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jithucan123

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Hello Guys,

So this is my story. I have worked in India as a Presentation Specialist for the Presentation Jobs for an NY based Investment Banking Client from 2008 to 2013 (They have Outsourced Presentation jobs to India).

I became Canadian PR and entered Canada in 2014 March. I have applied for the Citizenship and my Ecase status is "Decision Made". I am expecting my Oath Ceremony by May last week.

Though I have worked from 2014 in Canada in various industries and various companies, I was not able to enjoy what I am doing. In short the work which I have done as a Presentation Specialist addicted me and I will not satisfied even I got a job as a Cabinet Minister ;). So my plans are like this:

Once I get my Canadian Citizenship, I am planning to move NY as a visitor and applied for the job (They have lots of openings) as a Presentation Specialist. Once I got the job offer and valid work Permit (TN Visa, again I am not sure the job Presentation Specialist jobs will come under the Graphic Designer category in NAFTA professional lists), I am planning to move any of the Canada-US border city and commute to home in Canada on weekends. I want to stay in Canada

I know this seems to be a crazy stupid idea. Even my wife laughed a lot with this plan. Any way I will go for it.

Do you guys have any idea or any suggestions or any tips to make my plan easy?

Thanks a lot
 

DEEPCUR

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Don't keep too much hopes on long term prospects with TN visa. If you could eventually get to move to H1b with your future employer then all is good, and you can keep working in US till whenever you wish. You may need to check if companies in your industry would be willing to sponsor H1b for your occupation.

It might be difficult to work long on TN visa because the visa is non-immigrant intent and given at a discretion of border officer. Being born in India, you won't be able to get green card for a minimum of 2 decades. So it is unlikely that they let you extend your TN visa that long.

Native Canadians would not have such problems because they don't have any wait time for green cards , and would be able to close things out within one or two terms of their TN visa.

Once you get used to US market, you may not like to go back to Canadian market, and won't have any prospects to work in US as well.
 
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You can't "move to the US as a visitor" and then commute home to Canada on the weekends. All you are allowed to do is visit as a tourist - not live there. You need to make sure you look and behave like a tourist when entering the US. It's absolutely feasible to be refused entry into the US as a Canadian citizen if it looks like you're attempting to move there without authorization. So I would say that part of your plan isn't realistic or doable.
 

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Being born in India, you won't be able to get green card for a minimum of 2 decades. So it is unlikely that they let you extend your TN visa that long.
Why does it matter where he was born? He will be a Canadian citizen by this time.
 

DEEPCUR

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Why does it matter where he was born? He will be a Canadian citizen by this time.
Well, that is how green card system in US works, and that is the reason (in fact only reason) Indians want to move to Canada at all. US Green Card system has country caps which says no more than 7% employment based green cards can be given to a particular country. They determine the nationality for green cards based on country of birth, and not citizenship.

After one applies for green card (assume something like AOR), they let people extend their work visas (H1b) indefinitely until one gets their turn to get their green cards. This has put a lot people, especially from India, in limbo as they need to live in temporary visas for long. Right now the wait is like 10 years to get green card and it is getting worser day by day. So whoever applied in 2008-2009 are getting it now. All those people have been extending their H1b s since a decade.

This would work for someone who is on H1b visa, because it is a dual intent (immigrant / non-immigrant), and not TN visa. So he cannot keep extending his TN visa (which has non-immigrant intent) like others do for H1b if he wishes to live in US for long. After one extension, CBP will start questioning his intent and might deny the visa.
 
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keesio

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They determine the nationality for green cards based on country of birth, and not citizenship.
That... is weird. It should be based on citizenship. According to that logic, my niece, who is South Korean, born to South Korean parents, would be considered Pakistani if she tried to get a green card this way because she was born in Karachi when my cousin was working there.

Same goes for say someone who moved from India to Canada when they were a little kid, they would be considered "Indian" even though they only hold a Canadian citizenship and grew up in Canada.

Makes no sense to base it on birth.
 

DEEPCUR

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That... is weird. It should be based on citizenship. According to that logic, my niece, who is South Korean, born to South Korean parents, would be considered Pakistani if she tried to get a green card this way because she was born in Karachi when my cousin was working there.

Same goes for say someone who moved from India to Canada when they were a little kid, they would be considered "Indian" even though they only hold a Canadian citizenship and grew up in Canada.

Makes no sense to base it on birth.

That is right.. But look at it another way. They didn't want people to abuse the system by getting citizenship of countries that are easier to get, and then eventually getting green cards.. there some countries whose citizenships you could easily buy.

By the same logic that you mentioned, some lucky Indian souls are getting green cards faster too. Like whose Indian parents gave birth to them in Middle East while working there etc. There is no wait for time any other country other India, to some extent China and Philippines at least in employment based category. If a born Canadian applies for green card, they would get in less than a year, just processing time.

There is one more absurdity to it. They have an additional clause called cross chargeability by which one can get in to different country queue (if that's faster) even if the spouse (who adds no merit to an employment based application) was born there.

Although diversity is cited as reason by Congress for this, many opine that the real intent behind this is to keep things easy for Europeans, Canadians and Australians to immigrate easily to US. God knows how true that is. US has absolutely broken system for immigration and not even a single proper bill has passed since 2000 on immigration.
 

keesio

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The US seems to have some absurd rules to try to close loopholes. The biggest is one that has been the bane of all US expats abroad - US taxation based on citizenship instead of residency.