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legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
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9,897
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Hello Legalfalcon,

I just found out after talking to my father today that he tried to apply for permanent residency for Canada where I was included as a dependent and he got a refusal. The refusal came in 2007 according to him. He never mentioned this to me before until I asked him about it today. He also tried to apply again through a lawyer but he has no idea whether his application is submitted or what happened to it.

This is really scaring me because I have been answering the question about visa refusal and such in all my application: study, work, visitor and PR as "No" cause I had no idea. Obviously I sent a CSE again. I am really scared with all this CSE and security being already done I will be rejected for misrepresentation. When you try your best to do it right and this is what happens.

What do you think is going to happen? Will I be rejected?
Your father's application for PR, where you were a dependent will have no bearing on your application and there was no need to file a CSE either.
 

nomad777

Full Member
Jan 29, 2016
44
4
Your father's application for PR, where you were a dependent will have no bearing on your application and there was no need to file a CSE either.
Thank you for your reply Legalfalcon. I panicked and sent them CSE. I have waited for PNP for around a year and now waiting for PR for more than a year and I really don't want to go through this difficult journey again. So I am making sure my application is solid. If I get PR I just want to have peace in mind knowing there is nothing wrong with the way I got my PR.
 

jd13k

Full Member
Jan 31, 2018
35
8
You will receive the certificate by post. Don’t worry you’ll receive it before you submit your e-APR. Also upload Schedule 4.
thanks for your reply imxty. But can u tell me after how many days did u receive the post from Ontario? was it by courier? Or can i proceed with the the confirmation letter that i got from CIC itself and attach with the ITA documents?
 

iamxty

Champion Member
Mar 13, 2017
2,341
4,309
Singapore
Category........
PNP
NOC Code......
2174
App. Filed.......
09-07-2017
Nomination.....
01-08-2017
AOR Received.
07-09-2017
File Transfer...
04-11-2017
Passport Req..
08-03-2018
thanks for your reply imxty. But can u tell me after how many days did u receive the post from Ontario? was it by courier? Or can i proceed with the the confirmation letter that i got from CIC itself and attach with the ITA documents?
I got it in 2 days. Nomination on Tuesday night, got the certificate on Thursday evening. I live in SG.

Not sure if you can upload the letter from CIC account since I uploaded my certificate. Maybe you can raise CSE later when you got the certificate, or CIC will send you an ADR for it.
 

cnrp

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Jul 28, 2017
78
259
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1221
App. Filed.......
27-07-2017
AOR Received.
13-12-2017
Dear @legalfalcon ,

Still I'm unable to find an answer to my question, could you please make a comment on this?

"What does Inadmissibility for failing to comply with A27(2) or A28. A41(b) means, which you bring it up as the answer for Referred to RA for review
Please note that, Medical Check, Criminality, Security “not started” but only info sharing with USA according to GCMS notes"

AOR Dec 13, no updates on MEDS yet but BC looks like IP1 and Review of additional documents is 1We do not need additional documents.

Thank you!
 

Nobatia

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Aug 20, 2017
252
240
United Arab Emirates
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
2281
App. Filed.......
29-12-2017
AOR Received.
29-12-2017
Med's Done....
15-01-2018
Passport Req..
02-05-2018
VISA ISSUED...
03-06-2018
LANDED..........
13-10-2018
Hi again legalfalcon,

Reference to the Police certificates required documents section:
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/publications-manuals/operational-bulletins-manuals/permanent-residence/express-entry/applications-received-on-after-january-1-2016-completeness-check.html
Police certificates are required up front and are mandatory for each country (except Canada) where an individual has lived for a total of six months or more. This instruction is for the purpose of the completeness check under section R10. However, it is always at an officer’s discretion to request a new or additional police certificate.
I'm concerned about this, as I was under the impression that the requirement for PCC was for either the last 10 years or since the 18th birthday. I must have confused it with the Travel History requirement. :(

The country I'm worried about is my home country, which I used to travel to occasionally but I have not visited for the past 10 years or so.
As of now, I'm still not sure if my travel history will add up to more than 6 months since my 18th birthday, so I am going to go check if I still have my older passport(s) from that time.

But in case that my total time adds to more than 6 months, what action do you think I should take? Do I try and get the PCC as soon as possible and update IRCC with it? Is that possible, and will they accept that?

I am currently in NA2 stage of my application.

Thanks for your advise in advance.
 

Coming-canada

Full Member
Oct 27, 2017
44
9
Dears ,

where could be my application is standing as per your knowledge . Ontario PNP - AOR 27-Nov-2017 -Medical 18th- Dec-2017

Application status We are processing your application. We will send you a message when there is an update or if we need more information from
Review of eligibility We are reviewing whether you meet the eligibility requirements.
Review of medical results You passed the medical exam.
Review of additional documents We do not need additional documents.
Interview You do not need an interview. We will send you a message if this changes.
Biometrics We do not need your fingerprints. We will send you a message if this changes.
Background check Not applicable.
Final decision Your application is in progress. We will send you a message once the final decision has been made.
 

jd13k

Full Member
Jan 31, 2018
35
8
I got it in 2 days. Nomination on Tuesday night, got the certificate on Thursday evening. I live in SG.

Not sure if you can upload the letter from CIC account since I uploaded my certificate. Maybe you can raise CSE later when you got the certificate, or CIC will send you an ADR for it.
now Im a little worried...I even mailed Ontario asking for a copy by email..but i think they only send post...does it come by courier?
 

nomad777

Full Member
Jan 29, 2016
44
4
Your father's application for PR, where you were a dependent will have no bearing on your application and there was no need to file a CSE either.
Hello Legalfalcon,
I was going through my OINP application and I found I answered 'No' to this question:

"Have you, your spouse or common-law partner, or any of your dependent children, already submitted or been included in an Application for
Permanent Residence to Citizenship and Immigration Canada (CIC)?"

Since I already sent CSE about not mentioning my father's PR application refusal where I was dependent for my Express Entry PR submission, do I have to also inform them about this mistake for my OINP application? I used my OINP nomination to get ITA hence worried.
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,040
9,897
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
@legalfalcon,

My application is submitted and in progress, How to amend it?
If you have submitted your application post ITA you cannot amend it. However, you can raise a CSE and send updated PoF.
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,040
9,897
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Dear @legalfalcon ,

Still I'm unable to find an answer to my question, could you please make a comment on this?

"What does Inadmissibility for failing to comply with A27(2) or A28. A41(b) means, which you bring it up as the answer for Referred to RA for review
Please note that, Medical Check, Criminality, Security “not started” but only info sharing with USA according to GCMS notes"

AOR Dec 13, no updates on MEDS yet but BC looks like IP1 and Review of additional documents is 1We do not need additional documents.

Thank you!


41 A person is inadmissible for failing to comply with this Act

  • (a) in the case of a foreign national, through an act or omission which contravenes, directly or indirectly, a provision of this Act; and
(b) in the case of a permanent resident, through failing to comply with subsection 27(2) or section 28.

This is what s41 states. However, to ascertain what is exactly relevant to you, can you post the relevant part of your GCMS notes.
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,040
9,897
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Hi again legalfalcon,

Reference to the Police certificates required documents section:
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/publications-manuals/operational-bulletins-manuals/permanent-residence/express-entry/applications-received-on-after-january-1-2016-completeness-check.html


I'm concerned about this, as I was under the impression that the requirement for PCC was for either the last 10 years or since the 18th birthday. I must have confused it with the Travel History requirement. :(

The country I'm worried about is my home country, which I used to travel to occasionally but I have not visited for the past 10 years or so.
As of now, I'm still not sure if my travel history will add up to more than 6 months since my 18th birthday, so I am going to go check if I still have my older passport(s) from that time.

But in case that my total time adds to more than 6 months, what action do you think I should take? Do I try and get the PCC as soon as possible and update IRCC with it? Is that possible, and will they accept that?

I am currently in NA2 stage of my application.

Thanks for your advise in advance.
If you have lived in your home country for more than 6 months, then your should get a PCC and update ASAP. If you have not, then no need to worry. If you are unsure, then better to have it then not.
 
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legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,040
9,897
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Dears ,

where could be my application is standing as per your knowledge . Ontario PNP - AOR 27-Nov-2017 -Medical 18th- Dec-2017

Application status We are processing your application. We will send you a message when there is an update or if we need more information from
Review of eligibility We are reviewing whether you meet the eligibility requirements.
Review of medical results You passed the medical exam.
Review of additional documents We do not need additional documents.
Interview You do not need an interview. We will send you a message if this changes.
Biometrics We do not need your fingerprints. We will send you a message if this changes.
Background check Not applicable.
Final decision Your application is in progress. We will send you a message once the final decision has been made.
This is your MyCIC status and it has no relevance to what stage of the application process you are at. If you are concerned about the status, you should order GCMS notes. or you can wait.

To read on different stages of application processing see
https://www.getgcms.com/blog/express-entry-application-processed/