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halexhowellosuna

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Mar 24, 2019
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hi there!
I'm an American being sponsored by a Canadian spouse.


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Related question - if I visit or if he visits while the application is being processed, a) do we need to keep them updated with the additional crossings and b) how would we do that?
Don't worry about keeping it updated after you submit the application.


1) For the additional family information form - Part A where it says spouse - does he put my name or n/a since I'm a Canadian citizen?
yes- use both of your information here and birthplaces here.

2) I haven't completely changed my name yet on everything - driver's license, utilities have my new surname but passport, credit cards, bank account, SIN does not - is this going to throw them for a loop?
make sure to address/specify this in a cover letter. you will also be listing your maiden name and other names you've used in the documents. They should be able to put it together, though. this won't be the first time. :)

3) There was a question on one of the forms, which I can't find now (of course), which asked if the principal applicant was living with someone and what their relationship was - do roommates count?
I would assume that they mean in a romantic relationship? a roommate probably wouldn't need to be listed.

4) Do the signatures on the forms have to be "printed off and signed" signatures?
yes- they need to be printed off and signed.
However: one of the forms needs to have the PA's name TYPED and then signed (I think it's the application to Canada?)

5) If I understand the glossary definition for family members: for the purpose of these application it's referring to parents, and if we have any children, correct?
It is also to include his siblings, as you might both wish to sponsor them later on. if you do not list them, they can never be sponsored.

6) If you don't pay the full fee (1040) right away, but pay it later as soon as you can, will the application be delayed and by how much?
yes, it can be delayed. there's always a delay in between the time that they send a message, you reply, and then when they can get back to processing your file. for example, it takes ~40 days for them to acknowledge the receipt of the application. I'm not sure if it'll be that long, but if you're in a rush I wouldn't chance it.

7) When mailing in the application, what are some of the "no-no"s? Ie don't bind it, no use of post-it flags to indicate different sections, etc?
don't staple things together. use paperclips or rubber bands. Stack everything in the order that it is requested.

8) Use of a representative form: If I want to be able to talk to immigration on behalf of my husband (say I have questions about whatever might be happening on his side), IF he makes me his representative, that means all the info, everything will go to me, right? But what if we don't want that, we just want the ability to ask our questions directly - do we have to fill out a form?
I believe that use of a representative is for if you are using a lawyer?

9) Does he, as a US citizen, have to submit biometrics? The website has no definitive answers to this.
YES- he must submit biometrics. I'm a US citizen. just completed mine on Friday. it was easy peasy.

10) any documentation, ie birth certificate, that has to be submitted but is not in english, needs to have a certified translation right? What's the best way to do this?
unsure

11) Proof of relationship, not living together: it asks for a max of 10 pages of proof that the sponsor and principal applicant communicated with each other - can we squish (as long as they're legible) as many screenshots of these various interactions on a page? Is there a preferred layout/size? We have 6 (!) years of proof to condense into 10 pages, which is why I'm asking.
I printed off a bunch of emails, a few screen shots from chat conversations, etc. i tried to include some silly stuff, as well as emails to and from his parents. We also included lots of rental car receipts, train tickets, etc. since I drive my car to see him and my passport doesn't get stampled, I addressed this in the cover letter.


12) Proof of relationship, relationship recognized by friends/family: acceptable would be screen shots of our facebook pages showing our relationship status? And what kinds of letters from friends and family? Are there examples somewhere?
I had my sister and mother in-law write us letters. I drafted the letters and they made edits. I described how we met, how we interact, etc. additionally, I attached pictures of us with our friends (some at the wedding, some throughout the years).


13) proof of relationship: there's "fill it out" box at the bottom of the form asking if we have any other proof that our relationship is genuine - I was talking to a former coworker who had also sponsored his wife to be a PR and he mentioned providing receipts from the wedding - is this a good idea? What have other people put?
I used this box as opportunity to describe our relationship, how we've been there for one another over the years, etc.



hopefully this helps--- we got Sponsorship Approval immediately.
hey whoa, hold-up - a cover letter? You can submit a cover letter? Where does this go in the overall package?

Re #5 - he has a sister, who is a US citizen and hasn't shown any interest in immigrating to Canada whatsoever (wouldn't even consider moving out of state for college), ditto with his mother, so...i don't think it'll be an issue.

Re #10 - how/where does he do this biometrics thingie? I think the website is broken because it says choose one of the following and there's NOTHING TO CLICK ON.

Re #12 - Hm. Do they have to sign said letters or can it be a like an email that I print off? Both of our families are spread across North America, so we gotta think about logistics of getting said proof in a reasonable amount of time.
 

halexhowellosuna

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Mar 24, 2019
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I just thought of another question - travel medical insurance - IF he gets accepted for PR, will he need proof of medical insurance before he moves up?
 

timbitpep

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Jan 20, 2019
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Yes, you can do a cover letter that addresses any idiosyncrasies. I just placed it on the of the supplementary documents. It was short and sweet. I'd read of a free others doing this and I thought it was a good option for our situation.


10. You do biometrics at a uscis office. When the website wants to with again, you'll be able to see where he can go. I did mine in Vermont (I live in northern NY)

12. Ours were signed and mailed to me. However, it's probably fine to have it in an email or scanned. If you draft the letters and/or give them a list of bullet points, it'll get done very quickly. The letters aren't mandatory.

hey whoa, hold-up - a cover letter? You can submit a cover letter? Where does this go in the overall package?

Re #5 - he has a sister, who is a US citizen and hasn't shown any interest in immigrating to Canada whatsoever (wouldn't even consider moving out of state for college), ditto with his mother, so...i don't think it'll be an issue.

Re #10 - how/where does he do this biometrics thingie? I think the website is broken because it says choose one of the following and there's NOTHING TO CLICK ON.

Re #12 - Hm. Do they have to sign said letters or can it be a like an email that I print off? Both of our families are spread across North America, so we gotta think about logistics of getting said proof in a reasonable amount of time.
 

timbitpep

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Jan 20, 2019
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FAM
here's our letter:
Dear Officer,

Please find our attached application and supplementary materials.

By this letter we would like to provide additional details about our application for permanent residence under Family Class/Spouse or Common-law Partner in Canada class. We have been married for more than 2 years and would like to live together in Canada. This is why XX is sponsoring XX.

Below is more information about the information provided in the forms.

IMM 5532
4. Visitation Log
Our visits are too numerous to list in the provided space, so we have opted to list our visits by years. Due to our geographic locations being so close to one another (2.5 hours apart), we have had the privilege of visiting one another nearly every weekend for the past four years (~45 weekends per year). We alternate weekends and travel by car and/or train.

As Canadian and US citizens visiting one another's respective countries, a visa is not required. We cross by land, so our passports are not stamped. To further expedite travel across the bother, XX and XX have acquired Nexus cards. So when we have traveled by air together for trips, our passports are no longer stamped when entering Canada or the US as we use the Nexus kiosks.

In our supporting documents (7a), we have provided proof of car rentals and train tickets for XX.

SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS: Proof of Relationship
7a) Proof of travel documents
XX often takes the train from Montreal, QC to XX. X drives to Cornwall, Ontario to pick X up from the train station and drives back to XX. Other times, X rents a car to drive from Montreal, QC to XX. We have provided receipts for rental cars and train tickets. X owns her car, so she does not have rental receipts or train tickets. It is our hope that this will further demonstrate the frequency of our visits.

7e. We have provided letters of support from X's parents and X's sister. We have also provided bank statements for X’s US bank account in X. We have also included a statement for our joint account that includes both of our names (even though we do not live together). To demonstrate X’s presence at this address, we have included a utility bill with her name on it. None of the utilities at X’s are in X’s name.

If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact us. Thank you for your time and consideration.

Sincerely,
both of our info, listing who is Sponsor vs PA.
 

halexhowellosuna

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Mar 24, 2019
30
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here's our letter:
Dear Officer,

Please find our attached application and supplementary materials.

By this letter we would like to provide additional details about our application for permanent residence under Family Class/Spouse or Common-law Partner in Canada class. We have been married for more than 2 years and would like to live together in Canada. This is why XX is sponsoring XX.

Below is more information about the information provided in the forms.

IMM 5532
4. Visitation Log
Our visits are too numerous to list in the provided space, so we have opted to list our visits by years. Due to our geographic locations being so close to one another (2.5 hours apart), we have had the privilege of visiting one another nearly every weekend for the past four years (~45 weekends per year). We alternate weekends and travel by car and/or train.

As Canadian and US citizens visiting one another's respective countries, a visa is not required. We cross by land, so our passports are not stamped. To further expedite travel across the bother, XX and XX have acquired Nexus cards. So when we have traveled by air together for trips, our passports are no longer stamped when entering Canada or the US as we use the Nexus kiosks.

In our supporting documents (7a), we have provided proof of car rentals and train tickets for XX.

SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS: Proof of Relationship
7a) Proof of travel documents
XX often takes the train from Montreal, QC to XX. X drives to Cornwall, Ontario to pick X up from the train station and drives back to XX. Other times, X rents a car to drive from Montreal, QC to XX. We have provided receipts for rental cars and train tickets. X owns her car, so she does not have rental receipts or train tickets. It is our hope that this will further demonstrate the frequency of our visits.

7e. We have provided letters of support from X's parents and X's sister. We have also provided bank statements for X’s US bank account in X. We have also included a statement for our joint account that includes both of our names (even though we do not live together). To demonstrate X’s presence at this address, we have included a utility bill with her name on it. None of the utilities at X’s are in X’s name.

If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact us. Thank you for your time and consideration.

Sincerely,
both of our info, listing who is Sponsor vs PA.
We might have to include something similar. While our drive isn't 2.5 hours (i wish it was), it's not far enough to have any value to justify a flight, nor is there a train that goes either direction (because who goes to Manitoba/Minnesota?) Is it necessary to have a joint account? Does it help or hinder?

so many more questions. I may be overthinking every thing though.
 

timbitpep

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Jan 20, 2019
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NY
Category........
FAM
We might have to include something similar. While our drive isn't 2.5 hours (i wish it was), it's not far enough to have any value to justify a flight, nor is there a train that goes either direction (because who goes to Manitoba/Minnesota?) Is it necessary to have a joint account? Does it help or hinder?

so many more questions. I may be overthinking every thing though.
I feel that SOOOO much. I'm a chronic overthinker, too.

No, you do not need to have a joint account. We just happened to have one and so we figured we might as well include it. Follow the checklist and see what they ask for. There are many options under multiple categories- and the combination of what you submit might vary depending on what you can provide. Sometimes there's overlap. other times not.
 

timbitpep

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Jan 20, 2019
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NY
Category........
FAM
I just thought of another question - travel medical insurance - IF he gets accepted for PR, will he need proof of medical insurance before he moves up?
you're asking a lot of good questions! it's important to think of this stuff. :)

If he does not otherwise have insurance, he will need to get travel insurance. Lest he risk paying out of pocket in case something happens.
In Quebec, they recommend that you have it set up within 5 days of your landing (or before if the circumstance warrants it). I suspect that it is similar for other provinces. But waiting longer apparently makes it much more difficult to be covered.

for example: in my case (unless things move super fast!!), I will be staying in Quebec as a visitor for several months before I can officially land and begin my waiting period. During that time, my work insurance will have expired and so I will take on a Traveler's insurance policy to cover the time period both before and after landing. I will continue to polic(ies) until I am eligible for healthcare (3 months in Quebec).
 
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halexhowellosuna

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Mar 24, 2019
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you're asking a lot of good questions! it's important to think of this stuff. :)

If he does not otherwise have insurance, he will need to get travel insurance. Lest he risk paying out of pocket in case something happens.
In Quebec, they recommend that you have it set up within 5 days of your landing (or before if the circumstance warrants it). I suspect that it is similar for other provinces. But waiting longer apparently makes it much more difficult to be covered.

for example: in my case (unless things move super fast!!), I will be staying in Quebec as a visitor for several months before I can officially land and begin my waiting period. During that time, my work insurance will have expired and so I will take on a Traveler's insurance policy to cover the time period both before and after landing. I will continue to polic(ies) until I am eligible for healthcare (3 months in Quebec).
Huh... so you'll be in Canada as a visitor under implied status? How does this work?

I know for MB (cause I moved from ON to MB), you have to prove that you're a resident of MB in order to get covered - ie utlitiy bill, lease, bank statement, but not cell phone bill because it's self-reported (so is bank but I'm off topic). I found there were more hoops to jump through to get the health card than there was driver's license. :/
 

timbitpep

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Jan 20, 2019
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FAM
I'll just be in Quebec as a visitor. I'm leaving my job at the end of the contract period (June), selling my house, etc. Rather than wait around in the states at my sister's house/etc (no thanks!), I'm going to go stay with my husband.

As long as the border agent trusts that I will leave Canada at the end of my visit, I can enter and remain as a visitor for up to 6 months without a visa or any temporary permit (US citizen!). It's really no different than any other time I cross as a visitor now that my paperwork has been filed.

This is referred to as dual intent. As a US/Canada couple, it doesn't require any additional authorizations. They just have to believe that you won't overstay should you for some reason be denied PR.

Most of my belongings will stay in a storage locker in the states until I land so that I can bring them in tax free and without suspicion of not leaving at the end of my stay. In the meantime, I bring a little bit every weekend.

Omg. Yes, getting access to insurance! They sure don't make it easy- even for Canadians! if there was anything I could do to get insurance sooner, I would. But that wait time can't begin until landing.
 

halexhowellosuna

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Mar 24, 2019
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I'll just be in Quebec as a visitor. I'm leaving my job at the end of the contract period (June), selling my house, etc. Rather than wait around in the states at my sister's house/etc (no thanks!), I'm going to go stay with my husband.

As long as the border agent trusts that I will leave Canada at the end if my visit, I can enter and remain as a visitor for up to 6 months without a visa or any temporary permit (US citizen!). It's really no different than any other time I cross as a visitor now that my paperwork has been filed.

This is referred to as dual intent. As a US/Canada couple, it doesn't require any additional authorizations. They just have to believe that you won't overstay should you for some reason be denied PR.

Most of my belongings will stay in a storage locker in the states until I land so that I can bring them in tax free and without suspicion if not leaving at the end of my stay. In the meantime, I bring a little bit every weekend.

Omg. Yes, getting access to insurance! They sure don't make it easy- even for Canadians! if there was anything I could do to get insurance sooner, I would. But that wait time can't begin until landing.
I'm not sure how this works when your PR application is in process, but we got a lecture about what is needed when you cross as a visitor: sufficient funds in your bank account (proof), a job that you're going back to (or can go back to - a letter saying you're on a leave of absence), medical insurance, a copy of your lease or a letter from someone saying you're living with them...

Just sayin'.
 

halexhowellosuna

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Mar 24, 2019
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Okay, help me out here - is there or is there not a part of a form that asks who the principal applicant is currently living with if you're not living together with the sponsor (spouse)? I could've sworn I saw it somewhere, and now I can't find it.