outland? I don't know your exact situation but maybe you could go back home for a few months, do the outland, then come back to Canada.

The reason why we chose outland was because we weren't ready to move to Canada permanently yet, we figured in about 6months or so we'd have all our ducks in a row. So it just made sense to start the application process now and by the time we get it (fingers crossed!) we'll be ready to go.

And yes sorry about my mistake, you do need a multiple entry to go in and out. But it seems like your situation is a bit more complicated than that..

I can understand your point!
In my situation, I have to stay with my family here.
We are worrying that I may have chance to be rejected to entry Canada again, especially I have a letter from the Immigration.

 

[j87]

You should check this out. It's very informative and it will help you understand more. Couldn't post a link, but look up Matthew Iwama video on sponsorship part 3.

Thanks!

I have already watched it before I made this post.

As I said, I am worried about if they reject me to entry Canada

 

[Ponga]

Ok...this is only my opinion:

If the most important thing for you is to stay in Canada with your family during the process, submit an Inland application and an OWP (at the same time, in the same envelope). Make sure that you are sending the latest version of all required forms and that you have not missed any of the required signatures (VERY IMPORTANT). Also, be sure to pay the full amount of $255 for the OWP. Some people forget to include the $100 Permit Holder fee and end up having the OWP returned. If this happens, you risk losing your Implied Status. If the Inland application is returned, for outdated form(s), missing signature(s), you lose your Implied Status.

However....this is assuming that you still have legal status in Canada and will still have that legal status on the day that CIC receives the application. This is very important, because if you do not have status when the application and OWP is received, you will not be covered under `Implied Status', which is what offers the protection to stay in Canada. Some, maybe even most, Inland applicants that have lost their legal status are still allowed to stay, but some of them have been removed. I have no idea how CBSA determines who can stay and who cannot.

If you do not have status, or will not have status when CIC receives your application...there's no need to include the OWP (save the money), because you won't qualify for an OWP until you have first stage approval (AIP), which will be ~ 17 months. You will also be in Canada without authorization and will need to be very careful NOT to draw attention to yourself. Even being stopped for a routine traffic stop could be a problem.


Good luck!

 

[Aquakitty]

Thank you Aquakitty!

Right, but I have got a letter from the Immigrant last time when I be back to Canada. I don't think it is easy for me to apply for the extension in my status.
Do you mean I should extend it online at this moment, if it be rejected, then apply for the Sponsorship inland?

But, even if I can extend my visa for another 6 months, who knows if I can get the extension again for another 6 months or till I got the PR....

It drives me crazy :'(

What do you mean by a letter from immigration? Are you talking about a visitor record? Lots of people end up with those. Or, do you mean something else? How long until your current status expires?

 

[j87]

Ok...this is only my opinion:

If the most important thing for you is to stay in Canada with your family during the process, submit an Inland application and an OWP (at the same time, in the same envelope). Make sure that you are sending the latest version of all required forms and that you have not missed any of the required signatures (VERY IMPORTANT). Also, be sure to pay the full amount of $255 for the OWP. Some people forget to include the $100 Permit Holder fee and end up having the OWP returned. If this happens, you risk losing your Implied Status. If the Inland application is returned, for outdated form(s), missing signature(s), you lose your Implied Status.

However....this is assuming that you still have legal status in Canada and will still have that legal status on the day that CIC receives the application. This is very important, because if you do not have status when the application and OWP is received, you will not be covered under `Implied Status', which is what offers the protection to stay in Canada. Some, maybe even most, Inland applicants that have lost their legal status are still allowed to stay, but some of them have been removed. I have no idea how CBSA determines who can stay and who cannot.

If you do not have status, or will not have status when CIC receives your application...there's no need to include the OWP (save the money), because you won't qualify for an OWP until you have first stage approval (AIP), which will be ~ 17 months. You will also be in Canada without authorization and will need to be very careful NOT to draw attention to yourself. Even being stopped for a routine traffic stop could be a problem.


Good luck!

Thanks Ponga!

I still have a question,

What is the point to hold the OWP if I don't go to work?
I won't be able to have the OHIP...

Is staying here for a long period of time the benefit that I can have with OWP in this case?

Cheers

 

[j87]

What do you mean by a letter from immigration? Are you talking about a visitor record? Lots of people end up with those. Or, do you mean something else? How long until your current status expires?

It stated as a visitor record.

But I have to leave on/ before the date on it

 

[MilesAway]

Or you can apply to extend your status.

 

[aliaix]

Thanks!

I have already watched it before I made this post.

As I said, I am worried about if they reject me to entry Canada

In the unfortunate case that you will be called for an interview, that only happens toward the end of the application process and that means that you might be away from family/Canada for only a few months.