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KASK

Star Member
Aug 19, 2017
145
59
Toronto
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Singapore and Etobicoke
LANDED..........
31-12-2017
Hello Legalfalcon. Hope you are doing well.

I landed and became a PR on 31 Dec. 2017. I will be submitting my citizenship application on 30 Jan. 2021. I have some questions about my application.

For Q.12b, which has a table for stating the years of tax filing, for the year 2020 I stated 'Required to File - Yes' and for 'Taxes Filed' - 'No' This is because I haven't filed taxes for 2020 yet. For 2017, 2018, and 2019 I checked Yes for both Required and Filed. So I guess this shouldn't be a problem as I filed taxes for 3 years: 2017, 2018, 2019. And the taxes for 2020 hasn't been filed by anyone yet. Or should I check 'No' for 2020 for both required and filed?

For Q.9a that asked me to enter the 'TO' Date from the online physical presence calculator I entered 29.01.21 according to the calculator. However, when I entered the date, the CIT0002-e2 application form automatically generated a FROM date which is 29.01.2016. However, this 'From date' is different on the online presence calculator by 1 day. On the online calculator, the 5 year eligibility period is 30.01.2016 - 29.01.2021. On the application form the eligibility period is 29.01.16 - 29.01.21. Why are different From dates generated in different forms. Will this create any confusion? According to the online calculator my total physical presence in Canada is 1099 days if my application date is on 30.01.21.

For Q.11 if I was unemployed for a period of time in the address field for that period I must write N/A. Am I right?

Is the PR card a travel document? And should I send a copy of the PR card with my application?

Your expert advice and support will be highly appreciated.
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
18,068
9,407
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Hi @legalfalcon is it feasible that the accompanying spouse will ask for an extension of the PPR request meanwhile the primary applicant submits its passport and do the landing? or both applicants needed to submit passports together upon PPR request?
Pre-COVID you the primary applicant could land first and the dependent spouse later. However, IRCC is not discouraging it and wants the entire family to land together.

If you seek an extensions, then your entire family will have to seek the extensions, and it cannot be selectively for one family member.
 
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legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
18,068
9,407
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Hello Legalfalcon. Hope you are doing well.

I landed and became a PR on 31 Dec. 2017. I will be submitting my citizenship application on 30 Jan. 2021. I have some questions about my application.

For Q.12b, which has a table for stating the years of tax filing, for the year 2020 I stated 'Required to File - Yes' and for 'Taxes Filed' - 'No' This is because I haven't filed taxes for 2020 yet. For 2017, 2018, and 2019 I checked Yes for both Required and Filed. So I guess this shouldn't be a problem as I filed taxes for 3 years: 2017, 2018, 2019. And the taxes for 2020 hasn't been filed by anyone yet. Or should I check 'No' for 2020 for both required and filed?

For Q.9a that asked me to enter the 'TO' Date from the online physical presence calculator I entered 29.01.21 according to the calculator. However, when I entered the date, the CIT0002-e2 application form automatically generated a FROM date which is 29.01.2016. However, this 'From date' is different on the online presence calculator by 1 day. On the online calculator, the 5 year eligibility period is 30.01.2016 - 29.01.2021. On the application form the eligibility period is 29.01.16 - 29.01.21. Why are different From dates generated in different forms. Will this create any confusion? According to the online calculator my total physical presence in Canada is 1099 days if my application date is on 30.01.21.

For Q.11 if I was unemployed for a period of time in the address field for that period I must write N/A. Am I right?

Is the PR card a travel document? And should I send a copy of the PR card with my application?

Your expert advice and support will be highly appreciated.

12(b), it should not be an issue since you meet the minimum criteria, i.e. you "may need to file personal income taxes for at least 3 years within the 5-year period" see https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/publications-manuals/operational-bulletins-manuals/canadian-citizenship/grant/residence/income-tax-filing.html

9(a) Can you please elaborate more, I wasn't able to grasp the issue you are facing.

11. you have to write "unemployed"


photocopies of two (2) pieces of personal identification.

Examples of identification you can use include:

  • a copy of the biographical page of your passport/travel document (as requested above and also can be one (1) of your pieces of personal identification)
  • permanent resident card (PR card)
    • A PR card may only be used as personal identification if your second piece of personal identification was issued by the Canadian government.
  • driver’s licence
  • health insurance card
  • senior citizen identification card
  • age of majority card
  • foreign identity documents, such as a passport or government issued identification documents
See the guide to fill the form at https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/application/application-forms-guides/guide-0002-application-canadian-citizenship-under-subsection-5-1-adults-18-years-older.html#Step3
 

kay2020

Full Member
May 14, 2020
25
7
IF all stages have passed, that is a good sign and you need not worry about it. The 6 months processing time is is a myth, and in 2019 an application for FSW and PNP took 9 months to progress, while CEC took 7 months.

Also, currently due to COVID and office closures, there are significant delays. Given that your AoR is April 2020, and all your stages are passed, you need not worry, just wait it out. Also, currently IRCC is only processing cEC application with full capacity, all other applications processing has significant delays:


https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/coronavirus-covid19/immigration-applicants.html?fbclid=IwAR3aCc-TG5mL6zh7MftC4qWKNo5zRkJoWIeegnT3o_4bngi5E5j-CZ4QE-4#processing


You cannot expedite the processing of your application.

How long did it take to process an Express Entry application?
Table 35 displays the time, in months, that IRCC took to process 80% of applications under each program. In 2019, IRCC did not meet the processing standard of finalizing 80% of all applications sourced via Express Entry within six months. The processing time for Express Entry, overall, was eight months. As an alternative measure of processing times, 60% of applications finalized in the 12-month period ending on December 31, 2019, were completed within the six-month service standard.

Table 35: Processing Times for Express Entry applications finalized by year and immigration category, in months
Program201720182019
Canadian Experience Class457
Federal Skilled Worker469
Provincial/Territorial Nominee669
Federal Skilled Trades6712
All Programs558
Source: CIC_EDW (MBR) as of January 3, 2020
Data is operational and as such should be considered preliminary and subject to change.

  • Processing times refer to the time in which 80% of applications were finalized by IRCC. The processing time is measured from the day a complete application is received until the time a final decision is made by an immigration officer.
Thank you so much @legalfalcon
 

KASK

Star Member
Aug 19, 2017
145
59
Toronto
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Singapore and Etobicoke
LANDED..........
31-12-2017
12(b), it should not be an issue since you meet the minimum criteria, i.e. you "may need to file personal income taxes for at least 3 years within the 5-year period" see https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/publications-manuals/operational-bulletins-manuals/canadian-citizenship/grant/residence/income-tax-filing.html

9(a) Can you please elaborate more, I wasn't able to grasp the issue you are facing.

11. you have to write "unemployed"


photocopies of two (2) pieces of personal identification.

Examples of identification you can use include:

  • a copy of the biographical page of your passport/travel document (as requested above and also can be one (1) of your pieces of personal identification)
  • permanent resident card (PR card)
    • A PR card may only be used as personal identification if your second piece of personal identification was issued by the Canadian government.
  • driver’s licence
  • health insurance card
  • senior citizen identification card
  • age of majority card
  • foreign identity documents, such as a passport or government issued identification documents
See the guide to fill the form at https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/application/application-forms-guides/guide-0002-application-canadian-citizenship-under-subsection-5-1-adults-18-years-older.html#Step3
Thank you, sir.

I had to calculate my eligibility period on the online physical presence calculator which generated an eligibility period for me based on my information. This eligibility period is From 30.01.16 To 29.01.21. However, on the citizenship application Q.9a asks to put the 'To' date from the calculator (i.e. 29.01.21) on a box. When I am entering the To date in the specified box on the form, the form is automatically generating a From Date which is 29.01.16. So according to the form the eligibility period is 29.01.16 - 29.01.21. However, according to the online calculator it's 30.01.16 - 29.01.21. Will this create any confusion?

Also for the unemployed period I must write N/A in the address field. Am I right?
 
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binder1232

Hero Member
Oct 28, 2013
379
126
India
Category........
PNP
Visa Office......
New Delhi
NOC Code......
1225
App. Filed.......
07th October 2020
Doc's Request.
None
Nomination.....
25 November 2020
AOR Received.
24 December 2020
IELTS Request
passed
File Transfer...
24 December 2020
Med's Request
Upfront done
Med's Done....
03/02/2021
Interview........
waiting
Passport Req..
waiting
VISA ISSUED...
waiting
LANDED..........
N.A.
All family members included in the application have to give biometrics. If you have given biometrics in the last 10 Years, you may be exempt from giving them again.

See https://www.cic.gc.ca/english/visit/biometrics.asp

Usually when you have given biometrics before, IRCC locates them put attaches them to your current application. If that has not happened, you can inform IRCC and request them to do so.
Thanks Legalfalcon, I appreciate your prompt reply and guidance.
 
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mvneema10

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Oct 21, 2019
399
38
Hi @legalfalcon
I have a total of 3 passports including the current. Only my second passport has few travel visa stamps. Should I upload all the pages of the passports (including the blank ones) ? . But seems like the file size is very huge.

Please advise. Thanks.
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
18,068
9,407
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Hi @legalfalcon
I have a total of 3 passports including the current. Only my second passport has few travel visa stamps. Should I upload all the pages of the passports (including the blank ones) ? . But seems like the file size is very huge.

Please advise. Thanks.

As per IRCC, biographical pages, and pages with visas, markings and stamps have to be uploaded for expired passports and all pages of the current passport.

If the file size is too big, you can include them along with LoE, or send them separately through a webform.
 
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mvneema10

Hero Member
Oct 21, 2019
399
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As per IRCC, biographical pages, and pages with visas, markings and stamps have to be uploaded for expired passports and all pages of the current passport.

If the file size is too big, you can include them along with LoE, or send them separately through a webform.
Thank you for the prompt reply.
For the proof of funds letter, I received the letter of my savings account from the Bank with all required details today dated 29-Jan-2021. However, they gave the letter with all details of my savings account balance as on closing hours of yesterday's date i.e. 28-Jan-2021.

Is that ok? Bank has said they can only give today's dated letter with balance closing hours of yesterday's date.

Please advise. Thanks
 

Yazer

Member
Mar 24, 2020
12
2
Hi @legalfalcon,

Thank you so much for helping everyone around. I have a question and first here is my situation.

EE PNP (BC international graduate stream) inland application with job offer (was working in BC, now laid off), my wife is outland.
AOR April 30th 2020
Medicals passed Sep 3rd.
December 11. I was laid off.
Biometrics for myself done Dec 30th
in my account, it says now "January 6, 2021, We are reviewing the additional documents you provided."
my wife will do biometrics on February 8th.

I am worried about my layoff, not sure how it will impact my application. the PNP office in BC told me"As a nominee, you are expected to continue to meet the conditions of nomination, including demonstrating your intent to reside and ability to economically establish in B.C. in order for the BC PNP to continue to support your nomination."
Does that mean I won't get my PR unless I find another job here in BC??

I also kind of have an emergency back home, will leaving Canada at this time negatively impact my application?

Thank you very much.
 

xtremenet2021

Full Member
Jan 17, 2021
46
2
As per IRCC, biographical pages, and pages with visas, markings and stamps have to be uploaded for expired passports and all pages of the current passport.

If the file size is too big, you can include them along with LoE, or send them separately through a webform.
@legalfalcon Hello again!

As per the instructions on GCKey during ITA submission, it's mentioned that:

You must submit a legible copy of your valid travel document which you will use to travel.

If you have a passport, you must provide a copy of:

  • the page that shows your birth date and country of origin, and
  • any pages with stamps, visas or markings.
If you do not have a passport and must use another travel document, it must be issued by a government and include your:

  • name,
  • date of birth,
  • document number,
  • citizenship or residency status,
  • photo, and
  • expiry date (if applicable).


I only submitted the biographical page and the only pages that have stamps or marks on my valid passport. I didn't submit anything related to my old passport when I submitted my ITA. I passed the completeness check and all the other assessments (eligibility, criminality, security, medical, info sharing, etc...)

Should I have submitted the biographical pages and stamps/visas of my old passport also?
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
18,068
9,407
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
@legalfalcon Hello again!

As per the instructions on GCKey during ITA submission, it's mentioned that:

You must submit a legible copy of your valid travel document which you will use to travel.

If you have a passport, you must provide a copy of:

  • the page that shows your birth date and country of origin, and
  • any pages with stamps, visas or markings.
If you do not have a passport and must use another travel document, it must be issued by a government and include your:

  • name,
  • date of birth,
  • document number,
  • citizenship or residency status,
  • photo, and
  • expiry date (if applicable).


I only submitted the biographical page and the only pages that have stamps or marks on my valid passport. I didn't submit anything related to my old passport when I submitted my ITA. I passed the completeness check and all the other assessments (eligibility, criminality, security, medical, info sharing, etc...)

Should I have submitted the biographical pages and stamps/visas of my old passport also?
The old passport is not a mandatory required document, however, if you submit it, it is beneficial. If you did not, no need to worry.

If you want to do it now, you can send it via webform. Either way, it will not be a big issue.
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
18,068
9,407
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Thank you for the prompt reply.
For the proof of funds letter, I received the letter of my savings account from the Bank with all required details today dated 29-Jan-2021. However, they gave the letter with all details of my savings account balance as on closing hours of yesterday's date i.e. 28-Jan-2021.

Is that ok? Bank has said they can only give today's dated letter with balance closing hours of yesterday's date.

Please advise. Thanks
That would be fine as long as you have all the require essential details as asked by IRCC, i.e. adequate funds and the 6 months average balance.

See https://bit.ly/3ptBAiU
 
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legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
18,068
9,407
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Hi @legalfalcon,

Thank you so much for helping everyone around. I have a question and first here is my situation.

EE PNP (BC international graduate stream) inland application with job offer (was working in BC, now laid off), my wife is outland.
AOR April 30th 2020
Medicals passed Sep 3rd.
December 11. I was laid off.
Biometrics for myself done Dec 30th
in my account, it says now "January 6, 2021, We are reviewing the additional documents you provided."
my wife will do biometrics on February 8th.

I am worried about my layoff, not sure how it will impact my application. the PNP office in BC told me"As a nominee, you are expected to continue to meet the conditions of nomination, including demonstrating your intent to reside and ability to economically establish in B.C. in order for the BC PNP to continue to support your nomination."
Does that mean I won't get my PR unless I find another job here in BC??

I also kind of have an emergency back home, will leaving Canada at this time negatively impact my application?

Thank you very much.
See page 12 https://www.welcomebc.ca/getmedia/2a73e874-0d2c-4277-a4fd-178c90a8fb87/BC-PNP-Skills-Immigration-and-Express-Entry-BC-Program-Guide_Addendum.pdf.aspx

You have to inform BC PNP Program about the change in your job status.