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singh@1234

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You haven't done your research then. You haven't looked at EU (Germany and UK to begin with) especially from a long-term goals perspective. FSW beats every other program or country. However, CEC is less profitable than most EU opportunities in the long run. Compared to Germany, CEC lands you your PR a year earlier but you get hit by the realities of Canadian job market.
When i was working in UK, my salary was 60K pounds. In US it is 225k$, In canada, at my level, i can get 150kCAD. To me US>>>CA>Everything else.
 

ImpatientKangaroo

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When i was working my UK, my salary was 60K pounds. In US it is 225k$, In canada, at my level, i can get 150kCAD. To me US>>>CA>Everything else.
After spending 100k CAD and 2 years for a useless degree, whereas in Germany you could do a joint program with an industrial partner, work as you study for free. School is free, you pay for life expenses which is needless to say far less than 100k CAD. Also your program in Germany is probably shorter than that in Canada -> less money spent for school.

No STEM job market in Canada is larger than EU job markets. Software might be slightly bigger in Canada (which I doubt, people find equivalent careers everywhere in EU) but after spending 100k and wasting 2 years of my life on a useless degree I wouldn't be happy that much.
 

ZAtoCD

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Not just fake Covid Test report bruh but Fake IELTS, Degree, etc. as well. A large portion of those so called students pay a large sum and easily get a doctored IELTS test result as well (through some agents/consultancies).

It is a backend process where some agent from the BC/IDP manually alters the result (depending on the money paid) in accordance to the college/university expectation and the updated score will show up in the TRF later. There is a big racket run by some dudes from the IDP/BC partnering with many consultancies.

Recently, in the year 2020, the Niagara college of Canada busted this and found some students who can hardly say where they are from (in English) but have exceptional IELTS scores. Those 'so-called' students were then asked to re-write and many were supposedly deported with a ban after they were not even able to get a lower grade

My school friend's brother (father is a business magnate in Punjab, India) did the same and is now a PR (got it through the CEC draw when the cut off was around 380). The guy can hardly say about his hometown in English but is a Permanent Resident now.
One day when I got the chance to talk to him, I asked about this behavior and he said that 1000s of students (especially from the northern part of my country) easily get a doctored IELTS by paying a huge sum and flock off to Canada and this is very very normal. I then got fed up and disconnected the call.

I really feel bad that such defaulters bring a very bad reputation to India and to my of us who are immigrating professionally.

https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2018/12/08/400-students-in-india-told-to-retake-language-tests-after-niagara-college-flags-concerns.html
Wow, that is terrible. Thank you for enlightening me about the situation. It's fantastic that the college was about to find out about that, and I'm glad they got deported. I hope work continues to find those who aren't in Canada legally.
 

EscoBlades

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Kind of like Liberals.
By the time outland applicants get their PR, and then convert to citizens and gain the right to vote in Federal and Provincial elections, I can assure you that the combined effects of COVID's disruption to IRCC operations, and IRCC incompetence in certain aspects of processing applications, will be the furthest thing from their minds at that point in time.

All political parties have their faults, some more than others. But people mostly vote based on promises, manifestos, and issues that affect them in the short to medium term, and not based on some long held grudge from when they were trying to gain Permanent Residency to Canada in the first place.
 

singh@1234

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After spending 100k CAD and 2 years for a useless degree, whereas in Germany you could do a joint program with an industrial partner, work as you study for free. School is free, you pay for life expenses which is needless to say far less than 100k CAD. Also your program in Germany is probably shorter than that in Canada -> less money spent for school.

No STEM job market in Canada is larger than EU job markets. Software might be slightly bigger in Canada (which I doubt, people find equivalent careers everywhere in EU) but after spending 100k and wasting 2 years of my life on a useless degree I wouldn't be happy that much.
it is growing, the software market is in the bloom.
After spending 100k CAD and 2 years for a useless degree, whereas in Germany you could do a joint program with an industrial partner, work as you study for free. School is free, you pay for life expenses which is needless to say far less than 100k CAD. Also your program in Germany is probably shorter than that in Canada -> less money spent for school.

No STEM job market in Canada is larger than EU job markets. Software might be slightly bigger in Canada (which I doubt, people find equivalent careers everywhere in EU) but after spending 100k and wasting 2 years of my life on a useless degree I wouldn't be happy that much.
Well, i don't have to leave the US if I can get a Canada PR. I can still take home US salary, and do border crossing every day.
 

FurioGiunta

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It just says

"You do not need a medical exam. We will send you a message if this changes."

Plus, I noticed another ghost update just now. Not sure still if it's just a glitch.
I just got a ghost update too. In my case, the medicals section changed from "Passed" to "You do not need a medical exam. We will send you a message if this changes". I am assuming this an automatic update indicating it has expired, since it's been a year since I did my medicals.
 

ImpatientKangaroo

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it is growing, the software market is in the bloom.

Well, i don't have to leave the US if I can get a Canada PR. I can still take home US salary, and do border crossing every day.
EU market ain't shrinking either. I doubt many people will think they can do border crossing every day so paying 100k to a useless Canadian degree becomes a profitable move all of a sudden. But for your specific case yes it indeed may work. I try to think general though, many people won't go for that.

The situation with the job market is already clear but there are other things I didn't even mention, like how far Canada is. Plane tickets are more expensive, flight is longer and more difficult, families coming and going is more difficult for everyone. Any other immigration program Canada offers than FSW is just less profitable than what other countries offer.

I tried to keep it general like I tried to include asian and indian people too. But for me for example, even US becomes an easier option than buying a PGWP for CEC.
 

singh@1234

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EU market ain't shrinking either. I doubt many people will think they can do border crossing every day so paying 100k to a useless Canadian degree becomes a profitable move all of a sudden. But for your specific case yes it indeed may work. I try to think general though, many people won't go for that.

The situation with the job market is already clear but there are other things I didn't even mention, like how far Canada is. Plane tickets are more expensive, flight is longer and more difficult, families coming and going is more difficult for everyone. Any other immigration program Canada offers other than FSW is just less profitable than what other countries offer.

I tried to keep it general like I tried to include asian and indian people too. But for me for example, even US becomes an easier option than buying a PGWP for CEC.
US is not easy at all, H1b is lottery-based. Many don't get selected even after their 3 attempts(1 opt, 2 stem opt) that they get after degree.
 

ImpatientKangaroo

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US is not easy at all, H1b is a lottery based. Many don't get selected.
Yeah the lottery hits many people bad, which is why US becomes a more difficult option for indian and asian people. It was a specific example for people from other countries though; like for me US is a more profitable option than PGWP->CEC. But yeah this can't be a general statement, it applies only to a few people. Canada may/should care about this though. Like if all the non-asian and non-indian people in the EE pool turn to EU and US all of a sudden (along with many other asian and indian people of course), isn't that a failure?

They're gambling with the system and I think they'd regret it.
 

singh@1234

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Yeah the lottery hits many people bad, which is why US becomes a more difficult option for indian and asian people. It was a specific example for people from other countries though; like for me US is a more profitable option than PGWP->CEC. But yeah this can't be a general statement, it applies only to a few people. Canada may/should care about this though. Like if all the non-asian and non-indian people in the EE pool turn to EU and US all of a sudden (along with many other asian and indian people of course), isn't that a failure?

They're gambling with the system and I think they'd regret it.
the lottery doesn't have any country quota, it will be difficult for you as well.
 

shank15

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By the time outland applicants get their PR, and then convert to citizens and gain the right to vote in Federal and Provincial elections, I can assure you that the combined effects of COVID's disruption to IRCC operations, and IRCC incompetence in certain aspects of processing applications, will be the furthest thing from their minds at that point in time.

All political parties have their faults, some more than others. But people mostly vote based on promises, manifestos, and issues that affect them in the short to medium term, and not based on some long held grudge from when they were trying to gain Permanent Residency to Canada in the first place.
Well said.

If I ever do get PPR... I'll definitely look at Liberals in a negative light even if I'm casting my vote in their favor.
 
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