Reasons for Rejection

[CanadaWeCome]

CIC has specifically mentioned that PCC should be issues after applicant leaves the country.

No, CIC says "since you last stayed in that country or go there to live." Not if you go there for an official/pleasure trip of a week or 10 days or leaves the country permanently after a few (week or 10 days) days.

The exact quote from CIC website http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/perm/express/intake-complete.asp is below:

"For countries in which the applicant no longer lives, the police certificate must have been issued after the last time the client lived in that country."

 

[gulhayo_a]

No, CIC says "since you last stayed in that country or go there to live." Not if you go there for an official/pleasure trip of a week or 10 days.

The exact quote from CIC website http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/perm/express/intake-complete.asp is below:

"For countries in which the applicant no longer lives, the police certificate must have been issued after the last time the client lived in that country."

To be exact, he lived in Dubai almost 2 years. He left Dubai on the 6th December, 2014, and his PCC was given on the 24th Nov. 2014. He also got his visa cancelled around that time because he would not be returning for good and he hasnt returned ever since.

The PCC is only valid for 3 months in Dubai, everyone is giving different answers, not sure which one to act upon. Thats why im so confused

 

[PiyushAgrawal06121985]

To be exact, he lived in Dubai almost 2 years. He left Dubai on the 6th December, 2014, and his PCC was given on the 24th Nov. 2014. He also got his visa cancelled around that time because he would not be returning for good and he hasnt returned ever since.

The PCC is only valid for 3 months in Dubai, everyone is giving different answers, not sure which one to act upon. Thats why im so confused

Since he lived for 2 years he would definitely need a PCC from Dubai. IMHO, you would need your PCC issued after you left the country.

If he gets one issued now, it would be the correct thing IMO.

 

[Hot2Cold]

Hello everyone!

I am on the verge of submitting my docs to CIC after receiving an ITA.
But i have an issue.
My husband has credit dues from Dubai, where he lived for about 2 months.
He has a police cert, but it is old and now we will need a renewed one.
However, since he has missed some payments the banks have put penalties and large interests and again he couldnt pay the full amount, BUT he does pay monthly and we have a bank statement,. but he started paying them off these last 3-4 months. The bank has said they will file a criminal case against him and someone offered to check thru dubai- and apparently he does in fact have check bounces on his name?
So now the police certificate will show these liabilities and maybe the bank has filed this as a criminal case?
What are the chances? Do we get a rejection due to this type of a police certificate?
Please help!

PS. I have 29 days left to apply, and the UAE embassy in my country said that the police cert will only come in 60 days.

If you had/have an Emirates ID, then use that to apply for a PCC online from https://www.dubaipolice.gov.ae/dp/jsps/services/good_conduct_certificate_request.do?switchLanguage=en.

It will only take 3 days, and you can then see if the PCC has any criminal proceedings.

 

[gulhayo_a]

Can't comment on the 2nd part of the issue, but i guess the 1st part of the issue of PCC obtained just a week or two before leaving the country for good is still unanswered by many experts on this forum including the CIC website.

I would be curious to know what happens if the PCC is obtained a few weeks (1-2) or say a month (max) before leaving the country for good and never to return there.
Will that PCC be acceptable by CIC?

Dear @gulhayo_a if the answer to the above is Yes, your 1st problem of PCC is also solved because in that case you won't need another PCC from UAE.

Dear @CanadaWeCome

He left the country for good just after 2 weeks of his police cert?

 

[cjs]

No, CIC says "since you last stayed in that country or go there to live." Not if you go there for an official/pleasure trip of a week or 10 days or leaves the country permanently after a few (week or 10 days) days.

The exact quote from CIC website http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/perm/express/intake-complete.asp is below:

"For countries in which the applicant no longer lives, the police certificate must have been issued after the last time the client lived in that country."

That is what i meant
"For countries in which the applicant no longer lives, the police certificate must have been issued after the last time the client lived in that country."

 

[gulhayo_a]

That is what i meant
"For countries in which the applicant no longer lives, the police certificate must have been issued after the last time the client lived in that country."

Thats a good point. thus, i need a new one?

 

[Can.ott]

Just an Update CIC has increased the minimum funds requirement from $11,910 per person to $12,164 per person. some of us here might wanna review

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/funds.asp

 

[ppahuja]

Since he lived for 2 years he would definitely need a PCC from Dubai. IMHO, you would need your PCC issued after you left the country.

If he gets one issued now, it would be the correct thing IMO.

If you had/have an Emirates ID, then use that to apply for a PCC online from https://www.dubaipolice.gov.ae/dp/jsps/services/good_conduct_certificate_request.do?switchLanguage=en.

It will only take 3 days, and you can then see if the PCC has any criminal proceedings.

Thats a good point. thus, i need a new one?

I second the thoughts shared by Piyush above. Yes, you need to get a new one at the earliest possibility per inputs from Hot2Cold.

 

[smallcoffee2milk]

Thats a good point. thus, i need a new one?

From someone who just got his PR app rejected because of PCC issue: (I could be wrong, as i'm still digging the wordings on my rejection letter)

Your or your spouse's PCC has to cover all the time period you listed in your personal history in a specific country if you lived there for 6 months or more. For example if you lived in country A for 2 years, then your PCC has to cover all these 2 years in that country. However after you left country A which you lived and you travel back for vacation/trip/business on a short period of time say a week or 2 weeks, you will have to list it under travel history but your PCC doesn't have to cover that period.

 

[CanadaWeCome]

From someone who just got his PR app rejected because of PCC issue: (I could be wrong, as i'm still digging the wordings on my rejection letter)

Your or your spouse's PCC has to cover all the time period you listed in your personal history in a specific country if you lived there for 6 months or more. For example if you lived in country A for 2 years, then your PCC has to cover all these 2 years in that country. However after you left country A which you lived and you travel back for vacation/trip/business on a short period of time say a week or 2 weeks, you will have to list it under travel history but your PCC doesn't have to cover that period.

Is this correct, especially the last part of your sentence?

 

[maged_mmh]

From someone who just got his PR app rejected because of PCC issue: (I could be wrong, as i'm still digging the wordings on my rejection letter)

Your or your spouse's PCC has to cover all the time period you listed in your personal history in a specific country if you lived there for 6 months or more. For example if you lived in country A for 2 years, then your PCC has to cover all these 2 years in that country. However after you left country A which you lived and you travel back for vacation/trip/business on a short period of time say a week or 2 weeks, you will have to list it under travel history but your PCC doesn't have to cover that period.

Are you pretty sure about this statement? can you please provide a supporting reference?

Also, does the same apply if the business trips were Prior to the live-in period?

The reason being, is I read here in the forum that one person had his application rejected because his PCC from Qatar did not cover his business travels, which he did not and will never avail since Qatar authorities only issue PCCs for permanent residents and not to visitors.

 

[smallcoffee2milk]

Is this correct, especially the last part of your sentence?

I could be wrong, but I got that idea based on what's written on my refusal letter.

Based on the travel history we put in, the last travel trip we took back to our home country was at the end of 2015 for 2 weeks, but they said on the letter that the last residence in my spouse's home country was that 1 month in 2012 we put in under personal history section when she's unemployed and that's her summer vacation between school semesters.

 

[smallcoffee2milk]

Are you pretty sure about this statement? can you please provide a supporting reference?

Also, does the same apply if the business trips were Prior to the live-in period?

The reason being, is I read here in the forum that one person had his application rejected because his PCC from Qatar did not cover his business travels, which he did not and will never avail since Qatar authorities only issue PCCs for permanent residents and not to visitors.

I can show you the reason they rejected my app.

Specifically, your application does not include the following elements:
o The Police certificate for your spouse, XXXXX, from CHINA was issued prior to
their last residence in that country. The Police certificate was issued on 12 January 2016
and covered the period from 8 March 1993 to 23 March 2010. Their last residence in
this country was 8 August 2012 to 9 September 2012 as entered on the address history.

So basically after September 2012, she took 2 more trips back to China, one in the end of 2013 and one in the end of 2015, all for 2 weeks maximum. They didn't say the last residence was any of these 2 on the letter, so I'm only guessing based on the fact. I could totally be wrong still.

 

[CanadaWeCome]

I could be wrong, but I got that idea based on what's written on my refusal letter.

Based on the travel history we put in, the last travel trip we took back to our home country was at the end of 2015 for 2 weeks, but they said on the letter that the last residence in my spouse's home country was that 1 month in 2012 we put in under personal history section when she's unemployed and that's her summer vacation between school semesters.

Just to clarify...

A) What is the past period of stay in the country covered by your PCC?

B) Do you mean your PCC submitted with your application didn't cover either

• 1month in 2012 (her summer vacation) or
• end of 2015 for 2 weeks?

Or both?