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August AOR 2017

gsohi2011

Hero Member
May 30, 2015
267
77
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
New Delhi
NOC Code......
2273
App. Filed.......
30-08-2017
AOR Received.
30-08-2017
File Transfer...
27-10-2017
Passport Req..
28-12-2017
LANDED..........
01-04-2018
Hello everyone,
Today I received an update
My additional document section changed to we do not need additional documents

My timeline
AOR Aug 9
MEP 19 Aug
IP 1 - 21 Aug
NA2- 28 Aug
Today the additional document section changed from BEING REVIEWED TO NOT NEEDED
But Bgc is not applicable

How long still will it take for PPR ....
Forwarded from another thread.
The files which follow the CIO-LVO route go through following stages-

1) Medicals are passed at CIO, this happened around 20-30 days post AOR for June/July applicants. This is mostly the day the file is opened for the first time.

2) Around the 1-2 day your medicals are cleared, your IP1 starts. On this day, a program assistant checks your file for preliminary R10 (documents completeness check) and criminality and forwards it to a senior Agent for final check. The program assistant writes his comments on the file, if all seems fine he will mention "recommended: pass", if there is some doubt he will mention "review required". After this AGENT checks the file again and passes R10 and criminality for good. For files stuck in long IP1s a review required could be cause of delay.

3) Background check changes back to NA (NA2)- After the agent passes R10 and criminality, the BGC changes from IP1 to "not applicable" (NA2).
This might happen on the same day within an hour or might take few days, depending on case by case basis. So basically the medical pass, R10 pass and criminality pass are all done in a matter of 2-3 days if all is fine with the file.

4) After this the file is put on hold for around 30-40 days at CIO. (NA2 phase).

5) After 30-40 days in NA2, the file is opened again to check eligibility at CIO Sydney. The AGENT checks all the criteria for eligibility, FSW, CRS, Education, IELTS, Employment letter etc. If all seems good the Eligibility is Met. This all happens mostly in one day and the very same day file is transferred within seconds to the Local Visa Office, as the file is transferred the eligibility changes from "MET" to "Not started" again. This is the time when we get "not needed" in our additional docs section.
All the above 5 steps take place at CIO, so above are the checks that happen at CIO. So at CIO R10, criminality and primary Eligibility are done.

6) Now to LVO:-
After the file is at LVO, it depends completely on the concerned LVO and Visa Officer as to when they open your file, which might take from 15-100 days from transfer.
After someone opens your file at the LVO, your eligibility is checked again (this is when IP2 starts) (Eligibility is checked twice overall, once primary check at CIO and then again at LVO). Now it depends on the Visa Officer that if he chooses to rely on the CIO AGENT's check and passes eligibility by merely reviewing the old check, or he/she might chose to check the eligibility in detail again. Most Visa Officers go by the recommendation of the CIO AGENT and do this check as a mere formality, but some Visa Officers might do further verifications on Employment etc., or ask for additional docs, in case they find something doubtful or sometimes just random quality checks. So it all depends on the Visa Officer, once satisfied with this, the Visa Officer changes eligibility to "pass". The the Visa Officer checks and finalises the security and approves the file. After approval the file is sent to be issued a PPR.
So basically the eligibility is checked again and all other checks are reviewed and the file is approved at LVO. So its over all final review of the case, how deep a Visa Officer goes in the case to do that is completely his prerogative and his personal view of the case. All this might happen in a few hours, and might even take many days. Sometimes a file is opened and checked for few checks and the again closed, in such cases files keep on hanging until and unless the Visa Officer choses to come back and open it again. Sometimes some files are randomly chosen for security screening, which might delay files for many months. So these two reasons result in very long IP2s. Also some file have "review required" in Eligibility at CIO, those files also might go under serious checks by the Visa Officer, this might also delay a bit. So at LVO mostly, detailed second Eligibility check is done and passed, security is cleared and over all review of file is done and PPR issued.
Hence this is what happens at LVO. Basically guys, as long as your file is in NA, it most likely is gathering dust, no one is even looking at the file. For an ideal case with no complications, it takes maximum 4-5 actual working days per file. This is the actual time that is devoted to a file, rest of the days the file is just lying waiting for an officer to open and check it.

Sorry for the long post, I wanted to include as much detail of the process so that everyone actually knows what happens with our files.
This information is based on information from a number of GCMS Notes and history of previous cases. I claim to be no expert, so if someone has any further info please share or correct.
 

Simi7

Full Member
Sep 18, 2017
40
35
Forwarded from another thread.
The files which follow the CIO-LVO route go through following stages-

1) Medicals are passed at CIO, this happened around 20-30 days post AOR for June/July applicants. This is mostly the day the file is opened for the first time.

2) Around the 1-2 day your medicals are cleared, your IP1 starts. On this day, a program assistant checks your file for preliminary R10 (documents completeness check) and criminality and forwards it to a senior Agent for final check. The program assistant writes his comments on the file, if all seems fine he will mention "recommended: pass", if there is some doubt he will mention "review required". After this AGENT checks the file again and passes R10 and criminality for good. For files stuck in long IP1s a review required could be cause of delay.

3) Background check changes back to NA (NA2)- After the agent passes R10 and criminality, the BGC changes from IP1 to "not applicable" (NA2).
This might happen on the same day within an hour or might take few days, depending on case by case basis. So basically the medical pass, R10 pass and criminality pass are all done in a matter of 2-3 days if all is fine with the file.

4) After this the file is put on hold for around 30-40 days at CIO. (NA2 phase).

5) After 30-40 days in NA2, the file is opened again to check eligibility at CIO Sydney. The AGENT checks all the criteria for eligibility, FSW, CRS, Education, IELTS, Employment letter etc. If all seems good the Eligibility is Met. This all happens mostly in one day and the very same day file is transferred within seconds to the Local Visa Office, as the file is transferred the eligibility changes from "MET" to "Not started" again. This is the time when we get "not needed" in our additional docs section.
All the above 5 steps take place at CIO, so above are the checks that happen at CIO. So at CIO R10, criminality and primary Eligibility are done.

6) Now to LVO:-
After the file is at LVO, it depends completely on the concerned LVO and Visa Officer as to when they open your file, which might take from 15-100 days from transfer.
After someone opens your file at the LVO, your eligibility is checked again (this is when IP2 starts) (Eligibility is checked twice overall, once primary check at CIO and then again at LVO). Now it depends on the Visa Officer that if he chooses to rely on the CIO AGENT's check and passes eligibility by merely reviewing the old check, or he/she might chose to check the eligibility in detail again. Most Visa Officers go by the recommendation of the CIO AGENT and do this check as a mere formality, but some Visa Officers might do further verifications on Employment etc., or ask for additional docs, in case they find something doubtful or sometimes just random quality checks. So it all depends on the Visa Officer, once satisfied with this, the Visa Officer changes eligibility to "pass". The the Visa Officer checks and finalises the security and approves the file. After approval the file is sent to be issued a PPR.
So basically the eligibility is checked again and all other checks are reviewed and the file is approved at LVO. So its over all final review of the case, how deep a Visa Officer goes in the case to do that is completely his prerogative and his personal view of the case. All this might happen in a few hours, and might even take many days. Sometimes a file is opened and checked for few checks and the again closed, in such cases files keep on hanging until and unless the Visa Officer choses to come back and open it again. Sometimes some files are randomly chosen for security screening, which might delay files for many months. So these two reasons result in very long IP2s. Also some file have "review required" in Eligibility at CIO, those files also might go under serious checks by the Visa Officer, this might also delay a bit. So at LVO mostly, detailed second Eligibility check is done and passed, security is cleared and over all review of file is done and PPR issued.
Hence this is what happens at LVO. Basically guys, as long as your file is in NA, it most likely is gathering dust, no one is even looking at the file. For an ideal case with no complications, it takes maximum 4-5 actual working days per file. This is the actual time that is devoted to a file, rest of the days the file is just lying waiting for an officer to open and check it.

Sorry for the long post, I wanted to include as much detail of the process so that everyone actually knows what happens with our files.
This information is based on information from a number of GCMS Notes and history of previous cases. I claim to be no expert, so if someone has any further info please share or correct.
Thankyou for all the valuable information
I just pray my file is passed very quickly by the LVO
 

canada@2018

Star Member
May 7, 2017
170
120
Forwarded from another thread.
The files which follow the CIO-LVO route go through following stages-

1) Medicals are passed at CIO, this happened around 20-30 days post AOR for June/July applicants. This is mostly the day the file is opened for the first time.

2) Around the 1-2 day your medicals are cleared, your IP1 starts. On this day, a program assistant checks your file for preliminary R10 (documents completeness check) and criminality and forwards it to a senior Agent for final check. The program assistant writes his comments on the file, if all seems fine he will mention "recommended: pass", if there is some doubt he will mention "review required". After this AGENT checks the file again and passes R10 and criminality for good. For files stuck in long IP1s a review required could be cause of delay.

3) Background check changes back to NA (NA2)- After the agent passes R10 and criminality, the BGC changes from IP1 to "not applicable" (NA2).
This might happen on the same day within an hour or might take few days, depending on case by case basis. So basically the medical pass, R10 pass and criminality pass are all done in a matter of 2-3 days if all is fine with the file.

4) After this the file is put on hold for around 30-40 days at CIO. (NA2 phase).

5) After 30-40 days in NA2, the file is opened again to check eligibility at CIO Sydney. The AGENT checks all the criteria for eligibility, FSW, CRS, Education, IELTS, Employment letter etc. If all seems good the Eligibility is Met. This all happens mostly in one day and the very same day file is transferred within seconds to the Local Visa Office, as the file is transferred the eligibility changes from "MET" to "Not started" again. This is the time when we get "not needed" in our additional docs section.
All the above 5 steps take place at CIO, so above are the checks that happen at CIO. So at CIO R10, criminality and primary Eligibility are done.

6) Now to LVO:-
After the file is at LVO, it depends completely on the concerned LVO and Visa Officer as to when they open your file, which might take from 15-100 days from transfer.
After someone opens your file at the LVO, your eligibility is checked again (this is when IP2 starts) (Eligibility is checked twice overall, once primary check at CIO and then again at LVO). Now it depends on the Visa Officer that if he chooses to rely on the CIO AGENT's check and passes eligibility by merely reviewing the old check, or he/she might chose to check the eligibility in detail again. Most Visa Officers go by the recommendation of the CIO AGENT and do this check as a mere formality, but some Visa Officers might do further verifications on Employment etc., or ask for additional docs, in case they find something doubtful or sometimes just random quality checks. So it all depends on the Visa Officer, once satisfied with this, the Visa Officer changes eligibility to "pass". The the Visa Officer checks and finalises the security and approves the file. After approval the file is sent to be issued a PPR.
So basically the eligibility is checked again and all other checks are reviewed and the file is approved at LVO. So its over all final review of the case, how deep a Visa Officer goes in the case to do that is completely his prerogative and his personal view of the case. All this might happen in a few hours, and might even take many days. Sometimes a file is opened and checked for few checks and the again closed, in such cases files keep on hanging until and unless the Visa Officer choses to come back and open it again. Sometimes some files are randomly chosen for security screening, which might delay files for many months. So these two reasons result in very long IP2s. Also some file have "review required" in Eligibility at CIO, those files also might go under serious checks by the Visa Officer, this might also delay a bit. So at LVO mostly, detailed second Eligibility check is done and passed, security is cleared and over all review of file is done and PPR issued.
Hence this is what happens at LVO. Basically guys, as long as your file is in NA, it most likely is gathering dust, no one is even looking at the file. For an ideal case with no complications, it takes maximum 4-5 actual working days per file. This is the actual time that is devoted to a file, rest of the days the file is just lying waiting for an officer to open and check it.

Sorry for the long post, I wanted to include as much detail of the process so that everyone actually knows what happens with our files.
This information is based on information from a number of GCMS Notes and history of previous cases. I claim to be no expert, so if someone has any further info please share or correct.

Hey @gsohi2011 - that's a lot of information, thanks. We are US based FSW applicants and our file is in CPO Ottawa now. I am guessing the file was initially processed at CIO Sydney before being sent to Ottawa.

Question - is CPO Ottawa the final place where a decision will be made for us? or it will be again sent to a local visa office.

FYI - we are in NA2 for a month. This week CIC confirmed that file in CPC Ottawa.

TIA
 

gsohi2011

Hero Member
May 30, 2015
267
77
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
New Delhi
NOC Code......
2273
App. Filed.......
30-08-2017
AOR Received.
30-08-2017
File Transfer...
27-10-2017
Passport Req..
28-12-2017
LANDED..........
01-04-2018
Hey @gsohi2011 - that's a lot of information, thanks. We are US based FSW applicants and our file is in CPO Ottawa now. I am guessing the file was initially processed at CIO Sydney before being sent to Ottawa.

Question - is CPO Ottawa the final place where a decision will be made for us? or it will be again sent to a local visa office.

FYI - we are in NA2 for a month. This week CIC confirmed that file in CPC Ottawa.

TIA
For US & Canada applicants, all applications are processed at CPC Ottawa.
 
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canada@2018

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May 7, 2017
170
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For US & Canada applicants, all applications are processed at CPC Ottawa.
Cool, makes sense.

Just out of curiosity - For US applicants does the file directly go to CPC Ottawa after AOR skipping CIO's involvement or it has to follow the route CIO Sydney->CPC Ottawa (like CIO->LVO for non US/Canadian applicants) . The reason I am asking is if the file was transferred to CPO from CIO, the additional document should have been "Not needed...." as per the process, but mine still says "we are reviewing.....".

Thanks again.
 

gsohi2011

Hero Member
May 30, 2015
267
77
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
New Delhi
NOC Code......
2273
App. Filed.......
30-08-2017
AOR Received.
30-08-2017
File Transfer...
27-10-2017
Passport Req..
28-12-2017
LANDED..........
01-04-2018
Cool, makes sense.

Just out of curiosity - For US applicants does the file directly go to CPC Ottawa after AOR skipping CIO's involvement or it has to follow the route CIO Sydney->CPC Ottawa (like CIO->LVO for non US/Canadian applicants) . The reason I am asking is if the file was transferred to CPO from CIO, the additional document should have been "Not needed...." as per the process, but mine still says "we are reviewing.....".

Thanks again.
All applications goes first through CIO to CPC or LVO.The above explanations is just generalised, there can be exceptions. Your addtional documents can remain same till PPR.
 
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Beae17

Newbie
Oct 7, 2017
1
5
Hi everyone!
I am a newbie but I have learnt a lot from members of this forum on my journey towards getting my PPR (which I got very early this morning just over a month after AOR).
Timeline:

ITA - 23RD AUGUST 2017
AOR - 31ST AUGUST 2017
ADR—25TH SEPTEMBER 2017 (SCHEDULE A AND TRAVEL HISTORY REQUEST)
ADR SUBMITTED— 27TH SEPTEMBER 2017
MEP - 28TH SEPTEMBER 2017
IP1 - 28TH SEPTEMBER 2017
BG NA - 29TH SEPTEMBER 2017
BG IP2- 3RD OCTOBER 2017
PPR - 6TH OCTOBER 2017

I am FSW Outland and our travel history (spouse and I) was quite extensive too. I found most answers to my enquiries on this forum and I thank you all for your helpful contributions. This is not to make others with same AOR date worry as circumstances and processing centres may differ. I wish everyone all the best.
 

SDEV8

Full Member
Sep 20, 2017
20
20
I didn't notice an intermediary Not Applicable.

I used to believe file only gets transferred to LVO shortly before IP2. I am surprised mine is at Ottawa with no change in the BGC.
Once the VO starts the final review of your file it will change to IN process
 
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deril

Full Member
Feb 22, 2017
26
0
Hi everyone. I am new to this forum and would really like your help on the experience letter for FSW express entry.
Can anyone pls tell me wether we have to elaborate on the job duties mentioned in the NOC code. Or does the experience letter have to be quite similar to the NOC list.
I ask this as I think if one tries to elaborate too much on the job duties than there is a risk of deviating from what the VO would like to see in job duties.

Any suggestion will be very helpful.
 

hatem1981

Star Member
Jun 28, 2017
126
20
42
Category........
FSW
AOR Received.
12-09-2017
Hi everyone. I am new to this forum and would really like your help on the experience letter for FSW express entry.
Can anyone pls tell me wether we have to elaborate on the job duties mentioned in the NOC code. Or does the experience letter have to be quite similar to the NOC list.
I ask this as I think if one tries to elaborate too much on the job duties than there is a risk of deviating from what the VO would like to see in job duties.

Any suggestion will be very helpful.
They don't expect every job in the world to be matching their description exactly. If it's around 70% match you would be fine. Told to me by a friend who used an immigration lawyer. Regards
 

deril

Full Member
Feb 22, 2017
26
0
They don't expect every job in the world to be matching their description exactly. If it's around 70% match you would be fine. Told to me by a friend who used an immigration lawyer. Regards

Thanks hatem1981 for the response.
One more thing,
for my NOC, the lead statement has just one line and this is also the exact first job duty mentioned in the "Main duties".

How does one describe what he has done to support the lead statement, as in this case it is also a main duty. Will it be fine if my employer just rewords the lead statement or do i need to mention a few duties to support the lead statement, in addition to mentioning the main duties.
 

ravleen

Hero Member
May 20, 2017
708
331
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4021
AOR Received.
23 September 2018
Med's Done....
23 October 2018
Thank you very much. It recently changed to "we are processing your background check"
Are you FSWO?
My bg status also says the same "we are processing your background check" & someone told me it's IP2...for you also it will be the same.