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Parent Visitor Visa Help - No ITR, No Properties

roujog

Member
Jun 4, 2019
10
1
Hi Guys,
Here is my Background:
Me and my wife moved to Canada from USA in Oct, 2018 on WorkPermit and became PR through Express entry in April 04 2019. I am working as a Software Developer in Toronto with good income.
Now, we are planning to call my parents from India for 3 week visit, below is their background:
- No Properties on their name
- No ITRs. I asked them to stop working and retire in 2014, as soon as I started working in USA.
- My sister is married recently and lives in the same city as my parents.

I am planning to mention below things in the letter while applying visitor visa:
- My parents are taking care of my GrandParents. For this 3 week visit, my sister will be taking care of them. But they have to return back to them as they are very old and sick.
- Rental Agreement with receipts
- 5 lacs balance in their bank account. I am planning to send another 5 lacs next week and we will wait for 3 months before applying for visa and submit 3 month statements.
- Show Gold in bank locker as investment
- I will show 20,000 CAD in my bank account in Canada and mention that I am sponsoring their expenses for their trip
- They already have US tourist Visa. I will prepare itenary covering NY, USA and Toronto, Canada in those 3 weeks.

I know their application looks weak and chances are low, but I want to give it a try. Can you guys please suggest me what else can I do to strengthen it.
 

canuck78

VIP Member
Jun 18, 2017
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Have they visited the US before? Otherwise a TRV is mainly due to their income and savings. Their savings must coincide to their previous salaries or it is evident that you are the one who are sending them money and will be funding the trip. There is no point in sending them a large influx of money money. They should consider a supervisa if you have met the LICO with this year’s NOA.
 

myra20sharma

Champion Member
Oct 5, 2018
1,952
632
Category........
CEC
Visa Office......
Nova Scotia
AOR Received.
30-05-2018
Hi Guys,
Here is my Background:
Me and my wife moved to Canada from USA in Oct, 2018 on WorkPermit and became PR through Express entry in April 04 2019. I am working as a Software Developer in Toronto with good income.
Now, we are planning to call my parents from India for 3 week visit, below is their background:
- No Properties on their name
- No ITRs. I asked them to stop working and retire in 2014, as soon as I started working in USA.
- My sister is married recently and lives in the same city as my parents.

I am planning to mention below things in the letter while applying visitor visa:
- My parents are taking care of my GrandParents. For this 3 week visit, my sister will be taking care of them. But they have to return back to them as they are very old and sick.
- Rental Agreement with receipts
- 5 lacs balance in their bank account. I am planning to send another 5 lacs next week and we will wait for 3 months before applying for visa and submit 3 month statements.
- Show Gold in bank locker as investment
- I will show 20,000 CAD in my bank account in Canada and mention that I am sponsoring their expenses for their trip
- They already have US tourist Visa. I will prepare itenary covering NY, USA and Toronto, Canada in those 3 weeks.

I know their application looks weak and chances are low, but I want to give it a try. Can you guys please suggest me what else can I do to strengthen it.
1. Do they have travel history, say for US?
2. If they are retired, are there proof of retirement and/or pension?
 

roujog

Member
Jun 4, 2019
10
1
Have they visited the US before? Otherwise a TRV is mainly due to their income and savings. Their savings must coincide to their previous salaries or it is evident that you are the one who are sending them money and will be funding the trip. There is no point in sending them a large influx of money money. They should consider a supervisa if you have met the LICO with this year’s NOA.
Thanks for your reply. They haven't visited US before. I haven't met the income last year because I only worked in Canada for 3 months from OCT to DEC. This year I will have enough income to support them.
 
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roujog

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Jun 4, 2019
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1. Do they have travel history, say for US?
2. If they are retired, are there proof of retirement and/or pension?
Thanks for your reply.
1. They dont have any travel history. They recently visited Nepal, but as Indians dont need passport to enter Nepal, no stamp on passport.
2. My mom was a homemaker and dad was doing a private job, so proof of retirement or pension.
 

myra20sharma

Champion Member
Oct 5, 2018
1,952
632
Category........
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Visa Office......
Nova Scotia
AOR Received.
30-05-2018
Thanks for your reply.
1. They dont have any travel history. They recently visited Nepal, but as Indians dont need passport to enter Nepal, no stamp on passport.
2. My mom was a homemaker and dad was doing a private job, so proof of retirement or pension.
what a VO sees in a file is the applicant would leave Canada after his/her stay. They need to have

1. Purpose of travel
2. Financial Support of their own
3. Home/Family ties
4. Travel history, if purpose of travel is weak

Once the VO sees the applicants have enough reasons to go back home, chances of getting a visa becomes higher.
 

roujog

Member
Jun 4, 2019
10
1
what a VO sees in a file is the applicant would leave Canada after his/her stay. They need to have

1. Purpose of travel
2. Financial Support of their own
3. Home/Family ties
4. Travel history, if purpose of travel is weak

Once the VO sees the applicants have enough reasons to go back home, chances of getting a visa becomes higher.
Yeah.
1. Purpose is to visit us in Canada for two weeks and cover tourist places.
2. 10 lacs Open FD in thier bank accounts
3. Grand Parents live with them
4. No travel history, other than Nepal.

I am talking with Licensed consultants here in Canada, they are charging 500$ per couple and saying that as they are licensed thier letter will have more weightage. Is that so? Is it worth going through a Immigration consultant?
 

myra20sharma

Champion Member
Oct 5, 2018
1,952
632
Category........
CEC
Visa Office......
Nova Scotia
AOR Received.
30-05-2018
Yeah.
1. Purpose is to visit us in Canada for two weeks and cover tourist places.
2. 10 lacs Open FD in thier bank accounts
3. Grand Parents live with them
4. No travel history, other than Nepal.

I am talking with Licensed consultants here in Canada, they are charging 500$ per couple and saying that as they are licensed thier letter will have more weightage. Is that so? Is it worth going through a Immigration consultant?

Yeah.
1. Purpose is to visit us in Canada for two weeks and cover tourist places.--->Was an itinerary included for those two weeks and reserved (not booked) air tickets?
2. 10 lacs Open FD in thier bank accounts --->Was a conversion to CAD included?
3. Grand Parents live with them --->Did you write about in the cover letter or somewhere?
4. No travel history, other than Nepal. ---> This is looked into if purpose of travel is weak.

I am talking with Licensed consultants here in Canada, they are charging 500$ per couple and saying that as they are licensed thier letter will have more weightage. Is that so? Is it worth going through a Immigration consultant? ---> I am not sure how much it would be effective as I have not used one for myself. And I have seen people getting rejections even after using a lawyer and other have gotten. So I cannot be sure. You can wait for someone's expert advice or experience on this.
 

roujog

Member
Jun 4, 2019
10
1
Yeah.
1. Purpose is to visit us in Canada for two weeks and cover tourist places.--->Was an itinerary included for those two weeks and reserved (not booked) air tickets?
2. 10 lacs Open FD in thier bank accounts --->Was a conversion to CAD included?
3. Grand Parents live with them --->Did you write about in the cover letter or somewhere?
4. No travel history, other than Nepal. ---> This is looked into if purpose of travel is weak.

I am talking with Licensed consultants here in Canada, they are charging 500$ per couple and saying that as they are licensed thier letter will have more weightage. Is that so? Is it worth going through a Immigration consultant? ---> I am not sure how much it would be effective as I have not used one for myself. And I have seen people getting rejections even after using a lawyer and other have gotten. So I cannot be sure. You can wait for someone's expert advice or experience on this.
I haven't started the application process yet.
1. I'm planning to include very detailed itinerary. Do I need to reserve the tickets?
2. I can include the conversion in the cover letter
3. I will mention this in the Cover letter
 

myra20sharma

Champion Member
Oct 5, 2018
1,952
632
Category........
CEC
Visa Office......
Nova Scotia
AOR Received.
30-05-2018
I haven't started the application process yet.
1. I'm planning to include very detailed itinerary. Do I need to reserve the tickets?
2. I can include the conversion in the cover letter
3. I will mention this in the Cover letter
I am sorry I thought you did;

1. I'm planning to include very detailed itinerary. Do I need to reserve the tickets?---> You can just reserve where the credit card is not charged until few days before the flight, so you would have an option to cancel/defer it.
2. I can include the conversion in the cover letter ---> You can google any converter to convert the INR to CAD and take a screenshot. Put that at the end of the financial support PDF.
3. I will mention this in the Cover letter ----> You can include a cover letter/explanation letter from your parent's side addressed to IRCC and explain everything about the grandparents and how your sister will look after them in their absence.

Hope it works
 

roujog

Member
Jun 4, 2019
10
1
I am sorry I thought you did;

1. I'm planning to include very detailed itinerary. Do I need to reserve the tickets?---> You can just reserve where the credit card is not charged until few days before the flight, so you would have an option to cancel/defer it.
2. I can include the conversion in the cover letter ---> You can google any converter to convert the INR to CAD and take a screenshot. Put that at the end of the financial support PDF.
3. I will mention this in the Cover letter ----> You can include a cover letter/explanation letter from your parent's side addressed to IRCC and explain everything about the grandparents and how your sister will look after them in their absence.

Hope it works
Thanks for your suggestions !!
 

canuck78

VIP Member
Jun 18, 2017
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Thanks for your reply. They haven't visited US before. I haven't met the income last year because I only worked in Canada for 3 months from OCT to DEC. This year I will have enough income to support them.
No need to use a consultant or lawyer. A consultant letter certainly doesn’t improve your chances. Unfortunately their application is very weak and you haven’t really established yourself in Canada yet. If they do get rejected your best options will be to wait until next year and apply for a supervisa once you have your NOA that meets LICO.
 
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Bryanna

VIP Member
Sep 8, 2014
14,137
3,120
Hi Guys,
Here is my Background:
Me and my wife moved to Canada from USA in Oct, 2018 on WorkPermit and became PR through Express entry in April 04 2019. I am working as a Software Developer in Toronto with good income.
Now, we are planning to call my parents from India for 3 week visit, below is their background:
- No Properties on their name
- No ITRs. I asked them to stop working and retire in 2014, as soon as I started working in USA.
- My sister is married recently and lives in the same city as my parents.

I am planning to mention below things in the letter while applying visitor visa:
- My parents are taking care of my GrandParents. For this 3 week visit, my sister will be taking care of them. But they have to return back to them as they are very old and sick.
- Rental Agreement with receipts
- 5 lacs balance in their bank account. I am planning to send another 5 lacs next week and we will wait for 3 months before applying for visa and submit 3 month statements.
- Show Gold in bank locker as investment
- I will show 20,000 CAD in my bank account in Canada and mention that I am sponsoring their expenses for their trip
- They already have US tourist Visa. I will prepare itenary covering NY, USA and Toronto, Canada in those 3 weeks.

I know their application looks weak and chances are low, but I want to give it a try. Can you guys please suggest me what else can I do to strengthen it.
1. Do they have a solid purpose to visit the US for a short duration (not for a typical six months' stay)?

2. Their rental agreement is NOT a reason for them to return to India.

3. Their ties to India are only your grandparents. What evidence can they provide to demonstrate that they take care of them?

4. Their financial situation is weak because they don't have any independent source of income, apart from the money that you remit. It's pointless to wait for 3 months before applying for their visas. It's easy to see that the money in their accounts was not earned by them.

5. No previous travel history

6. Do they have purchase receipts for the gold?
 

canuck78

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Jun 18, 2017
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@Bryanna glad to see you are back! People have no idea how lucky they are to have you answer questions since you are so knowledgeable. The rest of us have been trying to answer questions but we are far less knowledgeable.
 
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Bryanna

VIP Member
Sep 8, 2014
14,137
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@Bryanna glad to see you are back! People have no idea how lucky they are to have you answer questions since you are so knowledgeable. The rest of us have been trying to answer questions but we are far less knowledgeable.
Thank you so much @canuck78 for your most kind words. I missed this forum immensely. I'm happy to help anyone that I can.

I lost my mom (she was my best friend too) in unexpected, tragic circumstances (for no apparent medical reason) within 45 minutes. And, needless to say, losing her has affected me and my life tremendously.

My dad has been/continues to be in a critical condition too. These last 1.5 months have been the toughest/most traumatic phase