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tubkal

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Hello friends I need help.. can anyone tell me how to send police certificate and schedule form through webfom.. I have representative he can send through webfom.. please let me know.. thank you
Hey I sent it through the webform and received an email a week later acknowledging its receipt. You should have instructions on how to submit it on the email they sent you. You can also submit it through the GCKey platform if you linked your application there.
 
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Hanouni

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Hi guys i have a question if someone got their copr while they are inside canada as a visitor do they have to leave and get back in? Or what is the right thing to do?
(Ouland application)
 
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tubkal

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Hi guys i have a question if someone got their copr while they are inside canada as a visitor do they have to leave and get back in? Or what is the right thing to do?
You can either flagpole, leave and return or validate it at an IRCC office. Most inland applicants are receiving eCOPRs which don't require leaving Canada
 
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armoured

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You can either flagpole, leave and return or validate it at an IRCC office. Most inland applicants are receiving eCOPRs which don't require leaving Canada
Outland applicants who are in Canada when they receive ppr can do the same virtual landing as inland applicants.

If IRCC knows the applicant is in Canada, they should offer this as default.
 
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Tammu

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I have PR .I recently got married and applied visitor visa for my spouse . After waiting for two months we lost hope on visitor visa approval and applied for spouse PR and not received AOR yet … now we got passport request for visitor visa. She may travel to canada immediately. What will happen to our Outland spousal sponsorship? What is the best case for my spouse to get PR. If she gets Spousal PR approved while she is in Canada, does she need to go to home country ?
 

Jazzed

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I have PR .I recently got married and applied visitor visa for my spouse . After waiting for two months we lost hope on visitor visa approval and applied for spouse PR and not received AOR yet … now we got passport request for visitor visa. She may travel to canada immediately. What will happen to our Outland spousal sponsorship? What is the best case for my spouse to get PR. If she gets Spousal PR approved while she is in Canada, does she need to go to home country ?
Did you read armoured message above you?
He said:
Outland applicants who are in Canada when they receive ppr can do the same virtual landing as inland applicants.

If IRCC knows the applicant is in Canada, they should offer this as default.

Same applies to you. Once your spouse arrives in Canada you update IRCC with her new address.

If they require an interview she may have to leave but not all applications lead to an interview.
 

mapple007

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@Jazzed, @armoured, and @Kaibigan, thanks again, folks!

To update regarding the certified true copy issue: We managed to get a certified true copy of my spouse's birth certificate from the Consulate General of Mexico here in Vancouver. All we had to do was make an appointment 3 days ahead and pay $21 in cash for the service. My spouse went and picked it up with no issues.

Additional question:
- Now that we have a certified true copy in Spanish, we need to get it translated to English or French. It's noted that the translator will need to stamp both the translated copy, and a certified copy. We've phoned around to all the translation services out there, and none is willing to have us mail in the physical certified true copy to be translated and stamped. They say to submit a scanned copy online. Whilst we can do this, we are inherently making a non-certified copy by scanning it. Will this copy need to be certified by a notary public again once the translation is done and the scanned copy is stamped by the translator to certify that it matches with our original certified true copy we got from the consulate?

This is such a headache (and I apologise for another dense forest of a paragraph above but I hope it makes sense); we just don't want to risk having the application sent back as incomplete due to some stupid bureaucratic red tapes.

Thank you in advance!

Original post from me below:
Hi guys, hope everyone's having a lovely evening!

I (current PR) am sponsoring my wife (Mexican) via the inland spousal sponsorship application. We have a few questions and doubts, hoping any kind souls who've had experience with this process can help out:
  • Background: Under the Country specific requirements, it's noted as followed:
    • Mexico – Instruction(s) for documents
    • "Official documents issued by this country must be government-certified true copies (copies certified as authentic by the issuing governmental authority, signed and sealed)."
  • Questions:
    1. What are the documents that you need to get government-certified true copies of?
      • Birth certificate and passport? Anything else?
    2. How did you do get the government-certified true copies from inside Canada?
      • Did you visit the local Mexican (or your respective country) embassy?
      • Is the process different and separated for the birth certificate and the passport?
      • Please kindly outline a step-by-step process.
    3. If you had to return to Mexico or your respective country to get these certified copies from the "issuing governmental authority", please kindly share the process.
My wife has her original birth certificate here with her in Canada along with her current passport. We were initially under the impression that we just had to get them translated by a certified translator, and include a photocopy of the original and the certified translated copy in the package. We later found out that the photocopy of the originals need to be <fancy-pants>government-certified true copies</fancy-pants> as stated above.

As a veteran of this forum, I trust that there are people who've had the same questions and experience and are able to help. I combed through Google, this forum, reddit, etc., but was not able to find any clear answers. Any insights would be greatly appreciated!

Thank you in advance! :D
 

armoured

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We've phoned around to all the translation services out there, and none is willing to have us mail in the physical certified true copy to be translated and stamped. They say to submit a scanned copy online. Whilst we can do this, we are inherently making a non-certified copy by scanning it.
You overthink things too much. Listen to the translators in Canada - they've done this before, you haven't.

The way I'd ask them to do it: scan the certified true copy and have them attach that scan to the electronic version of the translation.

(In general while you're possibly technically right, reality in Canada is a bit more relaxed and the translators can be contacted by authorities [if needed, never happens] to confirm that what they translated was the thing. It's part of their professional thing to potentially have to testify and assume a small amount of liability for the power to certify things. A bit like a notary also has liability.)
 
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Jazzed

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@Jazzed, @armoured, and @Kaibigan, thanks again, folks!

To update regarding the certified true copy issue: We managed to get a certified true copy of my spouse's birth certificate from the Consulate General of Mexico here in Vancouver. All we had to do was make an appointment 3 days ahead and pay $21 in cash for the service. My spouse went and picked it up with no issues.

Additional question:
- Now that we have a certified true copy in Spanish, we need to get it translated to English or French. It's noted that the translator will need to stamp both the translated copy, and a certified copy. We've phoned around to all the translation services out there, and none is willing to have us mail in the physical certified true copy to be translated and stamped. They say to submit a scanned copy online. Whilst we can do this, we are inherently making a non-certified copy by scanning it. Will this copy need to be certified by a notary public again once the translation is done and the scanned copy is stamped by the translator to certify that it matches with our original certified true copy we got from the consulate?

This is such a headache (and I apologise for another dense forest of a paragraph above but I hope it makes sense); we just don't want to risk having the application sent back as incomplete due to some stupid bureaucratic red tapes.

Thank you in advance!

Original post from me below:

Don't take this the wrong way but you are absolutely the best.

My husband is half Russian half German and is a real stickler for all the rules and not to mention if I dare butch any of the two languages in my clumsy attempts to speak them with him.

But I think you have him beat.


To summarize I agree with @armoured you are over thinking
 

mapple007

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You overthink things too much. Listen to the translators in Canada - they've done this before, you haven't.

The way I'd ask them to do it: scan the certified true copy and have them attach that scan to the electronic version of the translation.

(In general while you're possibly technically right, reality in Canada is a bit more relaxed and the translators can be contacted by authorities [if needed, never happens] to confirm that what they translated was the thing. It's part of their professional thing to potentially have to testify and assume a small amount of liability for the power to certify things. A bit like a notary also has liability.)

Thanks a lot for the reassurance, @armoured !

We tend to overthink things, yeah o_O. I know from experience with my own PR application that they can be quite relaxed when it comes to the minute details. Albeit, they can also be quite inconsistent with that leniency, and we just want to make sure we have all of our bases covered. I think we've gone above and beyond what most people would do with their applications, so we'll try to relax a little with all the technicalities!
 
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armoured

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My husband is half Russian half German and is a real stickler for all the rules and not to mention if I dare butch any of the two languages in my clumsy attempts to speak them with him.
This reminds me of those stereotype-jokes, 'heaven is where Italians are the cooks [etc] and hell where the English are the cooks', etc.

Hell is Russian grammar and German precision. Ask your husband if he would ever actually say in real life "пятьюстами рублями" (declension of five hundred rubles). Only true freaks would.
 
 

mapple007

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Don't take this the wrong way but you are absolutely the best.

My husband is half Russian half German and is a real stickler for all the rules and not to mention if I dare butch any of the two languages in my clumsy attempts to speak them with him.

But I think you have him beat.


To summarize I agree with @armoured you are over thinking
You think you overthink things? I noticed that I wrote "overthink things too much", which is redundant, and I have to restrain myself from going back and editing it.

Oh the hell with it, I'm going to edit it, it'll annoy me for days otherwise.
My wife just read your responses and she said she'll need your contact information to start a support group/intervention for me, LOL!
 
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mapple007

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You think you overthink things? I noticed that I wrote "overthink things too much", which is redundant, and I have to restrain myself from going back and editing it.

Oh the hell with it, I'm going to edit it, it'll annoy me for days otherwise.
By the way, I think that your original text was also correct if you consider "overthink" as a particular action; in which case, that action can certainly be done to an extent that is too much or too many times! :D