+1(514) 937-9445 or Toll-free (Canada & US) +1 (888) 947-9445

FSW WORLDWIDE

tapperb

VIP Member
Jan 10, 2020
3,091
1,384
If FSW draws happen, I will obviously get an invite. The point is that immigration to Canada is very much getting more difficult for outsiders. And direct PR is probably one of the main reasons anyone even chooses Canada. The scores were already on the rise in 2019, and will not drop to 2019 levels. Again, shit happens, I don't care. They skipped a draw, scores shot up. Shit happens.

But the problem I have is them breaking their own system and pretending like nothing changed. This isn't about shit happening. This is about bad decision making and shitty politics artificially raising the bar for people just because they aren't already located in Canada or are already from first world countries (IEC). Immigration is 100% getting more difficult. You're already in Canada so it's understandable you don't see how the immigration landscape is already inaccessible to a large number of people when it was a piece of cake for the same people in 2018.
The rules are constantly changing. That's why I don't want to spend 1500 on OINP. Next week, they might open up a stream for inland applicants. It's so unpredictable.
 
  • Like
Reactions: dankboi

mushymush

Hero Member
Oct 19, 2020
823
1,053
The rules are constantly changing. That's why I don't want to spend 1500 on OINP. Next week, they might open up a stream for inland applicants. It's so unpredictable.
Wow that's a horrible decision. You're choosing to gamble on your entire future for $1500? You do you, but if I got an OINP invite today, I'd take it instantly even if there was a forever hopeful sunshine rainbow expectation of an all program draw tomorrow.

Edit: Wait you said inland. Yeah idk then. You can afford to skip an OINP invite I guess. Still not worth it imo. $1500 is nothing in the long run.
 

GandiBaat

Champion Member
Dec 23, 2014
2,100
1,332
NOC Code......
2173
App. Filed.......
26th September 2021
Doc's Request.
Old Medical
Nomination.....
None
AOR Received.
26th September 2021
IELTS Request
Sent with application
File Transfer...
InshaAllah
Med's Request
InshaAllah
Med's Done....
Old Medical
Passport Req..
InshaAllah
VISA ISSUED...
InshaAllah
LANDED..........
InshaAllah
If FSW draws happen, I will obviously get an invite. The point is that immigration to Canada is in fact getting more difficult for outsiders, whether you choose to see it or not
For outside folks, immigration has always been harder than in-land folks. There are more points for in-land experience, for in-land studies, for in-land job offers. That has always been the case.
 

tapperb

VIP Member
Jan 10, 2020
3,091
1,384
Wow that's a horrible decision. You're choosing to gamble on your entire future for $1500? You do you, but if I got an OINP invite today, I'd take it instantly even if there was a forever hopeful sunshine rainbow expectation of an all program draw tomorrow.

Edit: Wait you said inland. Yeah idk then. You can afford to skip an OINP invite. Still not worth it imo. $1500 is nothing in the long run.
Well, I'm conflicted about whether or not to apply for OINP right now tbh. If I applied I'd probably get it but it's $1500 plus 18months or so of waiting. I've literally paid so much money along the way, this just feels like another unneeded expense. I could apply for OINP now or wait till I get enough experience for CEC but looks like CEC is unclear atm
 

mushymush

Hero Member
Oct 19, 2020
823
1,053
For outside folks, immigration has always been harder than in-land folks. There are more points for in-land experience, for in-land studies, for in-land job offers.
THEN WHAT THE FUCK ARE WE ARGUING ABOUT?
We're literally saying the same fucking thing. It has always been harder for outsiders, and it is getting harder (while inland is getting easier). It was getting harder before the pandemic as well, and the pandemic just accelerated the pace of it.
 

seadrag0n

Champion Member
Mar 6, 2018
2,361
2,053
Well, I'm conflicted about whether or not to apply for OINP right now tbh. If I applied I'd probably get it but it's $1500 plus 18months or so of waiting. I've literally paid so much money along the way, this just feels like another unneeded expense. I could apply for OINP now or wait till I get enough experience for CEC but looks like CEC is unclear atm
You are talking about paper-based OINP PR application? Won't you get a support letter from Ontario for a work permit till you get your PR?
 

mushymush

Hero Member
Oct 19, 2020
823
1,053
but looks like CEC is unclear atm
This should be all the reason you need to apply. You still get to live in Canada while the OINP is being processed, and you'll have a long wait regardless.

Your options are:
1. Wait, hope for a CEC draw. If your scores are 470+, all program draw will be fine too, but you'll have to wait a few months anyway. Result: You save 1500$
2. Take the OINP, get the application started, continue with life.

I don't know your scores etc, but if draws resume and you don't make the cut, knowing you skipped an OINP invite, those will be the most worthless $1500 you'd have ever saved.
 

tapperb

VIP Member
Jan 10, 2020
3,091
1,384
You are talking about paper-based OINP PR application? Won't you get a support letter from Ontario for a work permit till you get your PR?
I'm not worried about the work permit., I already have a 3-year permit. Tbh, I'm considering getting the passport as fast as possible and heading to the US so a paper-based application would be inconvenient. I wish I could stay in Canada but the high taxes and unbelievable house prices, it doesn't make sense. i think some people like Kangaroo and Kloppity have already said it. As a young 20s graduate holder, it's not worth staying in Canada, we pay tax for families to get free (or cheap childcare), meanwhile, we get taxed like sht with no hope of affording a home.
 
  • Like
Reactions: kloppity

seadrag0n

Champion Member
Mar 6, 2018
2,361
2,053
I'm not worried about the work permit., I already have a 3-year permit. Tbh, I'm considering getting the passport as fast as possible and heading to the US so a paper-based application would be inconvenient. I wish I could stay in Canada but the high taxes and unbelievable house prices, it doesn't make sense.
I argued about moving to the US after getting citizenship but someone here mentioned that they had to visit a hospital urgently in the US, got a hefty bill and a sizeable chunk of savings just went poof. Healthcare is supposed to be a big advantage of Canada over the US.
 
  • Like
Reactions: OneStepAtATime

mushymush

Hero Member
Oct 19, 2020
823
1,053
I argued about moving to the US after getting citizenship but someone here mentioned that they had to visit a hospital urgently in the US, got a hefty bill and a sizeable chunk of savings just went poof. Healthcare is supposed to be a big advantage of Canada over the US.
Yeah, I was comparing taxation between my state in the US and Ontario, and until about $150k in the respective currencies, the taxation is actually higher in the US. Plus healthcare premiums and deductibles eat up a big chunk of your salary advantage already. Ver dependent on the field you're in, but for what I plan to get into, Canada is a distinct winner. Life isn't all about money making. The US is.
 

tapperb

VIP Member
Jan 10, 2020
3,091
1,384
I argued about moving to the US after getting citizenship but someone here mentioned that they had to visit a hospital urgently in the US, got a hefty bill and a sizeable chunk of savings just went poof. Healthcare is supposed to be a big advantage of Canada over the US.
That makes sense... if you're 35-50, have a family, etc. etc. I'm 25, relatively healthy without the need for any healthcare. It doesn't really benefit me to stay in Canada economically. Again, if it was WORTH IT for me to stay I would, I like the vibe, the people but it's not economically worth it when I wouldn't be saving much compared to my friends abroad.
 
  • Like
Reactions: seadrag0n

tapperb

VIP Member
Jan 10, 2020
3,091
1,384
That makes sense... if you're 35-50, have a family, etc. etc. I'm 25, relatively healthy without the need for any healthcare. It doesn't really benefit me to stay in Canada economically. Again, if it was WORTH IT for me to stay I would, I like the vibe, the people but it's not economically worth it when I wouldn't be saving much compared to my friends abroad.
You could buy a house in Texas for the price of a garage in Ontario, it's actually stupid given how big Canada is
 
  • Like
Reactions: Lc4life

dankboi

Champion Member
Apr 19, 2021
2,982
8,690
London, United Kingdom
Category........
FSW
Well, I'm conflicted about whether or not to apply for OINP right now tbh. If I applied I'd probably get it but it's $1500 plus 18months or so of waiting. I've literally paid so much money along the way, this just feels like another unneeded expense. I could apply for OINP now or wait till I get enough experience for CEC but looks like CEC is unclear atm
isn't your fsw app in processing mate ? why you talk about oinp now ?