question.. departure order.....urgent

[2calgary]

hi all
need help
received departure order...
applied for asulym in Montreal in july 2026 and in september 2026 Imiigration officer handed over a Departure order and transfered case in toronto as living in toronto now.

Lawyer said he applied for apeal.... what does this mean? it says under Subsection 41(a)
it says the order will be deemed to be a deportation order.

its not saying its conditional or anything. lawyer saying he apealed .
but other people saying its rejection.
anyone please

is it normal all refugee get departure order?

 

[moref1988]

hi all
need help
received departure order...
applied for asulym in Montreal in july 2026 and in september 2026 Imiigration officer handed over a Departure order and transfered case in toronto as living in toronto now.

Lawyer said he applied for apeal.... what does this mean? it says under Subsection 41(a)
it says the order will be deemed to be a deportation order.

its not saying its conditional or anything. lawyer saying he apealed .
but other people saying its rejection.
anyone please

is it normal all refugee get departure order?

As far as i know normally refugees get a removal order and this can not unenforcable till making decision about their claim.

 

[cleo007]

hi all
need help
received departure order...
applied for asulym in Montreal in july 2026 and in september 2026 Imiigration officer handed over a Departure order and transfered case in toronto as living in toronto now.

Lawyer said he applied for apeal.... what does this mean? it says under Subsection 41(a)
it says the order will be deemed to be a deportation order.

its not saying its conditional or anything. lawyer saying he apealed .
but other people saying its rejection.
anyone please

is it normal all refugee get departure order?

Interesting situation, Yes everyone applying for assylum gets a departure orders but they are not enforcable till you get a negative decision on your case.I assume there are other factors here like you have dual nationality ,lived in another country or transited through a safe third country? Did he give you the reason why yours is enforced even before your case is transferred to the irb??

 

[moref1988]

Interesting situation, Yes everyone applying for assylum gets a departure orders but they are not enforcable till you get a negative decision on your case.I assume there are other factors here like you have dual nationality ,lived in another country or transited through a safe third country? Did he give you the reason why yours is enforced even before your case is transferred to the irb??

Perhaps there's a case of ineligibility. Under normal circumstances, I think a hearing would be held even if it were an exclusion, like having citizenship of another country.

 

[canuck78]

hi all
need help
received departure order...
applied for asulym in Montreal in july 2026 and in september 2026 Imiigration officer handed over a Departure order and transfered case in toronto as living in toronto now.

Lawyer said he applied for apeal.... what does this mean? it says under Subsection 41(a)
it says the order will be deemed to be a deportation order.

its not saying its conditional or anything. lawyer saying he apealed .
but other people saying its rejection.
anyone please

is it normal all refugee get departure order?

Were you eligible to claim asylum? How long have you been in Canada? Have you ever claimed asylum in another country? Do you have a criminal record in Canada or elsewhere?

 

[2calgary]

hi all,
came from Pakistan..and applied applied asylum after 3 weeks of arrival in montreal ..no other claim in any other country........no criminal record......
no idea but lawyer said he apealed and now wait for hearing.........it looks confused if this is normal letter then why alwyer saying he apealed? either he is hiding something or else its rejected
but somehow still getting Ontario works.....does anone have any sample letter how it looks that is called "normal and every one gets it " thanks

i will try to remove my data and post here

......i tried to attach letter here but didnot find any option to attach

 

[2calgary]

looklike no body else ever received Departure letter......................

 

[canuck78]

Can you post what you have received without any identifying information.

 

[2calgary]

Can you post what you have received without any identifying information.

i am trying but unable to attach with this thread...can you guide

 

[2calgary]

Hi
Copy pasting

I HEREBY make a Departure Order against the above-named person pursuant to the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act and Regulations because I am satisfied that the person is described in:


Subsection 41(a) in that, on a balance of probabilities, there are grounds to believe is a foreign national who is inadmissible for failing to comply with this Act through an act or omission which contravenes, directly or indirectly, a provision of this Act, specifically:


The requirement of paragraph 20(1)(a) of the Act that every foreign national, other than a foreign national referred to in section 19, who seeks to enter or remain in Canada must establish, to become a permanent resident, that they hold the visa or other document required under the Regulations.


IMPORTANT


This Order will be deemed to be a Deportation Order where no Certificate of Departure is issued within the applicable period specified in the Immigration Regulations.


Subject to the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act where a Deportation Order is made against a person, the person shall not, after the person is removed from or otherwise leaves Canada, come into Canada without the written consent of the Minister unless an appeal from the Order has been allowed


Unless expenses incurred by Her Majesty in right of Canada have been recovered from a transporter, a foreign national who is removed from Canada at Her Majesty's expense shall not return to Canada if the foreign national has not paid the removal costs outlined in section 243 of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations, including any annual adjustment made that is in place at the time the foreign national is removed.


I fully understand the above Decision.

 

[moref1988]

This document, when an asylum claim is made, is similar to the standard departure order given during the eligibility interview. There should be no need for appeal; if the claim is unsuccessful, this decision will be enforceable.

 

[moref1988]

i am trying but unable to attach with this thread...can you guide

If the officer conducting the eligibility interview clearly states that they have determined your claim is eligible for referral to the RPD and are referring it, I believe there should be no cause for concern.

 

[2calgary]

thanks alot all of you

 

[HopeAndFear321]

Only thing i can see here is , your lawyer is trying to rip you off in the name of appeal . Everybody i believe get this letter during eligibility interview , It only come to an inforce when your claim is not accepted by irb

 

[dao.c]

Only thing i can see here is , your lawyer is trying to rip you off in the name of appeal . Everybody i believe get this letter during eligibility interview , It only come to an inforce when your claim is not accepted by irb

I agree, I've met a lot of people who have been ripped off by lawyers in the name of "help". I know one lawyer who charged someone almost 1000$ for a refugee work permit (which is something you can get without paying a fee).

@2calgary
Of course I can't comment on your situation fully as you may have a specific situation, but it's perfectly normal to get a departure when making a refugee claim. Even the IRCC pamphlet regarding refugee claims says so. (Section 12 https://www.canada.ca/content/dam/i...laimants/refugee-claimants-information-en.pdf)

If the conditions on your documents are the same as the ones on these you don't have to worry about anything.
When you make a refugee claim you're practically destined to get these documents: