2 jobs, 1 problem

[urelilbro]

Hi Everyone,

I have an undergrad degree in Engineering from an Indian University in Dubai and my Masters in Engineering from Canada

I have worked close to 1100 hours working as a Cook (as mentioned in the paystub) in Nova Scotia and i moved to Alberta when i got offered a job at an engineering consulting firm as a Permitting coordinator (as mentioned in the offer letter) where I have completed over 650 hours. The company said that they would give me the Project Engineer title once I got my EIT application approved which could take upwards of 6 months. However I am currently fulfilling some engineering responsibilities even in my current position even though they are not a lot.

The closest NOC to the title Permitting Coordinator is Permit Clerk and is NOC 1452 (NOC Type C). I believe I would not be able to use that NOC code to proceed with a successful application. Does anyone have any tips for me in this scenario ? I am aware that a document showing the responsibilities of my job needs to be produced. Does this document need to state the NOC Code from the employer's side? Is there any material anywhere that I can read and understand the exact requirements of this document ? ​

My passport expires in November of 2019 and my post study work permit expires on the same day and can be extended till FEB 2020 ( once the passport is renewed ) . Does anyone have any tips for me in this situation if I should renew my passport before submitting my application for Permanent Residence ? Would anyone suggest that I wait till I get the new title to apply for P.R. or would it be too late to apply by then ?

Is there any added benefit of having an immigration consultant/lawyer in order to ensure that I don't have to leave the country by 2020 march because of my predicament. Any suggestions//feedback would be appreciated.

Thank you

 

[jes_ON]

I have an undergrad degree in Engineering from an Indian University in Dubai and my Masters in Engineering from Canada

I have worked close to 1100 hours working as a Cook (as mentioned in the paystub) in Nova Scotia
How many weeks worked, and how many hours worked per week?

and i moved to Alberta when i got offered a job at an engineering consulting firm as a Permitting coordinator (as mentioned in the offer letter) where I have completed over 650 hours.
How many weeks worked, and how many hours worked per week?

The company said that they would give me the Project Engineer title once I got my EIT application approved which could take upwards of 6 months. However I am currently fulfilling some engineering responsibilities even in my current position even though they are not a lot.

The closest NOC to the title Permitting Coordinator is Permit Clerk and is NOC 1452 (NOC Type C).
Job title does not matter. You have to choose the NOC based on the lead statement and the job duties and responsibilities.

I believe I would not be able to use that NOC code to proceed with a successful application.
If that is the correct NOC code, you are right, NOC level C jobs do not count as skilled employment.

Does anyone have any tips for me in this scenario ?
First, determine what your correct NOC code is. We can help you, but you would have to list your job duties and responsibilities.

I am aware that a document showing the responsibilities of my job needs to be produced. Does this document need to state the NOC Code from the employer's side?
IRCC asks for the NOC code in the letter, but it's not a big deal if it is not included in the letter, because IRCC will make its own determination about your NOC code.

Is there any material anywhere that I can read and understand the exact requirements of this document ?
See the "Proof of work experience" section:
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigratio...-after-january-1-2016-completeness-check.html​

My passport expires in November of 2019 and my post study work permit expires on the same day and can be extended till FEB 2020 ( once the passport is renewed ) . Does anyone have any tips for me in this situation if I should renew my passport before submitting my application for Permanent Residence ? Would anyone suggest that I wait till I get the new title to apply for P.R. or would it be too late to apply by then ?
I am not sure why you think the "new title" would affect your eligibility for PR, or why you think that ~ 6 months is "too late" to apply for PR.

But until you provide the details requested above about hours worked per week and total number of hours worked, as well as job duties and responsibilities of your current position, there is no way anyone can estimate when you will be eligible. It would also help to know what kind of engineering...

If the "new title" actually changes your job duties and responsibilities, then it is a new job, not just a new title. Doesn't matter, though, if you are expecting to qualify through CEC, you can combine multiple jobs...

Is there any added benefit of having an immigration consultant/lawyer in order to ensure that I don't have to leave the country by 2020 march because of my predicament.

What is the "predicament"? You have lots of time. But it is good to be planning ahead.

 

[monkeyspanner]

Cook is potentially a qualifying NOC code so this would count towards Canadian work experience if you can also get a letter from that employer. How are the 1100 hours made up? IRCC define full time as 30hours per week so you can only count a maximum of 30 hours each week. Have you looked at what CRS points you might have after one years experience? At present to get an ITA (invitation to apply for PR) you will need ideally somewhere around 445 points. As jes_ON says you are doing the right thing by planning ahead.

 

[urelilbro]

Thank you for your detailed reply, Jes_ON . You have truly set my mind at ease. Please find my replies in red to your questions in blue.

urelilbro said:
I have an undergrad degree in Engineering from an Indian University in Dubai and my Masters in Engineering from Canada
I have worked close to 1100 hours working as a Cook (as mentioned in the paystub) in Nova Scotia
How many weeks worked, and how many hours worked per week?
I am not applying with the cook position anymore. I have decided to apply for my P.R. with the experience from my current position. I will have completed my 1560 hours @ 30 hours per week by the JULY 31.

andi moved to Alberta when i got offered a job at an engineering consulting firm as a Permitting coordinator (as mentioned in the offer letter) where I have completed over 650 hours.
How many weeks worked, and how many hours worked per week?
I am not applying with the cook position anymore. I have decided to apply for my P.R. with the experience from my current position. I will have completed my 1560 hours @ 30 hours per week by the JULY 31.

The company said that they would give me the Project Engineer title once I got my EIT application approved which could take upwards of 6 months. However I am currently fulfilling some engineering responsibilities even in my current position even though they are not a lot.
The closest NOC to the title Permitting Coordinator is Permit Clerk and is NOC 1452 (NOC Type C).
Job title does not matter. You have to choose the NOC based on the lead statement and the job duties and responsibilities.
A majority of my job duties and responsibilities mirror that of an engineering manager (NOC 0211). I have indicated my job duties and responsibilities at the end of this post.

I believe I would not be able to use that NOC code to proceed with a successful application.
If that is the correct NOC code, you are right, NOC level C jobs do not count as skilled employment.
N/A

Does anyone have any tips for me in this scenario ?
First, determine what your correct NOC code is. We can help you, but you would have to list your job duties and responsibilities.
A majority of my job duties and responsibilities mirror that of an engineering manager (NOC 0211) Type A. I have indicated my job duties and responsibilities at the end of this post.

I am aware that a document showing the responsibilities of my job needs to be produced. Does this document need to state the NOC Code from the employer's side?
IRCC asks for the NOC code in the letter, but it's not a big deal if it is not included in the letter, because IRCC will make its own determination about your NOC code.
Thank you

Is there any material anywhere that I can read and understand the exact requirements of this document ?
See the "Proof of work experience" section:
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigratio...-after-january-1-2016-completeness-check.html
Thank you

My passport expires in November of 2019 and my post study work permit expires on the same day and can be extended till FEB 2020 ( once the passport is renewed ) . Does anyone have any tips for me in this situation if I should renew my passport before submitting my application for Permanent Residence ? Would anyone suggest that I wait till I get the new title to apply for P.R. or would it be too late to apply by then ?
I am not sure why you think the "new title" would affect your eligibility for PR, or why you think that ~ 6 months is "too late" to apply for PR.
But until you provide the details requested above about hours worked per week and total number of hours worked, as well as job duties and responsibilities of your current position, there is no way anyone can estimate when you will be eligible. It would also help to know what kind of engineering...
If the "new title" actually changes your job duties and responsibilities, then it is a new job, not just a new title.
Doesn't matter, though, if you are expecting to qualify through CEC, you can combine multiple jobs...
I have indicated my job duties and responsibilities at the end of this post.

Is there any added benefit of having an immigration consultant/lawyer in order to ensure that I don't have to leave the country by 2020 March because of my predicament.
What is the "predicament"? You have lots of time. But it is good to be planning ahead.
I guess I don't have a predicament now that you have explained it to me.


I will not be getting a new position as per recent developments and hence I did not reply to this message I was completely sure. My job responsibilities are noted below for your perusal. The closest NOC to the title of "Permitting Coordinator" is "Permit Clerk" and is NOC 1452 (NOC Type C).

1. Compile, verify, record and process permit applications, other forms and documents in accordance with established procedures using processing systems
2. Assign, co-ordinate and review the technical work of the various stakeholders (including stamped pipeline engineering drawings in order to compile a quality checked permit application
3. Consult and negotiate with clients to prepare specifications, explain and present engineering reports and findings
4. Plan, and organize the activities and operations of Stantec’s permitting scope according to the stakeholder’s schedule
5. Develop and implement plans to efficiently use resources in order to meet forecasted goals
6. Active participation in brain storming sessions in order to find solutions to overcome permitting challenges
7. Establish and conduct operating procedures and control strategies to ensure consistency and adherence to standards


I thank you for your time and patience for your reply.

 

[Wolfpmd3]

The important thing is to chose the right NOC for the duties outlined in your reference letter. You might be able to get whover is issuing it adapt them to aling better with the chosen NOC, though it they might not want to.

As of now, you are 460 hours short, which translates to 3 1/2 months. Totally attainable with the time you have left.

So make sure you'll be getting that skilled position NOC A or B before it's too late. Either switching jobs or getting your promotion.

Your passport needs to be valid for at least 6 months after the date you apply. Which is of course too tight and I would suggest just renewing your documents way before they expire.