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dreamercec

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Jan 30, 2021
336
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Hi
received my GCMS today.. ordered them way back on feb.
There I can see it is mentioned the documents set for review: Client Information

and on incoming documents where client information is mentioned its again written review required.

Can anybody enlighten me on this?


I have another question, do cic ask us in our application that was the work experience done during full time study? Because i remember it doesnt.

because i have following thing mentioned

Studying Full Time at Same Time: No
Primary Occupation NOC: 401100
but at that time I was a full time student as the NOC is 4012 (research assistant) But i remember there was no such check for yes or no mentioning whether we were full time students or not (this is foreign experience and foreign education i am talking about)

@legalfalcon
you will need to be more clear and precise. I am not sure I understand what you mean with 4012 but being 4011 while being student.
 

Drzee

Star Member
Dec 15, 2020
76
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you will need to be more clear and precise. I am not sure I understand what you mean with 4012 but being 4011 while being student.
well
I have 2 work experiences in 4011 (2 years 7 months; primary occupation)
and 4012 (3 years 6 months; earned with my PhD in process NOT from Canada)
i wanted to ask does at any point in work experience does CIC asked that was it done with full time education in the same duration?

Secondly wanted to ask
what does documents set for review: Client information means
 

VVV62

Star Member
Feb 11, 2021
52
43
Category........
FSW
AOR Received.
15-10-2020
Med's Done....
26-11-2020
well
I have 2 work experiences in 4011 (2 years 7 months; primary occupation)
and 4012 (3 years 6 months; earned with my PhD in process NOT from Canada)
i wanted to ask does at any point in work experience does CIC asked that was it done with full time education in the same duration?

Secondly wanted to ask
what does documents set for review: Client information means
Hi Drzee!

I'm also a PhD from outside Canada, and during my preparations for the express entry process I surfed a lot of resources and concluded the following:
1) One of many requirements of education assessment organizations (WES in particular) is that any education (including a doctorate) has to be full-time.
2) No working experience can be counted if it took place during studies, because:
a) during full-time studentship a student can have only a part-time job;
b) only a full-time job with a minimum of 35 h/w can be counted as appropriate working experience for which this student can earn additional points.

As I understand it right, CIC checks the time periods of all your studies and working positions, and if they notice some intersections which violate the 2 aforementioned points, they flags your application with the "Review Required" label because they don't know what to think: it's an occasional mistake, a possible mispresentation based on misunderstanding of the assessment criterias, or even a fraud stemming from the desire to get more CRS points.
 
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îleless

Star Member
Jan 23, 2021
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well
I have 2 work experiences in 4011 (2 years 7 months; primary occupation)
and 4012 (3 years 6 months; earned with my PhD in process NOT from Canada)
i wanted to ask does at any point in work experience does CIC asked that was it done with full time education in the same duration?

Secondly wanted to ask
what does documents set for review: Client information means

I'm not certain but I think the RR for Client Information might be for an LoE if you submitted one?
 
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toma1990

Member
Nov 7, 2020
17
9
Bangladesh
Category........
FSW
NOC Code......
1112
AOR Received.
02-10-2020
Got the following reply to my webform-
We verified the information on file and can confirm that:

  • The responsible office is currently verifying if your application meets the eligibility requirementsunder the immigration program for which you have applied,
    • you may be contacted via your account if additional information is needed.
  • The security background verification has not been initiated.
  • The criminal background verification is currently valid.
Since it says that eligibility requirements are still being verified does it mean that it's in officer end or agent end? also does it mean that criminality is complete? @legalfalcon My AOR is October 02
 

Kerikeri

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Nov 29, 2020
380
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Got the following reply to my webform-
We verified the information on file and can confirm that:

  • The responsible office is currently verifying if your application meets the eligibility requirementsunder the immigration program for which you have applied,
    • you may be contacted via your account if additional information is needed.
  • The security background verification has not been initiated.
  • The criminal background verification is currently valid.
Since it says that eligibility requirements are still being verified does it mean that it's in officer end or agent end? also does it mean that criminality is complete? @legalfalcon My AOR is October 02
When did you request this via webform?
 
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rajsandhu1989

Full Member
Oct 19, 2020
39
42
India
Category........
FSW
NOC Code......
4011
AOR Received.
18-10-2020
Med's Done....
24-11-2020
well
I have 2 work experiences in 4011 (2 years 7 months; primary occupation)
and 4012 (3 years 6 months; earned with my PhD in process NOT from Canada)
i wanted to ask does at any point in work experience does CIC asked that was it done with full time education in the same duration?

Secondly wanted to ask
what does documents set for review: Client information means
Hi
I am also NOC-4011 candidate, I have not counted by experience when I was doing my PhD. I am not sure about the exact rule but one of my friends in the immigration business recommended me not to count that. However, after submitting my thesis, I started working as an Assistant Professor which I clearly explained in my LOE its overlap with my Ph.D. tenure. I counted that toward my work experience.
As per my GCMS notes, my eligibility is passed and there was no issue related to this.
 
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dreamercec

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Jan 30, 2021
336
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well
I have 2 work experiences in 4011 (2 years 7 months; primary occupation)
and 4012 (3 years 6 months; earned with my PhD in process NOT from Canada)
i wanted to ask does at any point in work experience does CIC asked that was it done with full time education in the same duration?

Secondly wanted to ask
what does documents set for review: Client information means

Canadian work experience gained while you were a full-time student doesn’t count towards the score used to rank your profile.

The work experience gained as a full-time student outside Canada counts towards the score used to rank your profile.


https://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=394&top=29
 
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Drzee

Star Member
Dec 15, 2020
76
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Hi Drzee!

I'm also a PhD from outside Canada, and during my preparations for the express entry process I surfed a lot of resources and concluded the following:
1) One of many requirements of education assessment organizations (WES in particular) is that any education (including a doctorate) has to be full-time.
2) No working experience can be counted if it took place during studies, because:
a) during full-time studentship a student can have only a part-time job;
b) only a full-time job with a minimum of 35 h/w can be counted as appropriate working experience for which this student can earn additional points.

As I understand it right, CIC checks the time periods of all your studies and working positions, and if they notice some intersections which violate the 2 aforementioned points, they flags your application with the "Review Required" label because they don't know what to think: it's an occasional mistake, a possible mispresentation based on misunderstanding of the assessment criterias, or even a fraud stemming from the desire to get more CRS points.

I think you have interpretted it wrongly.
4012 noc is for research/ graduate assistant and its requirement is that one should be a graduate student in the university.
I counted the experience for 30 hrs/wk as i had classes for 9 hrs and was genuinely working 30 to 32 hrs a week on variojs research projects
 

cmingles

Star Member
May 2, 2019
56
42
Hello guys,
Just received the portal confirmation email from IRCC. Both I and my wife (dependent) received the email.
AOR - Oct 18, 2020
All stages passed - June 7, 2021

Do we both need to reply or only primary applicant (I) can reply with all the info?

@legalfalcon: Could you please guide? TIA.
We have the same AOR and I'm with dependent too. But still havent received anything :( But happy for you!
 

dhruvbajaj39

Hero Member
Feb 19, 2021
241
131
Canada administered over 500k doses today, including 300k second doses. If the border opening is indeed linked to the vaccine rollout we have much to look forward to.
 

rajsandhu1989

Full Member
Oct 19, 2020
39
42
India
Category........
FSW
NOC Code......
4011
AOR Received.
18-10-2020
Med's Done....
24-11-2020
Canada administered over 500k doses today, including 300k second doses. If the border opening is indeed linked to the vaccine rollout we have much to look forward to.
That's great news and some youtube immigration channels are also claiming that IRCC has started processing hold-out applications.
 

jeffrey Yip

Star Member
Jun 20, 2018
75
11
Hi everyone,

I called the IRCC 2 months ago and the agent told me that the eligibility is passed. A few weeks ago I also received a webform response that mentions

"The eligibility verification is currently valid "

but I noticed that criminality and security background verification has not been initiated.

does that mean my eligibility has not yet been conclusively passed by an officer?

Thank you so much for your time and your valuable opinions.
 

Positive always

Full Member
Sep 15, 2020
29
22
Air Canada cancelled flights till 31 July 2021. Will this have any negative indirect impact on our files? Is it ok to hope that by 21 st June vaccinated travellers will be able to travel and our file will start processing again