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Is my job offer valid? to get additional 50 points for EE?

hsp_canada

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I am on a work permit (ICT) in Canada since 2 years with same employer, and I hold a valid work permit till October 2020. Due to age factor, the only way to claim additional points for EE draw is to add a Job offer letter.
Here is the case, I am holding one offer letter from my (same) employer but it was written to Canada Immigration at the time of my work permit extension was filed during December 2018; the offer letter stating that my job assignment will be for next 24 months commencing December 2018.
My question is:
can I claim 50 points for arranged employment using this job offer letter? Considering my work permit expires on October 2020 next year?

Please help.
 
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I am on a work permit (ICT) in Canada since 2 years with same employer, and I hold a valid work permit till October 2020. Due to age factor, the only way to claim additional points for EE draw is to add a Job offer letter.
Here is the case,
I am holding one offer letter from my (same) employer but it was written to Canada Immigration at the time of my work permit extension was filed during December 2018; the offer letter stating that my job assignment will be for next 24 months commencing December 2018.
My question is:
can I claim 50 points for arranged employment using this job offer letter? Considering my work permit expires on October 2020 next year?

Please help.
Probably not. It needs to be an offer of employment for at least one year AFTER PR status is granted.
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/immigrate-canada/express-entry/documents/offer-employment.html
 
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harryguns

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@zardoz
Hi there, please help me answer the below
In Aug 2019 I applied for PR and availed the valid job offer 50 points. My current work permit is valid till Apr 2020 so during eAPR, I submitted the offer of employment which was Initially provided by my employer.
Recently, my employer filed a WP extension and provider a updated offer of employment with the assignment extension for additional 24 months. Now, PR and WP extension both are processing in parallel.
Do you think this will cause any issue in my PR application?
 

zardoz

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@zardoz
Hi there, please help me answer the below
In Aug 2019 I applied for PR and availed the valid job offer 50 points. My current work permit is valid till Apr 2020 so during eAPR, I submitted the offer of employment which was Initially provided by my employer.
Recently, my employer filed a WP extension and provider a updated offer of employment with the assignment extension for additional 24 months. Now, PR and WP extension both are processing in parallel.
Do you think this will cause any issue in my PR application?
These are separate and unrelated activities. If you have already got a valid PR application in progress, the application for a work permit should have no impact on it.
 

harryguns

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These are separate and unrelated activities. If you have already got a valid PR application in progress, the application for a work permit should have no impact on it.
@zardoz Thank you so much for your reply.
In addition to this, the offer of employment shared by my employer states the assignment extension for 24 months. No where it is mentioned that he will be employer for 1 year after PR is issued. Will the 50 points claimed for arranged employment cause any issue? Please advise
 

zardoz

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@zardoz Thank you so much for your reply.
In addition to this, the offer of employment shared by my employer states the assignment extension for 24 months. No where it is mentioned that he will be employer for 1 year after PR is issued. Will the 50 points claimed for arranged employment cause any issue? Please advise
If you didn't meet the strict criteria for claiming the 50 points on the day that you submitted the PR application, it will be assessed on that basis, not what happened after submission. If you did meet the required criteria, then the 50 points should be safe regardless if something changes later, including applying for a work permit extension.
 

harryguns

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If you didn't meet the strict criteria for claiming the 50 points on the day that you submitted the PR application, it will be assessed on that basis, not what happened after submission. If you did meet the required criteria, then the 50 points should be safe regardless if something changes later, including applying for a work permit extension.
@zardoz okay. I did raise a webform recently and explained them regarding my situation and the assignment extension by sending them the new offer of employment. Should that suffice ?
 

SelfishMouse

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@zardoz okay. I did raise a webform recently and explained them regarding my situation and the assignment extension by sending them the new offer of employment. Should that suffice ?
In Aug 2019 I applied for PR and availed the valid job offer 50 points. My current work permit is valid till Apr 2020 so during eAPR, I submitted the offer of employment which was Initially provided by my employer.

Recently, my employer filed a WP extension and provider a updated offer of employment with the assignment extension for additional 24 months.
 

Mahsapr

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I am very confused about my eligibility to get extra 50 points for job offer for CEC for express entry.

I have one year of work experience in Canada and my work permit is open PGWP which is LMIA-exempt under ‘Canadian Interest” . My employer does not have an LMIA. Do you think that I can get extra 50 point from job offer without LMIA since I have one year of experience and I am applying under Canadian experience class?
 

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I am very confused about my eligibility to get extra 50 points for job offer for CEC for express entry.

I have one year of work experience in Canada and my work permit is open PGWP which is LMIA-exempt under ‘Canadian Interest” . My employer does not have an LMIA. Do you think that I can get extra 50 point from job offer without LMIA since I have one year of experience and I am applying under Canadian experience class?
PGWP does not fall under Canadian Interests. You are not LMIA-exempt and require an LMIA to claim the 50 points.
 

Mahsapr

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PGWP does not fall under Canadian Interests. You are not LMIA-exempt and require an LMIA to claim the 50 points.
Hi,
Thanks for your help. I have contacted CIC today and they told me open PGWP is LMIA exempt under Canadian interest. Here is the link and the exemption code is C(43)
I am still very confused.

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/publications-manuals/operational-bulletins-manuals/temporary-residents/foreign-workers/exemption-codes.html#r205

my CRS score is 453, do you think I have any chance for ITA?
 

canuck_in_uk

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Hi,
Thanks for your help. I have contacted CIC today and they told me open PGWP is LMIA exempt under Canadian interest. Here is the link and the exemption code is C(43)
I am still very confused.

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/publications-manuals/operational-bulletins-manuals/temporary-residents/foreign-workers/exemption-codes.html#r205

my CRS score is 453, do you think I have any chance for ITA?
It doesn't. You need an LMIA. There is no grey area on that for PGWP holders.

No chance right now and unlikely anytime soon that the score is coming down to 453.
 
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jes_ON

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I am on a work permit (ICT) in Canada since 2 years with same employer, and I hold a valid work permit till October 2020. Due to age factor, the only way to claim additional points for EE draw is to add a Job offer letter.
Here is the case,
I am holding one offer letter from my (same) employer but it was written to Canada Immigration at the time of my work permit extension was filed during December 2018; the offer letter stating that my job assignment will be for next 24 months commencing December 2018.
My question is:
can I claim 50 points for arranged employment using this job offer letter? Considering my work permit expires on October 2020 next year?
No. But all you would need to claim the 50 points would be a new job offer letter from your employer, offering you a permanent position or for at least one year after you become a permanent resident.
 

jes_ON

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Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
06-May-2010
AOR Received.
13-Aug-2010
File Transfer...
01-Mar-2011
Passport Req..
30-Jun-2011
VISA ISSUED...
12-Jul-2011 (received 25-Jul-2011)
LANDED..........
03-Sep-2011
Hi,
Thanks for your help. I have contacted CIC today and they told me open PGWP is LMIA exempt under Canadian interest. Here is the link and the exemption code is C(43)
I am still very confused.

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/publications-manuals/operational-bulletins-manuals/temporary-residents/foreign-workers/exemption-codes.html#r205
PGWPs are LMIA-exempt. However, for the purpose of having a valid job offer for PR applications, only closed LMIA-exempt work permits are eligible without getting a new LMIA. A closed work permit has a specific employer´s name on it, and you cannot change job without getting a new work permit. PGWPs, on the other hand, are open work permits - there is no employer named on it, and you can change jobs at any time.

So, because you are on an open work permit, your employer would need to get an LMIA to be eligible for a valid job offer.

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/immigrate-canada/express-entry/documents/offer-employment.html

Requirements for LMIA exempt - you do not meet the first condition.

"if you have a valid work permit for a NOC 0, A or B job that is exempt from needing an LMIA, and you:
  • are currently working for an employer specified on the work permit
  • have one year of full-time work experience (or an equal amount of part-time work) for that employer
  • have a valid job offer from that employer for at least one year after we issue your permanent resident visa
 
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Mahsapr

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Hi Jes, thank you for your help.

I contacted the CIC again and they said:

For Federal skill worker cases your employer need LMIA for your job offer even If your work permit is exempt and you have a one year experience and AE( arranged employer) is fir FSW. But if you want to get an ITA under CEC you do not need LMIA with your OPGWP, since it is mentioned any employer on your work permit. Also, he said that this condition one ( name of specific employer) is written in general for closed work permit holders such as NAfTA. and since your work permit is open you already cover condition one and “any employer” is written on your work permit.

So I think that only if you are applying for EE under CEC and you have 1 year experience, you don’t need to meet requirement for arranged employer since the word “ any employer” is mentioned on your work permit.