superman786 said:
2011- 145days
2012- 366days
2013- 365days
2014- 365days
2015- 258days
2016- 285days
2017- 97days
188 days absence
I calculated my days
So Police clearance is requried?
Without considering the numbers, since they do not indicate days in any particular country . . .
The police certificate requirement is
not about the number of days absent, let alone the number of days absent during the six years which are relevant to the physical presence calculation.
The police certificate requirement is not about the physical presence calculation at all.
The police certificate requirement is about the number of days (total) spent in a particular country other than Canada.
Thus, for purposes of the police certificate requirement, the requirement is based on total presence in another country during the
FOUR years preceding the date of the application. This is about what can constitute a
Prohibition. For example, a conviction in the last
four years (in any country) for what would be an indictable offence in Canada, would constitute a prohibition.
It is the applicant's burden to submit sufficient evidence of no prohibitions . . . which currently is interpreted and applied to mean that any applicant who spent a total of six months or more in a country other than Canada, during the previous
four years, must acknowledge this fact and submit a police certificate (to show no convictions) in that country.
Again, it is not about days absent from Canada. It is about days present in a given country.
superman786 said:
Can i still attach the discarded passport bio photocopy?
Yes, you can submit a copy of the discarded passport bio pages, and as I noted this gets the application past the completeness check in Sydney.
Then at the interview you are likely to run into major headwinds.
In addition to what I noted in my previous post, about the prudence of waiting before applying, given the lack of a passport covering before 2015, you might also consider looking at the pattern you will be trying to sell IRCC:
-- last two years, for which you can present a passport, averaging 90 or so days absent per year,
-- versus the previous three years for which you cannot present a passport you will claim
zero absences
Impressions matter.
Just saying, unless you are one heck of a salesperson,
looks like red flags waving crazy.
zineb83 said:
Mon dieu , i made mistake I thought for evry year the 183 as the pr requirement I made huge mistake , what should I do now call them and correct this , I hope they will not take it as lie or something similar my god I feel so bad , I am about to cry , I was so stupid I didn't read it very well , are they ganna return my application or refuse it mon dieu. I am so down I did this mistake
If indeed you did make a mistake and failed to properly check "yes" for Item 6.M.,
NO need to panic.
IRCC recognizes people make mistakes.
My sense is that so long as the presence calculation declarations are accurate and complete, and you appropriately provided information in the
purpose box, thus fully disclosing how many days you were in another country, it should be apparent it was a mistake and not an effort to conceal the fact. After all, you disclosed the underlying factual information, and just misinterpreted Item 6.M.
My guess is that this has happened for more than a few.
Obviously it would be much better to not have made such an error. And it could be construed to be a misrepresentation if otherwise the applicant does not appropriately declare the trips and countries visited.
But as you have seen in the topic where
as aa reports and queries about doing this very same thing: what then happened was an instruction at the interview to provide the police certificate. Unless there is something else of concern in
as aa's case, the damage should be no more than a delay . . . time to submit the police certificate and then awhile in queue for the next step after that.
If you immediately make an effort to obtain the required police certificate, and you receive it before being scheduled for the test and interview, you can submit it together with an explanation that you learned you misunderstood what was asked, affirmatively state that you were in such-and-such country for a total of more than six months in the previous four years, and should have checked "yes" for Item 6.M. in your application, and state that you are including the police certificate for such-and-such country, and indeed include that in this submission.
Or you can wait to physically present it at the test and interview together with your explanation.
Do not attempt to send IRCC anything until you have a case number, which you get when AOR is issued and the application is in process.
Are you sure you made this mistake? It is based on the preceding FOUR years.
If you applied on March 28, 2017, the period of time which is relevant for determining if you need to submit a police certificate is:
March 28, 2013 to March 27, 2017
If during those 1460 days you spent a total of 183 or more days in any one country other than Canada, then you needed to check "yes" and submit a police certificate.
Possibility of returned application or written request for police certificate prior to test/interview.
It is not likely that the completeness check step in Sydney will cross-check information and identify an inconsistency between the physical presence calculation (where a total of more than 183 days are reported abroad in a particular country) and a "no" check for item 6.M. But it is possible. If that happens, the application might be returned.
It is more possible that during the triage screening this discrepancy
might be identified, and if so that might result in the applicant being sent a specific request regarding this, including a request for the respective country police certificate. So far I have not seen anyone report this. We do not know the current triage criteria. Last version of the triage criteria publicly disclosed was focused on risk indicators related to residency or physical presence, not potential prohibitions (again, the police certificate requirement is about prohibitions not physical presence), so my guess is this will not happen, but again it is possible.
If the discrepancy is identified during the local office preparation of the case for interview, it is more likely the local office will wait and address it at the interview. But here too it is possible the local office could send a request regarding this, including a request to submit the police certificate.
If you did make this mistake, definitely take action to obtain the police certificate, so at the least you have it as soon as possible. Whether to wait to the interview (or an earlier request), or to submit it proactively, is a judgment call for you to make.
