Question about childbirth in Canada

[MortezaKazemi]

Dear Sir/Madam

Good morning. This is M. Kazemi (Mr.) and it would be highly appreciated to support me by having a reply upon below question:
My wife is pregnant and we plan to travel to Toronto to give birth to the baby. We have tourist visa and none of us is Canadian Citizen. We both are Iranian citizen. Is what we have planned to do illegal? Do we face any problem at Toronto Airport at the time of entrance? Shall we tell the officer the purpose of our vacation?
Would be really appreciated because of your supports beforehand.


Regards
M. Kazemi

 

[k.h.p.]

There was a story on this forum this week of a woman who did this and had a hospital bill of more than $220,000 Canadian dollars.

Do you have that much money available to pay the bills?

Your child will not be able to sponsor you to Canada. The border officers may deny you entry. It's not strictly illegal, but it is not supported. If the border officer asks you the purpose of your vacation, and if your purpose is truly to give birth, you must tell them the truth.

 

[ContactFront]

It's not illegal.
However as any other temporary visitor you'll be assessed by CBSA at the border and there's always a chance you could be refused entry.

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/publications-manuals/operational-bulletins-manuals/temporary-residents/visitors/persons-wishing-enter-canada-purpose-giving-birth.html

 

[Bs65]

Just be aware also there is no guarantee that at the border that CBSA may only allow you into the country for a few weeks after which you must leave so possibly not even long enough for the birth to happen. Or as above may even be refused entry if you are not considered genuine tourists..

Have you already even arranged for a hospital and determined the costs involved and budgeted in case of complications ? Have you also accounted for the time required to sort out travel documentation for the baby when it comes time to leave Canada and return home.

Having a baby in Canada is of no benefit at all to the parents at least until the child reaches 18 when they may be able to look at sponsoring the parents, 2038 onwards maybe depending on immigration laws at the time.

Note as above recent case of complications quoted on here the bill was 220000 CDN but a few years back there was an example of a million dollar cost to a birth tourist. Obviously these are worst cases and most births are trouble free but just something to keep in mind.

 

[MortezaKazemi]

Hi

Except those complecated problems, which We wish not to happen at all, other expenses already considered.
Regarding the newborn baby travel documents, We are still trying to find out how much time we will need. We are not sure if there is premium service to have the documents faster than usual.
Do you have any idea?

Regards

 

[k.h.p.]

No. There is not. That is now how healthcare in Canada works.

 

[Bs65]

For Canadian passports see here although if you are returning to Iran guess will need a visa for the child with a Canadian passport to enter Iran or an Iranian passport as well. I did read in press that Iran does not recognise dual citizenship so assume you have all that taken care of./ taken into account

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/canadian-passports/children.html

https://www.ontario.ca/page/register-birth-new-baby

https://www.ontario.ca/page/get-or-replace-ontario-birth-certificate

 

[canuck_in_uk]

Hi

Except those complecated problems, which We wish not to happen at all, other expenses already considered.
Regarding the newborn baby travel documents, We are still trying to find out how much time we will need. We are not sure if there is premium service to have the documents faster than usual.
Do you have any idea?

Regards

What you wish is irrelevant. Complications can happen. If you don't have the funds to cover such complications, do not come to Canada to give birth. It is not the responsibility of the Canadian healthcare system and Canadian taxpayers to pay for your birth tourism.

 

[hawk39]

I think most airlines do not allow a pregnant woman who is 1-2 months away from her due date to fly without permission from her doctor, and a supportive doctor usually advises against travel (especially long-distance) for pregnant patients that are almost to term.

 

[captainarabiia]

Airlines might deny you entry considering the proximity of due date.
Also CBSA may deny you entry if your plans to visit to Canada are unclear.
No one would travel on a long flight being pregnant unless it's an emergency.

All the best.

 

[zardoz]

Hi

Except those complecated problems, which We wish not to happen at all, other expenses already considered.
Regarding the newborn baby travel documents, We are still trying to find out how much time we will need. We are not sure if there is premium service to have the documents faster than usual.
Do you have any idea?

Regards

Just in case you haven't figured it out yet, nobody here is supportive of your plans.
Idea? Don't do it...

 

[canuck78]

Neither is most of Canada. Just read a report that birth tourism has skyrocketed in the past couple of years especially in Ontario (BC has had a problem for a while). Although a complicated issue for foreign nationals that have an actual reason to be in Canada I hope our government finally addresses the issue.

 

[vensak]

Neither is most of Canada. Just read a report that birth tourism has skyrocketed in the past couple of years especially in Ontario (BC has had a problem for a while). Although a complicated issue for foreign nationals that have an actual reason to be in Canada I hope our government finally addresses the issue.

The solution is simple. No more birth right citizenship, only inherited one (one of your parents has to be Canadian citizen). Interestingly enough this is the common practice in most of the world.

 

[Bs65]

The solution is simple. No more birth right citizenship, only inherited one (one of your parents has to be Canadian citizen). Interestingly enough this is the common practice in most of the world.

Maybe one of the only immigration policies that Trump is considering south of the border that Canada could follow although maybe keep it where at least one parent is a PR or citizen but remove where neither are PRs or citizens.

Still amazing that some birth tourists still seem to think that having a child in Canada gives the parents any benefits either for immigration or visit rights.

 

[canuck78]

The solution is simple. No more birth right citizenship, only inherited one (one of your parents has to be Canadian citizen). Interestingly enough this is the common practice in most of the world.

The issue is that Canada does not want to create stateless children. I am for change but pointing out what the complications are.