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ramank22787

ramank22787

Star Member
May 15, 2019
80
13
Visa Office......
New Delhi
NOC Code......
2171
AOR Received.
25-07-2019
Why there is no maintenance notice, we need it before every draw?
 
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enibeni23

Star Member
Jun 28, 2019
101
79
Midwest USA
NOC Code......
2121
Yqing237 said:
Hi people, please advise me on my current situation, I am in a dilemma right now. I got 2 years of experience in the US so far, sitting at 453 (456 maximum if I retake ielts) .My work authorization in the US is going to expire next March, so I will not get a chance at the H1 lottery next year. So I have only these options left now.
(1). Going with my current company overseas for two years then come back, I would say 20-30% chances that this is going to work.
(2). Waiting in the pool until maybe I get picked, but my case probably won’t get processed until next September or something, I can only stay in the US until next June before they kick me out. And I don’t wanna go back to China ever again, I may be arrested and never have a chance to get out again.
(3). Apply for a Canadian masters degree, which will boost my points a bit if I complete it since I already have a masters here. But I will be over 30 when I complete it.
(4). Apply for a US PHD, which is a long and tedious and frustrating process since I don’t wanna go back to my previous professors to ask for references.

I am glad that my family supports me for everything, and my mom understands that I would not go back ever again.

I prefer USA than Canada honestly, but I am ready to give up everything I have built up here ( I’m gonna be kicked out anyways). Shoulda gone to Canada for my masters degree 5 years ago if I knew this was gonna happen. It really upsets me seeing people live free here and I am the one who suffers.

Any advice and share of thoughts would be highly appreciated.
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Hi there...

I want to tell you that there are many people in a similar situation as you are in and many of them successfully find ways to make it work, so do not lose hope. You can find a pragmatic solution for your situation by being brutally honest and realistic about your long term and short term plans. You will need to be as realistic as possible in terms of what you can do and what you can't as well as having a sound financial plan.

With two years of work experience and masters degree from a US university, I think you could easily get into a Ph.D. program both in the US as well as Canada. However, if you have issues with references and what not, it might be challenging for you. Because you are working full time for a while now, you could always get a letter of recommendation from your employer and one or two from professors whom you think wouldn't mind giving you a generic letter ( which won't necessarily identify the best in you but should suffice). If you can get a glowing recommendation from your employer that will really help and also getting a good GRE score helps. I am not sure whether your Master's is in a STEM field. Your other academic option could be pursuing an MBA in Canada, this is a tertiary qualification in a sense as it can increase your chances of finding employment in Canada significantly once you finish. But MBA is not everyone's cup of tea, a lot of people from STEM fields may not particularly enjoy it. However, a Canadian Ph.D. in your case might not be a bad option, yes it may cost about 3-5 years of your life, but it also will open more doors in terms of a job.

Now I assume you are somewhere around 29 based on your comments and as you may know, you will lose points for age, I think it's about 5 points every year. This year, the CIC draws have become very competitive and it seems scores lesser than 460 are no longer considered safe. So getting a Canadian credential could be one way to circumvent your immigration problems as well as a chance to increase your points through Canadian education and possibly through work opportunities. Also, with a good degree program, you will be eligible for post-grad work permit which will allow you to work for about 3 years ( mind you, there are some assumptions here, some work permits are valid only for a year, you will need to check with the institution).

The other option is to seek asylum in either USA or Canada. Even though the current situation in the US is very much anti-immigration, I think you can still apply for asylum claiming the exact reason you mentioned in your post. They may grant you asylum. However, this requires a lot of verifiable documentation and procedural protocols, so please consider working with an immigration attorney who specializes in asylum and human rights. Btw, there are a lot of these attorneys who will work pro-bono ( for free). There are a lot of regulations which surround this and only a lawyer can help. Best of luck.
 
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Yqing237

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enibeni23 said:
Hi there...

I want to tell you that there are many people in a similar situation as you are in and many of them successfully find ways to make it work, so do not lose hope. You can find a pragmatic solution for your situation by being brutally honest and realistic about your long term and short term plans. You will need to be as realistic as possible in terms of what you can do and what you can't as well as having a sound financial plan.

With two years of work experience and masters degree from a US university, I think you could easily get into a Ph.D. program both in the US as well as Canada. However, if you have issues with references and what not, it might be challenging for you. Because you are working full time for a while now, you could always get a letter of recommendation from your employer and one or two from professors whom you think wouldn't mind giving you a generic letter ( which won't necessarily identify the best in you but should suffice). If you can get a glowing recommendation from your employer that will really help and also getting a good GRE score helps. I am not sure whether your Master's is in a STEM field. Your other academic option could be pursuing an MBA in Canada, this is a tertiary qualification in a sense as it can increase your chances of finding employment in Canada significantly once you finish. But MBA is not everyone's cup of tea, a lot of people from STEM fields may not particularly enjoy it. However, a Canadian Ph.D. in your case might not be a bad option, yes it may cost about 3-5 years of your life, but it also will open more doors in terms of a job.

Now I assume you are somewhere around 29 based on your comments and as you may know, you will lose points for age, I think it's about 5 points every year. This year, the CIC draws have become very competitive and it seems scores lesser than 460 are no longer considered safe. So getting a Canadian credential could be one way to circumvent your immigration problems as well as a chance to increase your points through Canadian education and possibly through work opportunities. Also, with a good degree program, you will be eligible for post-grad work permit which will allow you to work for about 3 years ( mind you, there are some assumptions here, some work permits are valid only for a year, you will need to check with the institution).

The other option is to seek asylum in either USA or Canada. Even though the current situation in the US is very much anti-immigration, I think you can still apply for asylum claiming the exact reason you mentioned in your post. They may grant you asylum. However, this requires a lot of verifiable documentation and procedural protocols, so please consider working with an immigration attorney who specializes in asylum and human rights. Btw, there are a lot of these attorneys who will work pro-bono ( for free). There are a lot of regulations which surround this and only a lawyer can help. Best of luck.
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Thanks for your insightful advice. I might start applying for a STEM degree in Canada honestly, since I am definitely not a MBA material.
 
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Tivativalu

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Apr 12, 2019
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Hey all... I've been getting Error 502 while logging into cic to update my profile. Is it just me or is anyone else facing this issue ?
 
13nitinsharma

13nitinsharma

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Apr 17, 2012
2,568
3,162
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CURRENT INTERNAL CRS TRACKER STATUS

(Updated till 12:30 PM IST today) CRS summary of active members waiting for Golden ITA:
  • 460+ (Total 9) - Folaroyal: 505 | simranj72: 474 | sudhach91: 462 | Dkshitij18: 461 | ajangbar001: 461 | meet0708: 461 | parth7d: 461 | Yukti2406: 461 | crjusuf: 461
  • 455-460 (Total 34) – sarak1812: 460 | DreamITA: 460 | epema.kz: 460 | Ican2019: 460 | Rose1207: 459 | ExpressMan: 459 | Punitsingh: 459 | Kathy.m: 458 | SimAneja: 458 | hungta: 458 | MuibKhan: 458 | chirkut: 458 | Kenneth89: 458 | Herlo: 458 | vivi153: 458 | Dhaval Trivedi: 458 | jollystripes: 458 | jjk505: 458 | atuls: 457 |#EEC: 457 | Priyasehgal22: 457 | sahils123: 457 | tharibak: 456 | royalking: 456 | phuketlove: 456 | SimonSaleh: 456 | Jasmine1998: 456 | brick8899: 456 | Angel1113: 456 | Sara890: 455 | Eddiesol: 455 | yigitsk: 455 | merlz: 455 | Manish Patel: 455
  • 450-454 (Total 37) - nadal87: 454 | abdulkhadar.moh: 454 | chirag171987: 454 | SG1507: 454 | Mspa: 454 | Sindhuja Karthikeyan: 453 | madhav_91: 453 | vivosvoco: 453 | Teenz: 453 | Maya53: 453 | Uchyann: 453 | jricardobt: 453 | Suhasrs: 452 | ArsheyaBegum: 452 | cdddelhi: 451 | Bageshree: 451 | praveen22: 451 | captainUT: 451 | tonydlaw24: 451 | Chuaxin1: 451 | 13nitinsharma: 450 | nehadeep: 450 | jkaur95: 450 | shamu2013: 450 | hakweye: 450 | parvin2019: 450 | ekta29: 450 | skg1988: 450 | mamuso: 450 | vmsanthosh.chn: 450 | akm_11: 450 | anusha1712: 450 | mominmalik5: 450 | mandiebraxton: 450 | xyz2017: 450 | Avmaia: 450 | kuljeetklf: 450 | Ranjitrip: 450 | Hasrat123: 450
  • 445-449 (Total 61) - Div_newbie:449 | veritas1994: 449 | dappy9: 449 | Manru:449 | AnkitaShukla: 449 | a.altigani: 449 | IndianFam: 449 | prsingh: 449 | SanjibSaha: 449 | kvaram_62: 449 |nitinkalra07: 449 | Sreedev83: 449 | ssimmigration19: 449 | patel_d07: 448 | EnthuChap: 448 | shine04: 448 | Agarwalparesh26: 448 | Tivativalu: 448 | AmeyaGodbole: 448 | Tilly3: 448 | M2a3r4y5a6m: 448 | SimonSaleh: 448 | Hydowwu: 448 | msgill88:448 | Lazybug: 448 | NMS@: 448 | panchalch2: 448 | Dewdrops1502: 448 | matteis:447 | D'trox: 447 | Noopur_23: 447 | Ravi_15: 447 | Meer85: 447 | Flowerview: 447 | armaanwadhwa: 447| nikki1992: 447 | Saial: 447 | shaunk_redemption: 447 | Brian_natt: 447 | infectious: 447 | LKRYA: 447 | sehgaljps: 447 | Stakesarehigh28: 447 | ExpressMan: 447 | Not_Your_Donkey_Kong: 446 | Rafahul: 446 | Reet_123: 446 | Kk1234:446 | SASH8288: 446 | MynameisMTS: 446 | RochelleAlford: 446 | rahulkraju: 446 | epema.kz: 446 | prince_lords:445 | frightenedpanda: 445 | dawak: 445 | nolimits7405: 445 | Boluwaduro: 445 | asad_ali_awan: 445 | MittalM: 445 | siataheri:445 | Yiss: 445 | IeltsDream2019: 445 | MarvelousMitz: 445
  • 441-444 (Total 40) - Shaanoh: 444 | NikSharma01:444 | NishaKirthi: 444 | Sonammahajan: 444 | mominmalik5: 444 | kadeed:444 | Jms_16: 444 | v_nitesh_k: 444 | nns14: 444 | Rohanisha: 444 | Ainpeespirant: 443 | MzBAH: 443 | gmi3001:443 | pursuit: 443 | sidra91: 443 | rharmon: 443 | seff786: 443 | seff786: 443| Lena32: 443 | aloobharta01:442 | Kiamin: 442 | tani: 442 | MV18: 442 | Dirup: 442 | Shishir Chandra Kumar: 441 | SociallyAwkward: 441 | BumbleFrisbee: 441 | Ram89: 441 | intels: 441 | Maalee: 441 | SJ24: 441 | anandthepilot: 441 | beluluba: 441 | Mukeshprasada: 441 | akhil994: 441 | Priya85: 441 | hardeepSingh: 441 | Sony K Koshy: 441 | WantToImmigrate: 441 | os32: 441
  • 435-440 (Total 17) - bluehorse:440 | Tamilan8: 440 | Chavoshhh: 440 | ppa: 440 | rovar473: 440 | Siddharth-BOM: 438 | cadiee:438 | :438 | Sara1981:438 | rdj08: 438 | Nidsy: 438 | ghvijay: 438 | Vive: 438 | Kiamin: 437 | Sam0301: 437 | sheikh.abaz: 435 | Hemilshah80: 435
  • Below 435 (Total 6) - Life79: 432 | kumsa83: 432 | Day2203: 431 | moto90: 424 | AND IND: 423 | Sdabas: 421
Please share your updated CRS score if you're not included in this list.
 
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Tivativalu

Hero Member
Apr 12, 2019
279
116
Hi All,

I am in the pool currently under Canadian Experience Class with 452 points. But i recently finished my work in Canada and moved out. I updated my country of residence and work history details with the end date to my Canadian job. Under "How much money will you bring to Canada "? I left as 0 earlier as I was working in Canada. But now that I am not.. do I need to update it or Can I leave it as it is ?

Thanks in Advance.
 
13nitinsharma

13nitinsharma

Champion Member
Apr 17, 2012
2,568
3,162
Canada
Tivativalu said:
Hi All,

I am in the pool currently under Canadian Experience Class with 452 points. But i recently finished my work in Canada and moved out. I updated my country of residence and work history details with the end date to my Canadian job. Under "How much money will you bring to Canada "? I left as 0 earlier as I was working in Canada. But now that I am not.. do I need to update it or Can I leave it as it is ?

Thanks in Advance.
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Yes, you need to update it.
 
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kidsy

Newbie
Jan 26, 2019
9
0
Yqing237 said:
Hi people, please advise me on my current situation, I am in a dilemma right now. I got 2 years of experience in the US so far, sitting at 453 (456 maximum if I retake ielts) .My work authorization in the US is going to expire next March, so I will not get a chance at the H1 lottery next year. So I have only these options left now.
(1). Going with my current company overseas for two years then come back, I would say 20-30% chances that this is going to work.
(2). Waiting in the pool until maybe I get picked, but my case probably won’t get processed until next September or something, I can only stay in the US until next June before they kick me out. And I don’t wanna go back to China ever again, I may be arrested and never have a chance to get out again.
(3). Apply for a Canadian masters degree, which will boost my points a bit if I complete it since I already have a masters here. But I will be over 30 when I complete it.
(4). Apply for a US PHD, which is a long and tedious and frustrating process since I don’t wanna go back to my previous professors to ask for references.

I am glad that my family supports me for everything, and my mom understands that I would not go back ever again.

I prefer USA than Canada honestly, but I am ready to give up everything I have built up here ( I’m gonna be kicked out anyways). Shoulda gone to Canada for my masters degree 5 years ago if I knew this was gonna happen. It really upsets me seeing people live free here and I am the one who suffers.

Any advice and share of thoughts would be highly appreciated.
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What is it that you did would make you worried about getting arrested in China?
 
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SangitaSo

Member
Jun 29, 2019
13
0
Punitsingh said:
As per my understanding, To claim points of 3 years of work experience, 2.5 +0.5 should be ok
But both jobs should be noc 0,A,B
NOC type(0,A,B) of 2.5 and 0.5 may be different.
Primary noc should be of at least 1 year
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I have my MBA in finance
Punitsingh said:
As per my understanding, To claim points of 3 years of work experience, 2.5 +0.5 should be ok
But both jobs should be noc 0,A,B
NOC type(0,A,B) of 2.5 and 0.5 may be different.
Primary noc should be of at least 1 year
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Hello Punit,
I wanted to know if bank officer and financial analyst post comes under which NOC type(0,A,B).
 
chirkut

chirkut

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May 26, 2019
216
76
Toronto
Category........
NOC Code......
6235
AOR Received.
08-10-2019
IELTS Request
L: 8.5,R: 7, W: 7, S: 8.5
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armaanwadhwa

armaanwadhwa

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Jun 30, 2017
378
338
Though I'm very positive but at the back of my mind, CIC can even reach its target for 2019 with current number of ITAs i.e. 3,350 until the end of the year with fortnightly draws. I'm sure not all ITAs are converted into PR and they invited more than they set for 2018 target - same may follow this year but we cannot ignore the fact that they can still reach the target with same number of ITAs i.e. 3,350. I'm in the same boat as all of you, just reiterating!!!
 
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