Recent inland Refusals

[colgate1]

Hello,

Most of the threads I have read are not from recent years.

It appears that approval rate of inland applications is much higher than outland applications that are processed at the Canadian visa offices overseas. Is my understanding correct?

Also, how often inland applicants are requested for an interview?

Are all the inland applicants asked for an interview? It seems like there is a relationship interview.

Those who have submitted inland applications in the recent years, what kind of questions you were asked during your interview?

If you could share your experience would be great. My spouse and I are very busy with our lives. This spousal application is taking a toll especially on my mental health.

Thank you

 

[Ponga]

Hello,

Most of the threads I have read are not from recent years.

It appears that approval rate of inland applications is much higher than outland applications that are processed at the Canadian visa offices overseas. Is my understanding correct?

Also, how often inland applicants are requested for an interview?

Are all the inland applicants asked for an interview? It seems like there is a relationship interview.

Those who have submitted inland applications in the recent years, what kind of questions you were asked during your interview?

If you could share your experience would be great. My spouse and I are very busy with our lives. This spousal application is taking a toll especially on my mental health.

Thank you

See this:
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigratio...-15-17-2022/inventories-processing-times.html

Family Class immigration

• Family reunification remains a departmental priority, and the Department finalized over 111,000 applications under the Family Class category in 2021. The overall approval rate was 92%.
• As of the end of December 2021, the processing time was 20 months for overseas spousal applications and 17 months for domestic applications. Processing times for new spousal applications (outside Quebec) in 2022 are expected to continue to improve and meet the service standard of 12 months.

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It does not break down the 92% approval rate between Inland (SCPLC) and Outland. No idea how much that matters in terms of an approval.

Prior to `The Twilight Zone' (aka Covid-19) ALL inland applicants had an interview, of sorts...on the day they appeared at an Inland office and landed as a PR. The officer could ask any number of questions, but in reality...the approval was upheld, barring any conflicting information that was gleaned from the applicant during the interview.

Now, it seems as though everything is done virtually. No idea how, if at all, that impacts Inland applicants in terms of an interview.

And regarding your angst...try to focus on a positive decision. I know, first hand, how daunting the wait can be...just release that negative energy and imagine it being over!

Good luck.

 

[canuck78]

Hello,

Most of the threads I have read are not from recent years.

It appears that approval rate of inland applications is much higher than outland applications that are processed at the Canadian visa offices overseas. Is my understanding correct?

Also, how often inland applicants are requested for an interview?

Are all the inland applicants asked for an interview? It seems like there is a relationship interview.

Those who have submitted inland applications in the recent years, what kind of questions you were asked during your interview?

If you could share your experience would be great. My spouse and I are very busy with our lives. This spousal application is taking a toll especially on my mental health.

Thank you

Before recent changes families applying inland were either from visa exempt countries (so no huge incentive to move to Canada and therefore minimal concern about immigration fraud or couples separating after their arrival in Canada and receipt of PR), involved relationships where couples had lived together or had a long history of in person dating so more proof of a true relationship and other applicants involved a spouse who had been in Canada as a student or on a WP which would have allowed them to qualify for PR on their own so no concern that relationship was to secure immigration status. To previously qualify for a TRV you had to have a good job, previous international travel experience, your own savings, often property ownership, etc. so many would have likely qualified to immigrate via economic pathways or had nice lives on their home countries so there would be less concern that a person is trying to secure PR for their personal benefit and that the relationship wasn’t genuine unless there was huge red flags.

Many if those applying for outland sponsorship (before the recent announcement) had had very little in person relationship time for cultural reasons or because one person was living in Canada. Without in person time together as a couple there will be more scrutiny than a relationship where a couple has been living together longterm for example. Many applying outland stand to benefit from immigrating toCanada more than those applying inland which is why there is also more scrutiny on those applications. There are more interviews for outland applications versus inland applications for these reasons as well. Most in genuine relationships get approved it may just take a bit longer.

 

[colgate1]

See this:
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigratio...-15-17-2022/inventories-processing-times.html

Family Class immigration

• Family reunification remains a departmental priority, and the Department finalized over 111,000 applications under the Family Class category in 2021. The overall approval rate was 92%.
• As of the end of December 2021, the processing time was 20 months for overseas spousal applications and 17 months for domestic applications. Processing times for new spousal applications (outside Quebec) in 2022 are expected to continue to improve and meet the service standard of 12 months.

---
It does not break down the 92% approval rate between Inland (SCPLC) and Outland. No idea how much that matters in terms of an approval.

Prior to `The Twilight Zone' (aka Covid-19) ALL inland applicants had an interview, of sorts...on the day they appeared at an Inland office and landed as a PR. The officer could ask any number of questions, but in reality...the approval was upheld, barring any conflicting information that was gleaned from the applicant during the interview.

Now, it seems as though everything is done virtually. No idea how, if at all, that impacts Inland applicants in terms of an interview.

And regarding your angst...try to focus on a positive decision. I know, first hand, how daunting the wait can be...just release that negative energy and imagine it being over!

Good luck.

I am not sure if all inland applicants received the interview before covid. There would be a lot of interviews to go thru...

Yeah, I ran into that link as well but it just another bs which does not really help my curiosity.

I would be more interested in hearing real stories from ppl that they have had the interview and such.

Thank you

 

[colgate1]

Before recent changes families applying inland were either from visa exempt countries (so no huge incentive to move to Canada and therefore minimal concern about immigration fraud or couples separating after their arrival in Canada and receipt of PR), involved relationships where couples had lived together or had a long history of in person dating so more proof of a true relationship and other applicants involved a spouse who had been in Canada as a student or on a WP which would have allowed them to qualify for PR on their own so no concern that relationship was to secure immigration status. To previously qualify for a TRV you had to have a good job, previous international travel experience, your own savings, often property ownership, etc. so many would have likely qualified to immigrate via economic pathways or had nice lives on their home countries so there would be less concern that a person is trying to secure PR for their personal benefit and that the relationship wasn’t genuine unless there was huge red flags.

Many if those applying for outland sponsorship (before the recent announcement) had had very little in person relationship time for cultural reasons or because one person was living in Canada. Without in person time together as a couple there will be more scrutiny than a relationship where a couple has been living together longterm for example. Many applying outland stand to benefit from immigrating toCanada more than those applying inland which is why there is also more scrutiny on those applications. There are more interviews for outland applications versus inland applications for these reasons as well. Most in genuine relationships get approved it may just take a bit longer.

I agree with the things you said. I wish those immigration people are more aware of the cultural circumstances. Many of them born and raised in Canada. They have local help or work with people that are minority but still.

Hope someone share his or her experience with the recent inland interview that they had to go through with the questions they were asked. Thank you

 

[Ponga]

I am not sure if all inland applicants received the interview before covid. There would be a lot of interviews to go thru...

Yeah, I ran into that link as well but it just another bs which does not really help my curiosity.

I would be more interested in hearing real stories from ppl that they have had the interview and such.

Thank you

Yes, they did during the `landing' appointment (and had to bring their sponsor with them).
As mentioned the interview was usually a couple of questions and was procedural, versus an in-depth, at-length interview.

Regarding needing to see `real stories'...why would that matter unless their case was identical to whatever it is that you're overly worried about?

 

[armoured]

Most of the threads I have read are not from recent years

Ummm, then maybe read more recent ones?

It appears that approval rate of inland applications is much higher than outland applications that are processed at the Canadian visa offices overseas. Is my understanding correct?

Already explained by others. To a VERY large degree, the difference is going to be explainable by sample differences - the vast majority of inland vs outland applicant profiles are pretty different.

Exception is going to be mostly inland applicants who were out of status at time of applying. (And by no means all of those are refused)

Keep in mind - refusals in total are not that large a number. The figure I remember reading was well under 5% of all spousal apps, so low I don't remember (it might have been 1-2% but only a guess on my faulty memory).

Also, how often inland applicants are requested for an interview?

Are all the inland applicants asked for an interview? It seems like there is a relationship interview.

Those who have submitted inland applications in the recent years, what kind of questions you were asked during your interview?

If you could share your experience would be great. My spouse and I are very busy with our lives. This spousal application is taking a toll especially on my mental health.

I do not understand your concern or stress here. The actual truth is this: there are far fewer inland applicants invited for interviews at all, and the number of outland apps interviewed isn't that large to begin with (and much, much lower since start of covid).

Why so concerned about the interview? Chances are you simply won't be invited for one.

Don't believe me? Read more recent threads. The reason you're not seeing many summaries of inland interviews is ... there aren't that many.

I don't follow all threads but can't recall having seen one for inland in ages. A couple phone interviews that were actually about other things (common law documentation, other app-specific), not just general relationship interviews. My guess would be - if your spouse is not out of status, chances are vanishingly small.

 

[scylla]

I am not sure if all inland applicants received the interview before covid. There would be a lot of interviews to go thru...

Yeah, I ran into that link as well but it just another bs which does not really help my curiosity.

I would be more interested in hearing real stories from ppl that they have had the interview and such.

Thank you

Yes, All inland applications had interviews. These were landing interviews at the very end of the process to become a PR. All inland applications used to have these pre-covid.

It sounds like you are asking about relationship interviews. These are different and are only scheduled when IRCC has concerns the relationship may not be genuine. Relationship interviews can happen both for inland and outland application. If you search this forum for interview questions, you should be able to find a few threads that list the typical questions asked.

 

[armoured]

Yes, All inland applications had interviews. These were landing interviews at the very end of the process to become a PR. All inland applications used to have these pre-covid.

To be clear, my comment above was not including the landing interviews (previously) done at the end of the process.

 

[colgate1]

Well, I was reffering to inland relationship interviews and not landing interviews.

good to know that if you are not out of status, you may not be asked for an inland relationship interview.

 

[colgate1]

To be clear, my comment above was not including the landing interviews (previously) done at the end of the process.

So, you were saying all the inland applications got relationship interview before covid hit?

 

[armoured]

So, you were saying all the inland applications got relationship interview before covid hit?

No, I was saying those were also infrequent. Less frequent than outland, but more frequent than now.

I did not realize this is you from other thread - if you have lived together and have a child, then it would be even less likely.

Bluntly - you seem worked up and stressed about some things that are not likely to be actual issues. Yes, you had a bad consular expérience a dozen years ago. Move on and research before assuming all is going to go poorly.

On the other hand there are some bits you need to look into - eg if your spouse does not want an x-ray during pregnancy, the medical will be delayed. This won't stop your app but may delay it.

 

[Ponga]

Well, I was reffering to inland relationship interviews and not landing interviews.

good to know that if you are not out of status, you may not be asked for an inland relationship interview.

What makes you think that a person without status would be more prone to an interview? The Inland application is the only application for sponsorship that waives the need for legal status in Canada. Many MANY inland applicants without status never had an interview.

 

[Ponga]

Ummm, then maybe read more recent ones?



Already explained by others. To a VERY large degree, the difference is going to be explainable by sample differences - the vast majority of inland vs outland applicant profiles are pretty different.

Exception is going to be mostly inland applicants who were out of status at time of applying. (And by no means all of those are refused)

Never seen anything to validate that, but if it's merely your opinion...no problem. LOL!

Seems as though once an Inland applicant that was without status reaches the all important AIP stage, the `reset button', of sorts, is pressed until/unless they are found to be inadmissible.

 

[armoured]

Never seen anything to validate that, but if it's merely your opinion...no problem. LOL!

Seems as though once an Inland applicant that was without status reaches the all important AIP stage, the `reset button', of sorts, is pressed until/unless they are found to be inadmissible.

Approval in principle comes after the check of relationships , so your reset is after the important part. But perhaps I've misunderstood your point.

Logic very simple: persons out of status have motive to pursue spousal sponsorship for fraudulent reasons. Persons in status have far fewer reasons to do so. Interview is one mechanism to check relationship bona fides.