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Mieline

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What do you mean by online properties, could you please elaborate.
It's part of gcms, I was told t's about online researches that the cic does to check foreign experience and background.
P.S could you please the question I've sent regarding my eligibility status
 

legalfalcon

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Hello @legalfalcon

Good evening, i have couple of doubts in filling my personal history section. I am planning to submit my application next week. Please advise.

1) In USA, there was an issue with my university, and my F-1 student reinstatement petition was denied. I returned back to India with in 30 days on my own. No proceedings have been initiated against me, but was told in the denial letter that i don't have a lawful immigration status and required to depart US or else file motion to repeal in 33 days. I left on my own within 30 days. I have mentioned about this denial in statutory questions and also in Schedule A form. So what should i write in the status section in USA? Is writing out of status okay for this 30 day period?
Note : This education activity is incomplete and not part of education history.

2) I have an employment in US on a H-1B, where i worked at the client site. The employer ran payslips from his location, and not from my client site or my residing address (Different US state from employer's). Also, i was unpaid for 6 months. I left USA on my own before the H-1B visa expiry date on my passport. I never received any notice from USCIS or from my employer regarding my H-1B cancelled or ordered to leave the US.

a) Is it okay to write activity as unemployed for this period and still mention my employer name in Name of employer field, and write in activity description, my job title and unpaid in brackets and status for this period as H-1B? Or should i write as employed and write unpaid in brackets near job title? Please suggest.
b) Also since my employer ran payslips from his location and not from where i worked and resided, will it cause any problem?
c) I mentioned in addresses history, where i worked and resided accurately. Do i need submit my address or employment proof like utility bill or driving license or pay slips or tax returns for this employment?
d) Even though no points are claimed from this employment, should i explain all these details in my LOE or is it not needed?

Note : This employment is not recent and not part of work history and am not claiming points for the same.

Thanks very much @legalfalcon Appreciate your time and help!
1) Do not write our of status. Just simple answer the statutory questions and explain the situation in the box blow the answer. You should also include a LoE where you explain this in detail and provide all documents that you received from USCIS.

a) Is it okay to write activity as unemployed for this period and still mention my employer name in Name of employer field, and write in activity description, my job title and unpaid in brackets and status for this period as H-1B? Or should i write as employed and write unpaid in brackets near job title? Please suggest.
No, you should mention what you were doing, even if you were unpaid, write unpaid work.

b) Also since my employer ran payslips from his location and not from where i worked and resided, will it cause any problem?
No, if you are claiming points for this work experience, you can explain this in LoE, or if you are not claiming points for this, you can simply say employed in personal history as it will not matter, sldo you don't need to explain the payslips issue then.

c) I mentioned in addresses history, where i worked and resided accurately. Do i need submit my address or employment proof like utility bill or driving license or pay slips or tax returns for this employment?
No.

d) Even though no points are claimed from this employment, should i explain all these details in my LOE or is it not needed?
See above
 

Mieline

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Dear legalfalcon,
Could you please comment my gcms notes. I have an "Eligibility Review Required" case. The last update was on 15th august and they've put Review required on all the items. I raised a CSE, sent LOEs with job duties and un updated POF ( bank letters & statements).

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dcNzoFOnoESN-etRF9Gr_R-NMNJto8jP/view?usp=drivesdk

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iciIxeLKW2sZifJenza3YGiERN5BnmH7/view?usp=drivesdk
Here is the question
 

legalfalcon

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Hi @legalfalcon,

Sry Sry for long post..
I am aug 23rd aor..med/ip1 18th sep/rprf req/paid-2nd/3rd oct..

I hv yet not moved to ip2.bigger worry is as per cic agent last week..my eligibility is yet not met..thou she said file is normal..no negative comment/ adr seen

I feel if the eligibility is req required, wic m not sure, it might b bcoz of pof.

I had shown 20000 cad ( req for 3 is 19100 cad) @53 inr.. but cad reached 57 inr in oct'18..hence as per 53, m approx 900 cad surplus but with 57 m 600 cad short..
I hv ordered notes last week wic i wont get bfdore dec end..shud i send updated pof before hand?

Also, in my initial pof 8lakh was fd n 2.5 liq cash..fd maturity was 31st aug 2018..just week post aor..but after submission of application i renewed my fd..so now the maturity is aug 2019

Will next yr's maturity date b a prob if i send updated pof?

Please advice..thanks

The MyCIC status is irrelevant. Even when there is no change in status, your application may still be moving. If you want to know what stage your application is at, consider requesting GCMS notes.

IRCC takes into account the exchange rate on the date your application is filed. Also be advised that IRCC does not go by the daily exchange, it goes by the average quarterly monthly exchange.

For a FD, as long as you can get it liquidated anytime, there is no problem. You don't need to send an updated PoF.
 

legalfalcon

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legalfalcon

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Thank you for your quick response. We’re just concerned because it’s been 20 months, over the normal processing time.
But thanks again for your time!
This could be due to security. Have you requested GCMS notes?
 

eagle_nsai

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Hey legalfalcon,
CIC says that my mediacals passed, eligibility is passed, criminality also passed ansd security check is ongoing since 20 may 2018. How long this security check could take time?
Gcms says nothing about ss.
- Fsw outland aor 16/03/2018
- ip2 20 may
 

dh5689

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Last friday, sent an email for asking in which VIsa office my application is being processed?

Got response today as below.
  • Your application is located at Local Immigration office in Etobicoke, Ontario.
  • The responsible officer is currently reviewing the application and documents submitted to determine if you and your family members meet the eligibility requirements under PNP class.
So the question is
Is it common to transferred from CIO to etobicoke?
Do i need to worry for this? can you clear the picture why they are doing this?

Thanks
 

lazybone

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Jun 8, 2016
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Last friday, sent an email for asking in which VIsa office my application is being processed?

Got response today as below.
  • Your application is located at Local Immigration office in Etobicoke, Ontario.
  • The responsible officer is currently reviewing the application and documents submitted to determine if you and your family members meet the eligibility requirements under PNP class.
So the question is
Is it common to transferred from CIO to etobicoke?
Do i need to worry for this? can you clear the picture why they are doing this?

Thanks
No..short answer.

I was helping someone else..ran across your query..decided to jump in bud
 

harshala

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09-12-14
Doc's Request.
15-12-14
The MyCIC status is irrelevant. Even when there is no change in status, your application may still be moving. If you want to know what stage your application is at, consider requesting GCMS notes.

IRCC takes into account the exchange rate on the date your application is filed. Also be advised that IRCC does not go by the daily exchange, it goes by the average quarterly monthly exchange.

For a FD, as long as you can get it liquidated anytime, there is no problem. You don't need to send an updated PoF.
Thanks a lot @legalfalcon
However, then what cud b the reason that my eligibility is still not met?
I am clear on rest of the doc part..
I hv claimed points for 6+yrs exp
have submitted all possible docs with reference letter in CIC format.
My current jib itself covers almost 5.2 yrs yrs of the experience at the time of submission.The ref letter was on company letterhead signed by HR
The rest two companies ref letter is on blank paper.as one company is shut n other has policy wic does not allow to gv such letter to employees older than 1yr.
But in that case i got the letters digned from mgrs n hv given their new jobs visitng card n emp Id. and rest docs like offer, exp, confirmation letter r all on letterheads.

Also, all education docs r complete in terms of passing, marksheet, convocation certificate etc

Where cud b the issue for eligibility yet not met?
Or is it normal to not meet for 3 months?
I have ordered noted a week back will wait for that tough but ur inputs are highly appreciated..

Thnkx
 

naaz12

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by gods grace will be there...
Hey legalfalcon,
CIC says that my mediacals passed, eligibility is passed, criminality also passed ansd security check is ongoing since 20 may 2018. How long this security check could take time?
Gcms says nothing about ss.
- Fsw outland aor 16/03/2018
- ip2 20 may
I am having same timeline like yours Aor 6 April, Ip2 20 may and i fear that you may be in Ss, i applied for Cabsa notes and Csis notes From Getgcms.com to make sure abt SS, Do you have s(16) or S(15) on your notes and have information redacted, Also see how many activities are blank before security and Also check informationin admissibility section.
And legalfalcon can better advise on your situation.
 

Richacanada

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Oct 3, 2018
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I have a really important question. For proof of funds, I showed 6 PF Indian accounts totaling to Rs 9.5 lakh. I received Procedural fairness letter as the accounts were in joint name of me and my father. I have time until Nov 30th to show additional letter or proofs. What can I do now?
 

legalfalcon

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Sep 21, 2015
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App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Hey legalfalcon,
CIC says that my mediacals passed, eligibility is passed, criminality also passed ansd security check is ongoing since 20 may 2018. How long this security check could take time?
Gcms says nothing about ss.
- Fsw outland aor 16/03/2018
- ip2 20 may
Security is a complicated issue and can take almost a year if someone if in enhanced security screening. The GCMS notes retract the security related information. To know the security related info, you will need to request CBSA notes. Most CBSA notes do not have this information retracted.

Also, you can request CSIS notes to see if CSIS has completed its involvement in your screening.

To read more see: https://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/threads/the-anatomy-of-a-background-check-in-depth-analysis.500146/

To request CBSA / CSIS notes see https://www.getgcms.com/order-now
 
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legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
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Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Last friday, sent an email for asking in which VIsa office my application is being processed?

Got response today as below.
  • Your application is located at Local Immigration office in Etobicoke, Ontario.
  • The responsible officer is currently reviewing the application and documents submitted to determine if you and your family members meet the eligibility requirements under PNP class.
So the question is
Is it common to transferred from CIO to etobicoke?
Do i need to worry for this? can you clear the picture why they are doing this?

Thanks
IRCC will periodically transfer applications due to workload distribution and there is nothing surprising about it. Extract from one of my older posts:

Visa Office

There has been an obsession of finding which visa office the application is at. Many threads on this forum start with explaining how to find your visa office. Let's get to the crux of it. Finding the visa office was very relevant pre- express entry. Even after the introduction of express entry in 2015, the same practice was followed which usually was for the paper based application, but that is no longer the case. Earlier all application followed the following trajectory:


Central Intake Office - Case Processing Centre - Local Visa Office

However, this has radically changed and for all express entry, all application follow the following:

1. Central Intake Office -
The R10 (completeness check) is done at the Central Intake Office for all classes (FSW / PNP / CEC). Now even the criminality and medicals are done at CIO.

2. Case Processing Centre - There are 4 case processing offices of IRCC, which are as follows:

Sydney, Nova Scotia - Seals with the following:
  • provincial Nominee Program (PNP) – Non-Express Entry applications
  • Centralized Intake Office – Immigrant Investor Program (IIP)
  • Centralized Intake Office – Quebec Skilled Workers (QSW)
  • Centralized Intake Office – Start Up Business Class
  • Centralized Intake Office – Self Employed (SE)
  • Centralized Intake Office – Quebec Business Class (QBC)
  • Centralized Intake Office – Atlantic Immigration Pilot Program
Now has started doing eligibility for EE applications in limited numbers.

Vegreville, Alberta
Deals with Specialized permanent resident application. Those following in the category of Medical needs, work permits, work permits for spouses, study permits, co-op permits. EE applications which have a downgraded category.

This is the place where you EE application will land if any of the members in the application have a medical condition. This is where determinations of refusal, monitoring etc are made.

Now has started doing eligibility for EE applications in limited numbers.

Mississauga, Ontario
Only deals with family class PR applications.
No EE applications are dealt here so far.

Ottawa, Ontario
This is the most important processing office for all EE, and it is also the Local Visa Office for in-land applicants and those applying from USA.

3. Local Visa Office - This is the office where you will be asked to submit your passport after your application has been approved. Usually the consulate in your home country.

These days all application after starting at CIO (where R10 is met), either start the processing of eligibility at CIO itself, or move to CPC (wither Ottawa, Sydney, or Vegreville), or are straight sent to the LVO. The trend has been to complete most of the processing between CIO and CPC. Since the applications are electronically stored, there is no movement of physical files.

SUGGESTION - There is no point sending emails to ask which VO your application is at, as that process is moot since the eligibility can even start at CIO. So save yourself some time and efforts and also save the human resources of IRCC and stop sending emails. Even if you know which VO your application is at, it means nothing. Most applications which are processed within weeks and get PPR, are processed at CIO, and this is a much faster way.

A few applications will see eligibility passed, and then go to not started when the application is sent to the LVO. This is because the final review is done at the LVO, and the local agent may decide to conduct additional review, or identification before the eligibility is finally set to PASSED.


What matters is that your application is progressing and moving on. It has to pass the following stages:

Tracking your application

Unfortunately the only thing that you see is your MyCIC account. There has been a growing trend of speculation where change of status on MyCIC has been attributed to eligibility being passed, etc. The whole NA, IP IP2 is speculation and has no bearing on determining which stage your application is at. While any change of status is a good sign, but merely relying on NA and IP is not the correct way.

Most applicants will find it irrelevant, as their applications will be processed and approved within the first 3-4 months. It is those who wait for more than 4 months, where things go crazy as they keep relying on NA, IP etc, and see no movement or progress. Many other are stuck on so called IP2, and the PPR never seems to come.

So put these speculative theories to rest. As per the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act, regulations and the ministeral instructions every application goes through the following stages:

R10 (Completeness check)
Medicals
Criminality
A11.2 Eligibility (The most important stage)
Security

To read more on each stage click here. While most applicants will not need to go this deep, but for those who have concerns about the application or it is taking too long should see which stage they are at. Also, the only way to determine the stage is by GCMS notes. To read more on GCMS notes, see the thread here.