PR card expired , no PRTD can I travel with a valid eta ?

[Alien_walkingalone]

Hello I am submitting this question behalf of my friend , his PR card expired long time ago , no PRTD , but being a USA resident he has a valid ETA , can he fly Canada with that? It’s been 10 years he left Canada though.

 

[Bs65]

How did your friend get an ETA given as PR it should have been rejected. Only PR cards expire, PR status never expires and there have been people here with PR status from 30 years ago who were surprised when applying for an ETA who were rejected. Even after all that time a rejection so for sure after 10 years should have been rejected.

At check in they should see your friend as a PR and expect either a valid card or a PRTD, only exception sometimes are US passport holders but they cannot get an ETA anyway.

By US resident you mean a green card holder, citizen or what ?

 

[Alien_walkingalone]

How did your friend get an ETA given as PR it should have been rejected. Only PR cards expire, PR status never expires and there have been people here with PR status from 30 years ago who were surprised when applying for an ETA who were rejected. Even after all that time a rejection so for sure after 10 years should have been rejected.

At check in they should see your friend as a PR and expect either a valid card or a PRTD, only exception sometimes are US passport holders but they cannot get an ETA anyway.

By US resident you mean a green card holder, citizen or what ?

He is a green card holder. First he applied for Canadian visitor visa from his home country which was closed with a message that “ we understood that you are a US permanent resident and such as you are eligible to apply for an ETA”. Then he applied for it received it with the validity of 3 years , now he wishes to travel Canada with that . But my concern is will he face any difficulties like as would the PEO ask him about his expired PR card even though he doesn’t mention about it ?

 

[scylla]

He is a green card holder. First he applied for Canadian visitor visa from his home country which was closed with a message that “ we understood that you are a US permanent resident and such as you are eligible to apply for an ETA”. Then he applied for it received it with the validity of 3 years , now he wishes to travel Canada with that . But my concern is will he face any difficulties like as would the PEO ask him about his expired PR card even though he doesn’t mention about it ?

It doesn't work that way. ETA process won't grant an ETA to someone who is still classified as a PR. It doesn't just base this on the applicant's answers - it compares this info against a database. I suspect at some point he actually lost his PR status officially or it was officially revoked. That would explain why the ETA was approved.

 

[Alien_walkingalone]

Scylla , I think he was approved the eta based on usa resident , Just for visiting can my friend enter canada? he has applied for prtd but didnt receive as he didnt continue his pr status and never reclaimed it within last 10 years. being an usa greencard holder he got his eta approved. so will it be a problem at airport. please suggest.

 

[scylla]

Scylla , I think he was approved the eta based on usa resident , Just for visiting can my friend enter canada? he has applied for prtd but didnt receive as he didnt continue his pr status and never reclaimed it within last 10 years. being an usa greencard holder he got his eta approved. so will it be a problem at airport. please suggest.

Again, US residency is not the sole qualifying factor for eTAs. The system is supposed to verify that an individual is not a PR. We've had people here find out they are PRs who didn't know it until they tried applying for an eTAs.

Impossible for any of us to say if he will have issues at the border. If he's still a PR, then he does not qualify for an eTA. There's certainly a possible element of misrepresentation here since he's aware of his PR status. Hard to say what will happen. If he wants to make sure he doesn't have issues, he should apply to officially renounce his PR status asap.

 

[Buletruck]

hehas applied for prtd but didnt receive as he didnt continue his pr status

If they have previously applied for a PRTD and it was refused, I would think there is a significant possibility they have had their PR status revoked (unless they appealed after the PRTD refusal).

 

[Alien_walkingalone]

He was not physically present in Canada for two years in five years , so his pr status just expired , while he applied for visitor visa he was denied and said as he is a us resident he doens need a visistor visa but eta , so he got his eta with the validity of 3 years , so what would we understand from that ? Any help , he already got his air ticket planning to fly in this month , any suggestions please how to clear this situation?

 

[canuck_in_uk]

He was not physically present in Canada for two years in five years , so his pr status just expired , while he applied for visitor visa he was denied and said as he is a us resident he doens need a visistor visa but eta , so he got his eta with the validity of 3 years , so what would we understand from that ? Any help , he already got his air ticket planning to fly in this month , any suggestions please how to clear this situation?

You stated he applied for a PRTD and it was refused, presumably for failing to meet the RO. If so, the refusal would have told him to appeal or his PR status would be revoked.

Your friend really should be aware of all of this.

 

[scylla]

You stated he applied for a PRTD and it was refused, presumably for failing to meet the RO. If so, the refusal would have told him to appeal or his PR status would be revoked.

Your friend really should be aware of all of this.

Ah - yeah - that would explain it. Agreed he officially lost his PR status when the PRTD was refused. That's why the eTA was granted. So he'll have no issues entering Canada. But his PR status is gone.

 

[Alien_walkingalone]

He told me he was a minor when he left Canada and his dad never let him go back to Canada so after finishing his study in usa he went back to his home country and now planned to go to Canada for visit purpose , he told me he didn’t apply for prtd and he doesn’t even know anything more about his pr status only he knows that his pr card expired that’s it and his pr was issued in 2008 so it’s almost 10 years now . Now he tried to get a tourist visa then cic told him he is eligible for an eta as he is a us resident so he applied and got approved. Now main concern is if he enter to the airport what the PEO would ask her ? Will he enter as a tourist or would mention his previous story ? That’s what he wanted to know. Thanks a lot in advanced

 

[scylla]

He told me he was a minor when he left Canada and his dad never let him go back to Canada so after finishing his study in usa he went back to his home country and now planned to go to Canada for visit purpose , he told me he didn’t apply for prtd and he doesn’t even know anything more about his pr status only he knows that his pr card expired that’s it and his pr was issued in 2008 so it’s almost 10 years now . Now he tried to get a tourist visa then cic told him he is eligible for eta as he is a us resident so he applied and got approved. Now main concern is if he enter to the airport what the PEO would ask her ? Will he enter as a tourist or would mention his previous story ? That’s what he wanted to know. Thanks a lot in advanced

Your question has already been answered.

If he still has PR status, he should not have been issued an eTA.

None of us can tell you if he will have issues at the border or not.

If he wants to avoid problems, he should officially renounce his PR status. That's the only way to guarantee he won't have problems.

 

[canuck_in_uk]

He told me he was a minor when he left Canada and his dad never let him go back to Canada so after finishing his study in usa he went back to his home country and now planned to go to Canada for visit purpose , he told me he didn’t apply for prtd and he doesn’t even know anything more about his pr status only he knows that his pr card expired that’s it and his pr was issued in 2008 so it’s almost 10 years now . Now he tried to get a tourist visa then cic told him he is eligible for an eta as he is a us resident so he applied and got approved. Now main concern is if he enter to the airport what the PEO would ask her ? Will he enter as a tourist or would mention his previous story ? That’s what he wanted to know. Thanks a lot in advanced

You stated previously that he applied for a PRTD and now you are stating that he didn't. I suggest you tell your friend to create an account and give the actual story.

 

[Alien_walkingalone]

You stated previously that he applied for a PRTD and now you are stating that he didn't. I suggest you tell your friend to create an account and give the actual story.

Sorry , in the beginning he didn’t understand now he told me he never applied , I gave him this link of conversation so now he can read and reply which will be helpful for him. Thank you all for your kind prompt reply.

 

[canuck78]

He should also ask if his family applied for something.