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legalfalcon

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Thanks a lot @legalfalcon

Also the reason for her to be excluded in the beginning was her father met with an accident in Mar and expected to have some one to help his mother till some time. However now her father and mother have forced her to accompany me to by pass family sponsorship since it will take more time to get. So what proofs and explanation can I mention about this in LOE. Thanks for your help
Are you post ITA or pre ITA?
 

legalfalcon

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@legalfalcon : Any inside view about PNP - Out-lander application delay? I have seen many applicants starting from April to July are stacked at NA2 with in short period of time and now there is no movement since last one month.
There was a flood of applications for PNP as the CRS did not go down and they are overwhelmed. Also, IRCC has its own priorities. A few days ago the Provinces and the Federal Government have reached an agreement to increase the cap of immigrants under PNP, so this should lead to some results.

See https://www.cicnews.com/2017/09/federal-provincial-ministers-reach-consensus-on-increasing-canadian-immigration-levels-099561.html#gs.GtvpxKw
 

Ganiroy

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Are you post ITA or pre ITA?
Hey @legalfalcon

Seems like I am confusing you with this. Sorry for that, Let me put forward it again..

I created my EE in Aug mentioning Spouse not accompanying and got my ITA in Aug itself. However, now the situations has changed as explained in the previous post, she is ready to accompany me, so I am willing to change the spouse accompany status in "Modify Family Information" tab and provide her ECA details as well. Only then I will be having score greater than Aug cuttoff.
Now I am assuming from your previous answer that I can change spouse accompany status to Yes.
--> You can definitely change your spouse's status from non-accompanying to accompanying. However, it will affect your CRS score as spouse's education and language skills are added. So if that does not affect your CRS you can go ahead and change it, but you will need to justify it in the LoE.

1) But Can I add her ECA since it is dated as of Sep?? (ITA got in Aug and secondary applicant ECA in Sep)
2) And also How to explain the change in situation in LOE ??

I need to submit the documents accordingly. I have her fathers medical reports, would that be sufficient or do I need to submit anything else along with LOE?
 

legalfalcon

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We received GCMS form you and need your expert opinion on few questions, please kindly help.
a) On page 4 of the notes there is mentioned "Counterfoil required: YES" (this is in Client details section), is this normal or something to worry?, what does this means? This is normal, nothing to worry.
b) On page 41 there is something mentioned as "item requested (1)- kit, application form" (in correspondence section). We received no request for anything, what does this means? Usually kits are send in response to a request. This could be an error.
c) The most serious question, Eligibility went from "not started" to "calculation in progress" to "review required" and the to "met" on the same day. I am extremely worried that to do all people get this or was the "review required" some anomaly that they checked and then changed to met, is this something to be worried about and take action for?? Review required can show up for a lot of reasons. If your notes say the eligibility is passed, you are all good.
Like on page 58 of GCMS Eligibility goes as- met, old- review required, old- calculation in progress, old- not started.

THE MOST IMPORTANT QUESTION- I have underlined the doubtful and worriesome part in red in the below text, rest all written in black is exactly as from my GCMS. (Though lines do not finsh where they finished in the original, i don't think that'll make a difference lol)
Under Notes 4 at the end under NOTES, on page 75 under the label EE Eligibility,
It says,

Text
REVIEW TYPE: Program assistant APPLICATION #E00000000 REGULATION: FSW I have reviewed this file based on the documents submitted by the applicant and information contained in the file and note the following. MIN SCORE: 415 CRS SCORE: 446 Principal applicant application promoted: Existing UCI Review Notes for representative: Has Representative Rep Number:XYXZX Rep info: John Doe Primary Applicant Medical attached to UCI: Yes Client fees: Verified---- LANGUAGES----- Principal Applicant 1-English-IELTS and Met threshold and Verified----EDUCATION---- Primary Applicant 1 ECA report Verified on issuing agency website; foreign credential conformed on ECA site ECA Canadian Equivalency Summary reported by issuing agency as Bachelor's Degree (Four years) and postgraduate degree (one year) Foreign credential provided----- POLICE CERTIFICATE------ Primary Applicant 1- India police certificate provided R10 OK
Recommendation: Review required------ AGE------- Applicants age reviewed and No change from ITA to e-APR Statutory details located in separate GCMS note.
Now my question is what is the meaning of this? Which review is required here? is it R10 or police Certificate or AGE?? This so confusing and worrying!! No commas etc to know which sentence finishes where!! Please help me in this regard its super important!
What should be done to resolve this review, there is nothing else mentioned further about the review AFAIK????



This note is by a program assistant. The eligibility takes place in 2 stages, first by a program assistant and then by the IRCC agent. If there are any concerns, the program assistant will defer it to the agent. So see the agent notes for clarification.


Another Important question regarding Eligibility only, at then end under NOTES and under Notes 1 and EE eligibilty label, under Agent review on page 75 it says- On based of docs provided and information contained in application"A11.2 decision: Met 75(2), FSW Minimum Requirements: Appears met 76(1)(a), Selection criteria FSW points: Appears met FSW points: 69 Comprehensive ranking system at ITA: 446 Current CRS Score:446 I have reviewd information and documents for the CRS points for the following: PA Awarded points as single at ITA and APR PA awarded points for 1 year Foreign work experience with xyz company, PA awarded pints for Bachelor and post grad diploma, Primary NOC: 2122 with xyz company Submitted reference letter confirms applicants employment throughout specified period and describes duties which are consistent with skill level A NOC. Reference letter confirms full time employment. eDoc. 12345678.
Now my question is that is this "apperas to met" the standard way or something is not sure here to them?? and is Met (75) and Met (76) standard and not signify anything specific??

Appears met, recommended passed are the same. Nothing to worry about here. The review required above by the program assistant is for the agent to look into the eligibility and after you have the agent review, you are clear.


I would highly appreciate inputs and advice.


******At the end there are few questions also mentioned, few are regarding "have you ever applied to IRCC and CIC before" to which answer is displayed as "N", few are regarding representative details and consent, what does these questions signify.
I had a refusal in past for study visa which we had mentioned in the application, but the representative told that to the above questions answer should be No, can this cause a huge issue, if yes then what should be done to immediately resolve this, please help. On the edge, put so much in this and all on risk due to my representative's mistake!

Also under Notes 2 (under label General), ***Agent review*** says Police certificates R10 OK criminality decision passed.
This is dated 14/7/2017 (date NA2 began) and the review required notes are dated 11/7/2017 (date ip1 started), can you please check and share some insight.
@gurik
 
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canada201417

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There was a flood of applications for PNP as the CRS did not go down and they are overwhelmed. Also, IRCC has its own priorities. A few days ago the Provinces and the Federal Government have reached an agreement to increase the cap of immigrants under PNP, so this should lead to some results.

See https://www.cicnews.com/2017/09/federal-provincial-ministers-reach-consensus-on-increasing-canadian-immigration-levels-099561.html#gs.GtvpxKw
Thank You. I hope to see PPR email this year...
 
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sam_dawkins

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2174
Doc's Request.
04-01-2017 (RCMP Criminal Record Check) Submitted 20-01-2017
Nomination.....
16-09-2016
AOR Received.
24-10-2016
IELTS Request
Upfront
Med's Request
Upfront
Passport Req..
25-11-2017
VISA ISSUED...
02-01-2018
LANDED..........
11-01-2018
This usually happens when you do not make it clear to the nature of the request. The request, which for CBSA is a sentence or two should be narrow enough. If you simply ask for your application details, they will send IRCC. However if you narrow it down, they will send what they have on record.
thanks for your reply. In the request I specifically said I want to know security check information regarding my PR application. Actually I sent same request to both CSIS and CBSA. CSIS has sent me a proper gcms note which states when they started and completed my security screening which was a 2 page note. Don't know how CBSA could interpret it differently.
 

ameydixit

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Feb 22 AOR (completed 7 months)

Raised a CSE and got the following reply. It seems totally worthless to me. If anyone else has another opinion please do share.

"Thank you for contacting Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada (IRCC).

We verified the information you provided and are pleased to inform you that everything appears to be in order with your application.


Rest assured that you will be informed as soon as a decision is reached or if additional information is needed.

We hope the information provided is helpful in assisting you with your enquiry."
 

Aali005

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Feb 22 AOR (completed 7 months)

Raised a CSE and got the following reply. It seems totally worthless to me. If anyone else has another opinion please do share.

"Thank you for contacting Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada (IRCC).

We verified the information you provided and are pleased to inform you that everything appears to be in order with your application.


Rest assured that you will be informed as soon as a decision is reached or if additional information is needed.

We hope the information provided is helpful in assisting you with your enquiry."
It is positive response and I'm sure you will get good news soon.
When did you raise CSE? And after how many days you received their response?
 

nazmulhoque

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Passport Req..
Waiting
Security is the last stage of the application process, usually after the eligibility is done. the Security or the BGC is done at the LVO. If the security status shows not started, look for any retracted information in your notes, it will have s15/16 on the top right of that page.

That is an indication that the security may have started.
Thank you for your considerate reply. I don't see anything like 's15/16' for security on GCMS.

All I can see is Security: Not Started. My file is currently at a local visa office waiting for a final review. I am approaching 190 days since AoR. Can this cause any further delay?

GCMS shows A11.2 Review: Met and Program Assistant Review Recommend Pass, R10-Okay.
 

nazmulhoque

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Feb 21, 2017
142
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Passport Req..
Waiting
Feb 22 AOR (completed 7 months)

Raised a CSE and got the following reply. It seems totally worthless to me. If anyone else has another opinion please do share.

"Thank you for contacting Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada (IRCC).

We verified the information you provided and are pleased to inform you that everything appears to be in order with your application.


Rest assured that you will be informed as soon as a decision is reached or if additional information is needed.

We hope the information provided is helpful in assisting you with your enquiry."
Do you know which visa office is processing your file?
 

ezio

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Dec 1, 2016
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Hi Legalfalcon,

I just received my GCMS notes and need your expert opinion on an issue, please kindly help.
I have a sub-activity named Non-Compliance under Other requests assessment. I believe it is related to the military records that I provided based on their request. It's status is cancelled and I wounder whats could'v happened.
You can find the details in those images:

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https://ibb.co/e25jB5
https://ibb.co/dmXLjQ

Thank you and I would appreciate your help.
 

Canadianspirit

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Feb 2, 2017
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Dear Legalfalcon currently my spouse is in UAE and I am the primary applicant staying in the US for temporary work reasons and we applied together and now we need to send passports. How do you think I should go about that? Can he send his passport in UAE while I send mine to Ottawa or how does this work?

Also their deadline is 30 days what if I have to travel within these 30 days?
 

legalfalcon

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AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
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05-04-2016
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12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Hey @legalfalcon

Seems like I am confusing you with this. Sorry for that, Let me put forward it again..

I created my EE in Aug mentioning Spouse not accompanying and got my ITA in Aug itself. However, now the situations has changed as explained in the previous post, she is ready to accompany me, so I am willing to change the spouse accompany status in "Modify Family Information" tab and provide her ECA details as well. Only then I will be having score greater than Aug cuttoff.
Now I am assuming from your previous answer that I can change spouse accompany status to Yes.
--> You can definitely change your spouse's status from non-accompanying to accompanying. However, it will affect your CRS score as spouse's education and language skills are added. So if that does not affect your CRS you can go ahead and change it, but you will need to justify it in the LoE.

1) But Can I add her ECA since it is dated as of Sep?? (ITA got in Aug and secondary applicant ECA in Sep)



2) And also How to explain the change in situation in LOE ??

I need to submit the documents accordingly. I have her fathers medical reports, would that be sufficient or do I need to submit anything else along with LOE?
As per IRCC when evaluating applications:

Express Entry candidates are responsible for ensuring that the information in their profile is accurate and up-to-date at all times.

When a candidate is issued an ITA, their profile information and their CRS score are automatically recorded in GCMS.

If a candidate decides to submit an e-APR, the system automatically transfers the information from their profile to their e-APR for their convenience. The candidate is required to ensure that the information is still accurate before they submit their e-APR to IRCC. If the information transferred from the candidate’s profile is no longer accurate, the candidate must update their application accordingly.

When an applicant submits an e-APR to IRCC, the information in their application is locked, and their CRS score at the time of their application is recorded in GCMS.

Processing offices must compare the information in the applicant’s profile at the time of the round of invitations to the information in their e-APR to ensure that the applicant meets the requirements of section A11.2. Note that not all discrepancies should result in a refusal.


Further, when evaluating an application under A11.2 -

An applicant’s CRS score is automatically recorded in GCMS at the time when

  • their ITA is issued; and
  • their e-APR is submitted.
At the time of the e-APR, processing officers should compare both CRS scores to determine which of the following scenarios should be applied:

  • If the applicant’s CRS score at the time of the e-APR is equal to or higher than the lowest-ranked score in the round of invitations, the application will not be refused under section A11.2, as long as the applicant’s supporting documentation corroborates their claims and they continue to meet the MEC for Express Entry, including the requirements of the program to which they were invited to apply.
  • If the applicant’s CRS score at the time of the e-APR is lower than the lowest-ranked score in the round of invitations, the application should be refused under section A11.2 for not having maintained the qualifications that would justify the ITA.
However, the change in the circumstances, or a discrepancy should be genuine and not done as a misrepresentation. To evaluate that you will need a well drafted LoE and evidence to support it. In this regards IRCC states:


Applicants are warned that if they misrepresent their qualifications in their Express Entry profile or their e-APR, they may face a five-year ban from submitting any further immigration applications to Canada, including temporary residence applications.

If there are discrepancies between the information in the applicant’s profile and the information in the applicant’s e-APR which are not the result of a legitimate change in the applicant’s circumstance, the officer should determine whether a finding of misrepresentation under section A40 applies.

For additional guidance on misrepresentation, processing offices should consult the misrepresentation section of chapter ENF 2 (PDF, 726.46 KB). When processing Provincial Nominee Program (PNP) applications, processing offices should also consult PNP applications: Determining Admissibility.

The procedures for determining misrepresentation, including procedural fairness, remain the same under Express Entry.

If both section A11.2 and section A40 apply, the application should be refused on both grounds.
 
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legalfalcon

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AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
thanks for your reply. In the request I specifically said I want to know security check information regarding my PR application. Actually I sent same request to both CSIS and CBSA. CSIS has sent me a proper gcms note which states when they started and completed my security screening which was a 2 page note. Don't know how CBSA could interpret it differently.
The statement you cited above is inaccurate and does not reflect the exact information you had sought. See my upcoming blog post on SS, coming in next 48 hours.
 
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