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Ray of Hope - 71st Draw!

Abu Shams

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Jul 1, 2017
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I have question to the seniors of the forum..............I have already made a declaration in the Statutory Question section (post ITA) that my previous PR application was rejected due to selection of wrong NOC..................do I need to attach an LoE for this again?
 

iamxty

Champion Member
Mar 13, 2017
2,341
4,309
Singapore
Category........
PNP
NOC Code......
2174
App. Filed.......
09-07-2017
Nomination.....
01-08-2017
AOR Received.
07-09-2017
File Transfer...
04-11-2017
Passport Req..
08-03-2018
This is the scariest part for me in the whole process. Pretty much confident that the ones I have selected are the most appropriate NOCs.
Is there any magic wand or something to help me..
What is your NOC?
 

iamxty

Champion Member
Mar 13, 2017
2,341
4,309
Singapore
Category........
PNP
NOC Code......
2174
App. Filed.......
09-07-2017
Nomination.....
01-08-2017
AOR Received.
07-09-2017
File Transfer...
04-11-2017
Passport Req..
08-03-2018
I have question to the seniors of the forum..............I have already made a declaration in the Statutory Question section (post ITA) that my previous PR application was rejected due to selection of wrong NOC..................do I need to attach an LoE for this again?
Fill up Schedule A and upload it in the LOE placeholder.
 

iamxty

Champion Member
Mar 13, 2017
2,341
4,309
Singapore
Category........
PNP
NOC Code......
2174
App. Filed.......
09-07-2017
Nomination.....
01-08-2017
AOR Received.
07-09-2017
File Transfer...
04-11-2017
Passport Req..
08-03-2018
Sorry 1123
You have to align your duties with the main duties in the NOC page. You can post the duties in your reference letter here so other members with the same NOC could help you.
 
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Rise and shine

Hero Member
Apr 9, 2017
370
408
NOC Code......
2123
App. Filed.......
08-12-2017
AOR Received.
08-12-2017
Med's Done....
09-01-2018
Passport Req..
05-06-2018
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2018
What is your NOC?
Associate Manager- Corporate Affairs:
  • Policy Advocacy Direct connect with Concerned Dept./ Officials with Direct Selling in South India
  • Partnerships and Leveraging Industry Associations to maximize the Advocacy with State Govt.
  • Community oriented activities with stakeholders like Police Dept. and Govt. Departments
  • Public awareness campaigns, conducting events with stakeholders.
  • Monitor policy developments
  • Participate in Industry Delegation/Roundtable interactions with State Govt.
 

Rise and shine

Hero Member
Apr 9, 2017
370
408
NOC Code......
2123
App. Filed.......
08-12-2017
AOR Received.
08-12-2017
Med's Done....
09-01-2018
Passport Req..
05-06-2018
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2018
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You have to align your duties with the main duties in the NOC page. You can post the duties in your reference letter here so other members with the same NOC could help you.
That will be great. Incase if I can finalise something. So kind of you.
 

iamxty

Champion Member
Mar 13, 2017
2,341
4,309
Singapore
Category........
PNP
NOC Code......
2174
App. Filed.......
09-07-2017
Nomination.....
01-08-2017
AOR Received.
07-09-2017
File Transfer...
04-11-2017
Passport Req..
08-03-2018
Associate Manager- Corporate Affairs:
  • Policy Advocacy Direct connect with Concerned Dept./ Officials with Direct Selling in South India
  • Partnerships and Leveraging Industry Associations to maximize the Advocacy with State Govt.
  • Community oriented activities with stakeholders like Police Dept. and Govt. Departments
  • Public awareness campaigns, conducting events with stakeholders.
  • Monitor policy developments
  • Participate in Industry Delegation/Roundtable interactions with State Govt.
I think you have to elaborate more on your duties. I find it too generic.
 

vensak

VIP Member
Jul 14, 2016
3,868
1,016
124
Category........
Visa Office......
Vienna
NOC Code......
1225
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
Dear Jonson,

This is my 2 cents for you.

The whole purpose of immigration is because of the low population density, low birth rate, high ratio of elder to younger class.
Canada with the vast area is ironically the least populated area in the world. Just to give you a mental picture , India (my country) has 358 person per sqkm while USA has 33.7 person and you know about canada's density? It's 3.9 per sqkm. And do you know the how much they import, 416.6 billion dollars. Just imagine country with roughly 3.9 person per sqkm is importing more than the India with 333 person per sqkm. Yes , surprised? India's import is 359 billion dollars.




Now you may wonder, why am pointing out this stats? I may sound deluded but worry not . Canada has copious amount of untapped resources such as oils and minerals on their northern side and their eastern and southern border are endowed with potential farm lands (canada is the 5th largest agricultural exporter in the world) . Hope you get a big picture now. It has vast number of resources yet meager workforce to exploit them (till date). It needs farmers, miners, hard labors , programmers , support persons, journalists, receptionist , builders, bakers and the list goes on. What's better option than encouraging their citizens to work well at night ? ;) but wait, haven't I said, canada has less birth rateo_O. Oh yeah, then it all downs to immigration isn't ? Canada needs workforce, especially skilled workforce, this immigration trend has to continue to sustain their population and economical balance.

  • Express entry is one way, but lot number of people are emigrating back to their origin as they have less patience in nailing a decent job in Canada.As of 2016, nearly 64,305 people are emigrated from canada from which 13,450 are from Ontario.
  • Not all refugees are accepted, nearly 39 refugees/ illegal immigrants/asylum seekers are deported from Canada daily.
  • With respect to H1B, the bill has passed but to make it into a law, it needs to consider the following, a support from opposition party (46% votes for trump , what about opinion from the reminder?) , effect on foreign relations, corporate pressure, How can local companies can fed their skill needs?. So I don't think the bill will be lawed for another 1-2 years.
Hope I provided rational explanation. People out here in this forum are needed to be optimistic not only through out their visa process but also after they get to land in Canada and "Ray of hope" is an avenue for us. Am pretty sure, people here are much matured , doing their process without help of consultants and they are not deluded (they just claim to be) and they very well predict what the future holds for them. so we don't need cold showers as CIC is already showering us on monthly basis, ROH is our lukewarm.

Every dynasty has a beginning and an ending. Indian empire had one, so does China, Mongolia , Greek ,Turkey, Roman, Spain, France, Britain and now America. I believe canada is a future and much members out here inclined to my intuition.

PS: This post is not meant to troll or being a wagon for sarcasm . Peace :)
1. Canada is not responsible for the current state in India (high birth rate, overpopulation and issues connected to that in some areas).

2. With the logic of lower population, you can even try to live in some countries like Lybia, Soudi Arabia, Mongolia, Russia or Greenland. All of them have low population density. Except, there is a catch. Either they are developping countries (Mongolia or the region of Central Africa) or most of their land is not very livable (waste areas of Siberia in Russia, most of Central Africa, Greenland, Saudi Arabia...). Same thing with Canada. Would you mind to check the population spread out, you would find, that app. 90% does occupy app. 10% of the available land (no real statisics, just my estimations). And with that, your picture suddenly will be totaly different.

3. Speaking of possibilities - Russia has waste mineral resources or other potential. So does Saudi Arabia. Even Greenland migh have lot of hidden potential.

4.When it comes to the Emigration from Canada, take into consideration following - expatriots, that have long term assignment outside Canada; retired who prefer to live for example in Thailand with a comparable service level, but much cheaper costs; Those that had only temproary assignment in Canada and that assignment has ended. And speaking of Ontario - Ontario is one of the top 3 most popular provinces (together with BC and Quebec), so they are not lacking enough replacement for those, that are leaving (be it people moving from another province or another country).

5. If the daily income of refugee application is higher than what you can close par that day (by either accepting or rejecting applicant), you are creating backlog. And that backlog is getting bigger and bigger. And if your economy is not booming (and somehow Canada is not China, when it comes do GDP growth), than significant increase of asylum request, puts more strain on the system (you do not have that much more money from the taxes but your expenses are shooting up).

6. When it comes to the demand of people of specific skills (for example manages with years of experience of specialist with years of experience), that one is very limited in Canada. In fact you do not need 300k per year of such specialist per year. You might just need few 1000 of them per year for the whole country. Most of the empty positions are for the professions that nobody wants to do (truck drivers and delivery boys, call center employee, cooks for Tim Horton like restaurants; basic labourers). But I doubt that many people here want to settle down in such position long term.

7. Canada immigration is a game of competition. If you do not offer something more than most of the competitors you will stay in the gray mass waiting for eternity for your turn to come(this is not a static waiting queue, this is dynamic system where those whith active approach get served, while most of the passive hopers will remain the bench warmers). With that, immigration office does not really care what higher or lower amount of ITA does to some Jill or Joe sitting in Lesotho and hoping to arrive Canada. All they care about is to meet their quota.
 
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Rise and shine

Hero Member
Apr 9, 2017
370
408
NOC Code......
2123
App. Filed.......
08-12-2017
AOR Received.
08-12-2017
Med's Done....
09-01-2018
Passport Req..
05-06-2018
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2018
I think you have to elaborate more on your duties. I find it too generic.
Thank you. I will put it together in sometime and post it here.
 

vensak

VIP Member
Jul 14, 2016
3,868
1,016
124
Category........
Visa Office......
Vienna
NOC Code......
1225
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
Yes, that's exactly what he/she's saying.
People need to be very careful with the reference letters.
Work Reference Letters, PCCs and unclear PoFs, I beleieve, are the main reasons for refusal of PR.
IRCC is not like the PNPs, they don't seem to be asking for ADRs, they reject the file altogether.
So please, everyone, you need to be very careful with your documentation.
Ask everything you think you don't have clear here in the forums (after being proactively reading in the IRCC webpage, of course), write a lot of LoEs for ANYTHING you think that needs explaining, and only do your e-APR once you have EVERY document ready. Don't send an incomplete file without the proper LoE (in the case it's really impossible to get the document in due time... like, if a woman is pregnant and can't send the complete medicals in the e-APR deadline).
Actually the highest % of cancelled application is bound to the PCC (missing PCC or incorrect PCC). And right after that are missing diplomas or missing translations or original copies. And only after that you have problems with reference letters (maybe around 1 or 2% of all cancellations).
 

Rise and shine

Hero Member
Apr 9, 2017
370
408
NOC Code......
2123
App. Filed.......
08-12-2017
AOR Received.
08-12-2017
Med's Done....
09-01-2018
Passport Req..
05-06-2018
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2018
Actually the highest % of cancelled application is bound to the PCC (missing PCC or incorrect PCC). And right after that are missing diplomas or missing translations or original copies. And only after that you have problems with reference letters (maybe around 1 or 2% of all cancellations).
That's a consoling reply. But probability is still on the higher side.
 
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prongs13

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May 8, 2014
75
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True that @lino82.... The forum has given opportunities to know so many people from vast range of cultures and linguistic background all across the globe.... Sure, the multi-cuisine restaurant / bar would be a great idea wherein we all could meet end of the day..
I would spend my afternoon lunch probably out there too :p

I do have a name for it too, to start the list of suggestions for this.... "The Immigration Cafe"... with a tag line from "Lets talk over a coffee, from express entry to sponsorship programs....." :) :)
Call it Ring of Hope cafe.