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August 2018 AOR - join here

Jul 12, 2018
3
1
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
2172
AOR Received.
07-08-2018
Med's Request
27-08-2018
Passport Req..
7-12-2018
how to contact the CIC via call??
 

EmilieTem

Full Member
Aug 19, 2018
25
30
I am in Canada at the moment so I just called their number.
I have to admit I tried 3 times a day during a week and a half before I got to talk to an agent..
 

Abdelilah

Hero Member
Apr 8, 2017
434
149
Calgary
Category........
FSW
NOC Code......
2281
App. Filed.......
19/08/2018
Doc's Request.
07/11/2018
AOR Received.
19/08/2018
LANDED..........
17/02/2019
how to contact the CIC via call??
Using google hangouts :

+1 6139444000 then answer the questions using this pattern :

1-1-1
1-1-2-2
Enter Application No.
Enter Year of Birth
1-0
 

Sunshine41

Star Member
Aug 22, 2018
141
165
Category........
FSW
AOR Received.
04-08-2018
Med's Done....
27-08-2018
I called CIC yesterday.
Agent told me process is done with positive outcome and said congratulations.
Guess all left to do is wait for the PPR email...
Congratulations

I did come across a blog in which the person shared quite detailed explanation of the GCMS notes. In which even though he has passed all the checks, his application was put to notify him of PPR. Which he concluded that they send PPR in batches which makes perfect sense, as people with same IP2 change date got PPR before him while he got after a month or more. CIC let’s you get a idea of knowing the approximate date of Med pass correct but not the PPR.

Sit tight, your PPR is somewhere in one of the batches.
 

p_d2058

Star Member
Jun 11, 2018
102
112
Yes, it seems updates are done in bulk.. Following comment of mine has no backing but just a random suspicion.

The ip2 updates could be an output of the website maintenance which was scheduled yesteday.
Buddy, you are right I think. My friend who hadn’t seen any movement in his account since aug 10 had checked last evening (US time). We carpool back from work together and he had dialed via Skype to know his status while he was in my car (he applied through a consultant so doesn’t have online access to his profile). He hadn’t moved to IP2. He was stuck in MEP since aug 10. I heard the status myself.

This morning, I didn’t go to work but I got a text from him that he has now moved to “BGC started”.

The maintenance must have happened last night (per US time)....and so the status changed.

Question for you folks - he got his RPRF request last week after 3 months of waiting. And today his BGC has started. Verbiage on RPRF request is “admissibility is in progress.”

Is this a good sign?

It’s funny how my profile never even moved to IP2 and the PPR came directly. Can’t comment about RPRF request coz I had paid upfront. It just shows how inconsistent the processes are from person to person.
 

Asiv adanac

Hero Member
Sep 18, 2018
379
314
App. Filed.......
Fsw outland (india)
AOR Received.
03-08-2018
Buddy, you are right I think. My friend who hadn’t seen any movement in his account since aug 10 had checked last evening (US time). We carpool back from work together and he had dialed via Skype to know his status while he was in my car (he applied through a consultant so doesn’t have online access to his profile). He hadn’t moved to IP2. He was stuck in MEP since aug 10. I heard the status myself.

This morning, I didn’t go to work but I got a text from him that he has now moved to “BGC started”.

The maintenance must have happened last night (per US time)....and so the status changed.

Question for you folks - he got his RPRF request last week after 3 months of waiting. And today his BGC has started. Verbiage on RPRF request is “admissibility is in progress.”

Is this a good sign?

It’s funny how my profile never even moved to IP2 and the PPR came directly. Can’t comment about RPRF request coz I had paid upfront. It just shows how inconsistent the processes are from person to person.
Hi, rprf message with a verbiage of ' admissability in progress' is a positive indicator that golden email will be sent across shortly (cantbdefine a timeline). Rprf messages are also sent in bulk, depending upon the different stages applicants.
 
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fahadxuberi

Star Member
Sep 6, 2018
167
69
Dubai, UAE
NOC Code......
1215
AOR Received.
28-08-2018
Hello folks, the below will prove to be a useful resource for everyone who is process of netting a golden email and for the ones who are to begin the process as well. Pls bear in mind that I am not the author of the below content. This valuable piece of info is the hardwork of Legal Falcon.

Quote-:
As per the trends, your eligibility is cleared within the first 5 months and then what is left is the security and criminality. This is for the FSW (outland). For the inland applicants, the process is different, their BGC goes in progress within a few days after they receive the AoR. So its is difficult to predict if it is just a technical issue, or the BGC is initiated sooner in the application.

The anatomy of a standard application is as follows:

1. Enter the EE pool.

2. Receive the ITA.

3. File application and supporting documents.

4. AoR - Automatically acknowledged, usually on the same day as submission.

5. The first step is to check for completeness. This usually triggers the application review "IN PROGRESS." This is done at the Centralized Intake Office (CIO).

6. Next stage is the R10 review. This is the first stringent check of the application against the EE profile you created. The Regulation 10 of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations imposes a strict liability on the applicants to account for all documents uploaded, satisfy what was stated in the EE profile, and ensure that there are no gaps. If you do not provide the documents or they are filed incorrectly, your application can be rejected due to the strict liability on the applicant under this regulation. However, a lot depends on the agent reviewing the file. Under the R 10 review your IELTS, ECA are checked against the websites to ascertain that there is no misrepresentation. (R10 review is done within the 1-3 months of filing the application). If an applicant's age has changed from EE profile to ITA, then the same is recorded and his score determined. There is an exception clause for when the age changes, it keeps the CRS score intact. This is also done at the CIO level. Most of the applications are rejected here because they are incomplete.

7. At the R10 review, if you have any documents missing, the application is rejected, or more time is given to file the document if there is a Letter of Explanation (LoE). It largely depends on the agent reviewing it. Some are brutal and will reject the application even for a minor error.

8. Usually, by this stage, the medicals are also passed. Recently some applicants received request to re-access their medicals when the file reached the Local Visa Office (LVO). I have a theory for this, but in most cases, once the medicals are passed, they are good until the final review stage. The applicants who received a reassesment for the medicals could be because of two reasons:
a. The doctor or the facility which examined them had a complaint against it, or the CIC found something fishy about how things were being conducted there; or
b. The medicals did not disclose the required parameters, or the applicant had an underlying medical issue, which the CIC wanted to get re-assessed.

8. Now the next stage is to determine eligibility, i.e. whether the application meets the program prerequisites under which it is filed. For FSW, your experience, letters of reference, education, etc are in order. For the PNP, FSW and your nomination is present, for CEC, your Canadian experience is on file. And, so on so forth for the other categories. The objective here is to review whether you meet the program threshold and what you claim is correct. If there is any suspicion, or things don't sound good, the agent can send your application for further review. Which includes an interview, extra doc request etc. If the applicant meets the requirements, and his score is over the cut off for the ITA she received, his eligibility is passed. If there are issues, they will be addressed. This usually happens at the LVO. This stage happens when the application is usually 4-5 months into the process. At this stage, if the eligibility is met, the chances of refusal considerably go down, unless there is a criminal history. However, if your score goes down due to CIC not acknowledging your experience, NOC and reference letters not matching, or a change in age, the application is rejected.

9. As soon as the eligibility is met, next comes the security and criminality (or background check). Usually the criminality is met through the Police Clearance Certificates (PCC) uploaded with the application. If the applicant has been to a country which is suspicious, or your travel history does show frequent visits to a country without any explanation, the same are recorded and evaluated. If things look good, your criminality is passed. A lot of applicants receive a request for Schedule A at this stage to ensure no gap time is present and the history is clear.

10. The last and the final stage is the security. This is a serious & time-consuming stage, involving many agencies, including Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS), International Police (INTERPOL), Criminal Database Checking & touch-base with Local Police. Many things are considered here. Number of countries visited, Applicant coming from 'certain' countries, past law enforcement or military record, Prolonged stay in a country w/out sufficient docs to prove cause, frequent traveling to certain nations, your *Name (?), Inter-Religion/Nationality Marriages etc. If everything is simple & straight, the file soon gets into the 'final review' stage. If there are any 'red flags', the case goes into a 'spin'. Then the file might go to the local Police/intelligence agencies; the outcome/timeframe of which is beyond the control of CIC. And thereby the timeframe can be anything [sometimes beyond 1yr]. But, usually this stage should be over within 1-2 months. However, a point to be noted is that the applicant can also be called for an Interview [at this stage], due to this reason. For some people the security has a quick turn around. But in the last two weeks a lot of applicants are stuck at this stage.

11. At the final review, when the security results come in, the PPR is issued.

Now, this is NO way is a generalization of the process. Some applications are processed much faster, some are slow. This is what I could gather from my GCMS notes, my experience with dealing with the immigration authorities in US on behalf of my clients and my personal EE application, which was filed in Sep 15' and approved in April 15.

This is only for information to provide a picture about the process, but CIC has never disclosed their processing procedure. However, looking into some immigration cases, and the information through the GCMS notes available on the forum, this is the best generalization I could come up with. Albeit, for some applicants the criminality is done before the eligibility is checked, for other after. So please don't debate as to how one case you saw was different from what I have stated.

This is just an overview. If you do not find it appealing, just ignore it. If it was up to me, I would process all applications much faster.

But, this is a long wait and probably the most important decision you will make in your life. Be optimistic, helpful and supportive of others. This forum is an excellent resource for many, so even when you receive your PPR, please hang on for a few more months and update your timelines and answer any questions other applicants may have. Don't be a parasite.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask.

Unquote-:

I'm getting a positive feeling after reading this.
2 weeks back when I called up CIC, I was informed that my eligibility was met and security was in process. If this is the final step then I hope it gets done soon.

Thanks mate
 

JohnsonRock

Full Member
Nov 15, 2018
44
16
Michigan
Category........
FSW
NOC Code......
2174
AOR Received.
17-10-2018
Hello, I hold indian passport and my kids hold US passports. I After the PPR, I sent their passports as well along with mine. I was supposed to send only photocopy of my kids’ passports as they hold US passports. I did not send the photocopy. Has anyone faced this? Will this cause any issue?
Hi, as per my understanding, there shouldn't be any serious issue, and you should get all passports back once process is completed. However, I'd strongly advice you to call and talk to them about it. ATB!
 

Asiv adanac

Hero Member
Sep 18, 2018
379
314
App. Filed.......
Fsw outland (india)
AOR Received.
03-08-2018
I secured the below information during my conversation with the IRCC client support agent.

Regarding IRCC holidays
They will be on holidays on December 25th, 26th and January 1st. A slight delay of 1 or 2 days may occur for processing files. Not all of them are entitled for 2 weeks holidays. I was assured that there wouldnt be a noteable delay cuz of this. So my very dear fellow Augustiers can relax regarding this matter.

Regarding the background check

Your cpc (ottawa in my case) hands over the background check to a third party and they commence further action but cpc yet remains the same.


Regarding the million dollar question-: Who sends the ppr mail? Is it the cpc or vo?

Answer-: it is Ottawa sending pprs.



******NOTE**** -:

Those folks who yet plan on attempting to contact ircc client support agents, I would request you guys to ask few queries on behalf of our fellow mates seeking for answers here and accordingly revert back to them. This will help reduce or limit burden on the volume of calls for eitherside, be a learning and symbiotic experience and above all, save all of us a lotta time.

Cheers!! All the best!!

Good luck, May god bless us all and cheers!!!
 
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Getmeouttahereuk

Full Member
Jan 6, 2018
39
15
Hi all, glad to read I'm not the only one who keeps wanting to know how their application is getting on. I think I'm going to attempt to call IRCC now and see if I can get an update.

Do you think most will have their PR before Feb? I just wish there was a fixed date I could work off and then I could
 
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Asiv adanac

Hero Member
Sep 18, 2018
379
314
App. Filed.......
Fsw outland (india)
AOR Received.
03-08-2018
Hi all, glad to read I'm not the only one who keeps wanting to know how their application is getting on. I think I'm going to attempt to call IRCC now and see if I can get an update.

Do you think most will have their PR before Feb? I just wish there was a fixed date I could work off and then I could
Hi, as IRCC attempts to complete most of the cases in process within 6 months so a majority of Augustiers would have recieved their golden email either before or by February or March.
 

MAK2018

Full Member
Sep 17, 2018
35
37
Hello folks, the below will prove to be a useful resource for everyone who is process of netting a golden email and for the ones who are to begin the process as well. Pls bear in mind that I am not the author of the below content. This valuable piece of info is the hardwork of Legal Falcon.

Quote-:
As per the trends, your eligibility is cleared within the first 5 months and then what is left is the security and criminality. This is for the FSW (outland). For the inland applicants, the process is different, their BGC goes in progress within a few days after they receive the AoR. So its is difficult to predict if it is just a technical issue, or the BGC is initiated sooner in the application.

The anatomy of a standard application is as follows:

1. Enter the EE pool.

2. Receive the ITA.

3. File application and supporting documents.

4. AoR - Automatically acknowledged, usually on the same day as submission.

5. The first step is to check for completeness. This usually triggers the application review "IN PROGRESS." This is done at the Centralized Intake Office (CIO).

6. Next stage is the R10 review. This is the first stringent check of the application against the EE profile you created. The Regulation 10 of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations imposes a strict liability on the applicants to account for all documents uploaded, satisfy what was stated in the EE profile, and ensure that there are no gaps. If you do not provide the documents or they are filed incorrectly, your application can be rejected due to the strict liability on the applicant under this regulation. However, a lot depends on the agent reviewing the file. Under the R 10 review your IELTS, ECA are checked against the websites to ascertain that there is no misrepresentation. (R10 review is done within the 1-3 months of filing the application). If an applicant's age has changed from EE profile to ITA, then the same is recorded and his score determined. There is an exception clause for when the age changes, it keeps the CRS score intact. This is also done at the CIO level. Most of the applications are rejected here because they are incomplete.

7. At the R10 review, if you have any documents missing, the application is rejected, or more time is given to file the document if there is a Letter of Explanation (LoE). It largely depends on the agent reviewing it. Some are brutal and will reject the application even for a minor error.

8. Usually, by this stage, the medicals are also passed. Recently some applicants received request to re-access their medicals when the file reached the Local Visa Office (LVO). I have a theory for this, but in most cases, once the medicals are passed, they are good until the final review stage. The applicants who received a reassesment for the medicals could be because of two reasons:
a. The doctor or the facility which examined them had a complaint against it, or the CIC found something fishy about how things were being conducted there; or
b. The medicals did not disclose the required parameters, or the applicant had an underlying medical issue, which the CIC wanted to get re-assessed.

8. Now the next stage is to determine eligibility, i.e. whether the application meets the program prerequisites under which it is filed. For FSW, your experience, letters of reference, education, etc are in order. For the PNP, FSW and your nomination is present, for CEC, your Canadian experience is on file. And, so on so forth for the other categories. The objective here is to review whether you meet the program threshold and what you claim is correct. If there is any suspicion, or things don't sound good, the agent can send your application for further review. Which includes an interview, extra doc request etc. If the applicant meets the requirements, and his score is over the cut off for the ITA she received, his eligibility is passed. If there are issues, they will be addressed. This usually happens at the LVO. This stage happens when the application is usually 4-5 months into the process. At this stage, if the eligibility is met, the chances of refusal considerably go down, unless there is a criminal history. However, if your score goes down due to CIC not acknowledging your experience, NOC and reference letters not matching, or a change in age, the application is rejected.

9. As soon as the eligibility is met, next comes the security and criminality (or background check). Usually the criminality is met through the Police Clearance Certificates (PCC) uploaded with the application. If the applicant has been to a country which is suspicious, or your travel history does show frequent visits to a country without any explanation, the same are recorded and evaluated. If things look good, your criminality is passed. A lot of applicants receive a request for Schedule A at this stage to ensure no gap time is present and the history is clear.

10. The last and the final stage is the security. This is a serious & time-consuming stage, involving many agencies, including Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS), International Police (INTERPOL), Criminal Database Checking & touch-base with Local Police. Many things are considered here. Number of countries visited, Applicant coming from 'certain' countries, past law enforcement or military record, Prolonged stay in a country w/out sufficient docs to prove cause, frequent traveling to certain nations, your *Name (?), Inter-Religion/Nationality Marriages etc. If everything is simple & straight, the file soon gets into the 'final review' stage. If there are any 'red flags', the case goes into a 'spin'. Then the file might go to the local Police/intelligence agencies; the outcome/timeframe of which is beyond the control of CIC. And thereby the timeframe can be anything [sometimes beyond 1yr]. But, usually this stage should be over within 1-2 months. However, a point to be noted is that the applicant can also be called for an Interview [at this stage], due to this reason. For some people the security has a quick turn around. But in the last two weeks a lot of applicants are stuck at this stage.

11. At the final review, when the security results come in, the PPR is issued.

Now, this is NO way is a generalization of the process. Some applications are processed much faster, some are slow. This is what I could gather from my GCMS notes, my experience with dealing with the immigration authorities in US on behalf of my clients and my personal EE application, which was filed in Sep 15' and approved in April 15.

This is only for information to provide a picture about the process, but CIC has never disclosed their processing procedure. However, looking into some immigration cases, and the information through the GCMS notes available on the forum, this is the best generalization I could come up with. Albeit, for some applicants the criminality is done before the eligibility is checked, for other after. So please don't debate as to how one case you saw was different from what I have stated.

This is just an overview. If you do not find it appealing, just ignore it. If it was up to me, I would process all applications much faster.

But, this is a long wait and probably the most important decision you will make in your life. Be optimistic, helpful and supportive of others. This forum is an excellent resource for many, so even when you receive your PPR, please hang on for a few more months and update your timelines and answer any questions other applicants may have. Don't be a parasite.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask.

Unquote-:
Good Job !!!
 

anirudy

Star Member
Aug 24, 2018
60
60
Congratulations bro. We share a similar timeline. I've not heard anything after 26th August. Currently I'm in IP1 stage. Movement on ur file definitely gives me hope to see some positive development on my file in coming weeks.

Hope you recieve your golden email soon. All the best.
Thank you! Wishing you all the best as well!