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Expired pr card and returning to canada

Wolfpmd3

Champion Member
Apr 26, 2015
1,827
424
Canada
Category........
CEC
Visa Office......
Montreal
NOC Code......
1254
App. Filed.......
02-05-2019
Doc's Request.
18-06-2019 (RCMP)
AOR Received.
02-05-2019
File Transfer...
02-05-2019
Med's Done....
22-03-2019
LANDED..........
26-02-2020
Actually I am a Bangladeshi national requiring visa to go to saint pierre and miquelon, France and my plan is to reenter Canada by private boat or other vehicle to go Fortune of Newfoundland, admitting that I might be reported but whether or not I would be reported, I would like to test my luck. The reason why I am taking this route is my B2 visa refusal of America.
Once again, anyone have experience like this, pls share with me.
Even if you make it to Canada illegaly, you will never be able to renew your PR card, nor receive any benefits such as provincial health care, a social insurance number or anything.

You shouldn't think of yourself as a Canadian PR anymore, because even though you technically still are until you voluntarily renounce, you can't renew your documents and you don't qualify anymore for not having met your obligations.

You'll have to start over a a foreign immigrant! From 0
 

Buletruck

VIP Member
May 18, 2015
6,215
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You can't, even if you are still a PR of Canada (you don't automatically lose your PR status) you will 100% not be allowed in with an expired PR card. You'd need a PR travel document which you are not eligible to get.

So you will not be allowed to enter to Canada ever again.

Your options:
  1. Apply to have your case reviewed and wait for a decision. But of course unless you can justify it, it's almost certain there is no way this will work and most likely take a very long time, even years.
  2. Voluntarily renounce your PR status and reapply for PR through Express Entry or any other way.
Sorry, but that's the harsh reality.
You shouldn't consider yourself a PR anymore, actually since 5 years ago.
Fundamentally wrong on so many levels.
 

Buletruck

VIP Member
May 18, 2015
6,215
2,258
Even if you make it to Canada illegaly, you will never be able to renew your PR card, nor receive any benefits such as provincial health care, a social insurance number or anything.

You shouldn't think of yourself as a Canadian PR anymore, because even though you technically still are until you voluntarily renounce, you can't renew your documents and you don't qualify anymore for not having met your obligations.

You'll have to start over a a foreign immigrant! From 0
Where do you get your information from......Briebart?
 
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zardoz

VIP Member
Feb 2, 2013
13,323
2,158
Canada
Category........
FAM
Visa Office......
London
App. Filed.......
16-02-2013
VISA ISSUED...
31-07-2013
LANDED..........
09-11-2013
You can't, even if you are still a PR of Canada (you don't automatically lose your PR status) you will 100% not be allowed in with an expired PR card. You'd need a PR travel document which you are not eligible to get.

So you will not be allowed to enter to Canada ever again.

Your options:
  1. Apply to have your case reviewed and wait for a decision. But of course unless you can justify it, it's almost certain there is no way this will work and most likely take a very long time, even years.
  2. Voluntarily renounce your PR status and reapply for PR through Express Entry or any other way.
Sorry, but that's the harsh reality.
You shouldn't consider yourself a PR anymore, actually since 5 years ago.
Even if you make it to Canada illegaly, you will never be able to renew your PR card, nor receive any benefits such as provincial health care, a social insurance number or anything.

You shouldn't think of yourself as a Canadian PR anymore, because even though you technically still are until you voluntarily renounce, you can't renew your documents and you don't qualify anymore for not having met your obligations.

You'll have to start over a a foreign immigrant! From 0
https://www.canada.ca/content/dam/ircc/migration/ircc/english/resources/manuals/enf/enf04-eng.pdf

Section 11. Examining permanent residents at ports of entry.

This gives the correct information, unlike that provided by you.

11 Examining permanent residents at ports of entry

Subsection A2(1) defines a permanent resident as a person who
 has acquired permanent resident status; and
 has not subsequently lost that status under section A46.

11.1 Rights of permanent residents

Subsection A27(1) provides that a permanent resident has the right to enter and remain in
Canada subject to the provisions of the Act.

Subsection A19(2) requires an officer to allow a permanent resident to enter Canada if
satisfied following an examination on their entry that they have that status.
Permanent residents who are under enforcement proceedings keep their permanent resident
status and retain the right to enter Canada until a final determination of their loss of status
has been made.
 

Kabir81

Member
Mar 12, 2019
13
1
Mr. wolfpmd3,
Who said you that I would not be allowed to enter in CANADA?
Possibly you do not know the Canadain PR right and other rules and regulations. You should study more and more. PR ship is not revoked otherwise reported and taken a action by the government authority like CBSA and IRCC etc. I advise you not to reply anybody like me if not well informed.
 
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serenus

Member
Feb 25, 2020
13
1
Mr. wolfpmd3,
Who said you that I would not be allowed to enter in CANADA?
Possibly you do not know the Canadain PR right and other rules and regulations. You should study more and more. PR ship is not revoked otherwise reported and taken a action by the government authority like CBSA and IRCC etc. I advise you not to reply anybody like me if not well informed.
Have U entered ?? Curious to know your case.
 
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Kabir81

Member
Mar 12, 2019
13
1
Actually now i am thinking of applying anew from zero voluntarilly repealing the status. Would it be ok if i apply for both together? That is revoking and reapplying simultaneously.
 

scylla

VIP Member
Jun 8, 2010
75,122
12,634
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
Actually now i am thinking of applying anew from zero voluntarilly repealing the status. Would it be ok if i apply for both together? That is revoking and reapplying simultaneously.
You should apply to revoke a few months before applying for PR again.
 

Kabir81

Member
Mar 12, 2019
13
1
But the rules say that if you are still PR, you can do applications to revoke the status and reapplication for PR again. It expains in this way that first the officer will process revocation application after that proceed the PR application. I am going to reapply for SINP in occupation in demand category to avail PR ship again. Would they investigate my past case application data records.