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letsstart

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Hi dear all members,

my relative who got engaged with USA citizen in January 2019. Her fiance applied engagement visa (K 1) and it is case is in process. but after communication some issues created and withdrew from engagement. but case is still in process. her fiance has not withdraw case.

My questions are as under;

01) if my relative ( live her home country) got proposal from Canada (lives in Canada as citizen) and applied for sponsorship application for my relative then does USA fiance visa will have negative impact on Canada sponsorship application?

02) if her USA fiance visa got rejected and Canadian spouse applied for sponsorship visa . will USA fiance rejected visa have negative impact on Canada sponsorship application??

03) if her USA fiance withdraw his case , will that thing have impact on Canada sponsorship application.

please response ... she is in very stress. in this scenario what should she do?

help guys..

thanks in advance.
 

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Hi dear all members,

my relative who got engaged with USA citizen in January 2019. Her fiance applied engagement visa (K 1) and it is case is in process. but after communication some issues created and withdrew from engagement. but case is still in process. her fiance has not withdraw case.

My questions are as under;

01) if my relative ( live her home country) got proposal from Canada (lives in Canada as citizen) and applied for sponsorship application for my relative then does USA fiance visa will have negative impact on Canada sponsorship application?

02) if her USA fiance visa got rejected and Canadian spouse applied for sponsorship visa . will USA fiance rejected visa have negative impact on Canada sponsorship application??

03) if her USA fiance withdraw his case , will that thing have impact on Canada sponsorship application.

please response ... she is in very stress. in this scenario what should she do?

help guys..

thanks in advance.
Just my opinion - but there is no good scenario. If she was just engaged to an American in January and is now turning around and wanting to get married to a Canadian, this looks like a marriage of convenience. If the relationship with the American has not worked out, they should withdraw the K1 application and then your relative should wait at least a year before getting married to the Canadian and trying to come here.
 

letsstart

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Just my opinion - but there is no good scenario. If she was just engaged to an American in January and is now turning around and wanting to get married to a Canadian, this looks like a marriage of convenience. If the relationship with the American has not worked out, they should withdraw the K1 application and then your relative should wait at least a year before getting married to the Canadian and trying to come here.
if she gets K1 and dont go USA for marriage then will it impact? and if USA sponser withdrew application , then it will not impact on canada sponsership after one year wait?

yes she can apply for canada visit visa ...because her brother is there..
 

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if she gets K1 and dont go USA for marriage then will it impact? and if USA sponser withdrew application , then it will not impact on canada sponsership after one year wait?

yes she can apply for canada visit visa ...because her brother is there..
None of us can tell you if the Canadian sponsorship will or won't be impacted. She will need to demonstrate the relationship with the Canadian is genuine.

Just because she has a brother in Canada does not guarantee a TRV (visitor visa) will be approved. This can sometimes make it harder to get a visa.
 

letsstart

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None of us can tell you if the Canadian sponsorship will or won't be impacted. She will need to demonstrate the relationship with the Canadian is genuine.

Just because she has a brother in Canada does not guarantee a TRV (visitor visa) will be approved. This can sometimes make it harder to get a visa.
thanks for reply
 

letsstart

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hello is there any one who have information about above scenario.???

please reply and help people. please do not be salient if you have information /experience regarding above scenario??
Thanks
 

jddd

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hello is there any one who have information about above scenario.???

please reply and help people. please do not be salient if you have information /experience regarding above scenario??
Thanks
scylla is one of the most respected forum members who takes personal time to help here. If no one else has responded, it may mean no other person has answers. If you need an answer badly, try hiring a lawyer.

in my opinion, scylla is correct. The first thing that came to my mind is that this is a case of marriage of convenience. But that’s just normal person me and not a visa officer. No one can tell you for certain if it will impact. The only thing we can say for sure is that Canada will know about the K1 application because the countries share those data.
 
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letsstart

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scylla is one of the most respected forum members who takes personal time to help here. If no one else has responded, it may mean no other person has answers. If you need an answer badly, try hiring a lawyer.

in my opinion, scylla is correct. The first thing that came to my mind is that this is a case of marriage of convenience. But that’s just normal person me and not a visa officer. No one can tell you for certain if it will impact. The only thing we can say for sure is that Canada will know about the K1 application because the countries share those data.
i think ,u got wrong... i am not getting anyone disrespected...there are lot of members here in this group. so may be someone has also personal experience ,or someone knows who had also crossed from same situation.every person have something to share wethere information got from friends,siblings,friends's friends circle,office colleague ,neighbor ..

I just need information even if that come from anybody ..

as for as concerned about this sentence "If no one else has responded, it may mean no other person has answers. " my answer is that " not necessary that if no body responded my question ,it means no other person has answer.. i can think that may people are busy in their stuff. may be they have no time.this is rush life.

i know that Canada will know about K1 application. but my question was not that..mine was it will impact or not ? moreover sometimes it happens in life , that relationships break.. it doesn't mean that if you get engaged ,definitely you will get married with same person.

anyways,
thanks for your opinion.
 

jddd

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i think ,u got wrong... i am not getting anyone disrespected...there are lot of members here in this group. so may be someone has also personal experience ,or someone knows who had also crossed from same situation.every person have something to share wethere information got from friends,siblings,friends's friends circle,office colleague ,neighbor ..

I just need information even if that come from anybody ..

as for as concerned about this sentence "If no one else has responded, it may mean no other person has answers. " my answer is that " not necessary that if no body responded my question ,it means no other person has answer.. i can think that may people are busy in their stuff. may be they have no time.this is rush life.

i know that Canada will know about K1 application. but my question was not that..mine was it will impact or not ? moreover sometimes it happens in life , that relationships break.. it doesn't mean that if you get engaged ,definitely you will get married with same person.

anyways,
thanks for your opinion.
No, you got it wrong. I never said you disrespected scylla. I said that scylla is well respected which means when she answers, you can pretty much guarantee the reliability of it.

To reiterate, i said it MAY mean no one knows the answer. MAY meaning a possibility, that I am unsure, that is not a fact.

Again, if you already know that Canada will know about the K1 application then that is your answer. YES it will affect because this person was just engaged to someone from the US and now wants to marry someone in Canada. So the fact that Canada will know about the K1 application means Canada will then be prompted to look further into the relationship.

I hope that clarifies.
 

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i think ,u got wrong... i am not getting anyone disrespected...there are lot of members here in this group. so may be someone has also personal experience ,or someone knows who had also crossed from same situation.every person have something to share wethere information got from friends,siblings,friends's friends circle,office colleague ,neighbor ..

I just need information even if that come from anybody ..

as for as concerned about this sentence "If no one else has responded, it may mean no other person has answers. " my answer is that " not necessary that if no body responded my question ,it means no other person has answer.. i can think that may people are busy in their stuff. may be they have no time.this is rush life.

i know that Canada will know about K1 application. but my question was not that..mine was it will impact or not ? moreover sometimes it happens in life , that relationships break.. it doesn't mean that if you get engaged ,definitely you will get married with same person.

anyways,
thanks for your opinion.
Well, although I cannot comment on your scenarios, I know for sure that if the K1 was approved after their relationship was broken down, and US immigration finds it out (you bet they will find), its a misrepresentation, and it's a life time ban for any future US visas, the record will keep for 99 years. Even later you are married to a US Citizen, the chance to be granted a VISA will be next to impossible.

And if your relative is extremely lucky that the US immigration hasn't found the misrepresentation, one thing is any successful US VISA applications will be kept for 25 years, which means your relative's bio data will be recorded and kept for 25 years in the system, which it will be shared with Canadian Immigration. I bet the Canadian Immigration will put a big question mark on her application.

Her only correct move is to withdraw the K1 VISA, wait for a year or longer to establish a creditable relationship with whoever she will married to, then apply.
 

letsstart

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Well, although I cannot comment on your scenarios, I know for sure that if the K1 was approved after their relationship was broken down, and US immigration finds it out (you bet they will find), its a misrepresentation, and it's a life time ban for any future US visas, the record will keep for 99 years. Even later you are married to a US Citizen, the chance to be granted a VISA will be next to impossible.

And if your relative is extremely lucky that the US immigration hasn't found the misrepresentation, one thing is any successful US VISA applications will be kept for 25 years, which means your relative's bio data will be recorded and kept for 25 years in the system, which it will be shared with Canadian Immigration. I bet the Canadian Immigration will put a big question mark on her application.

Her only correct move is to withdraw the K1 VISA, wait for a year or longer to establish a creditable relationship with whoever she will married to, then apply.
Thanks for nice explanation..

I can conclude from your answer, that withdrawal from K1 application best than approved visa and then break relationship.??

second point her fiance does withdraw from application...

third point is, if she could not appear in interview due to any cause. then what will happen ? K1 application automatically withdraw? if automatically withdraw then it will impact same conditions on her status as you explained above???

main point if, visa rejected by usa embassy then what will happen? means negative impact on her status if she will get married with canadian citizen in future??

Thank you.
 

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Hi dear all members,

my relative who got engaged with USA citizen in January 2019. Her fiance applied engagement visa (K 1) and it is case is in process. but after communication some issues created and withdrew from engagement. but case is still in process. her fiance has not withdraw case.

My questions are as under;

01) if my relative ( live her home country) got proposal from Canada (lives in Canada as citizen) and applied for sponsorship application for my relative then does USA fiance visa will have negative impact on Canada sponsorship application?

02) if her USA fiance visa got rejected and Canadian spouse applied for sponsorship visa . will USA fiance rejected visa have negative impact on Canada sponsorship application??

03) if her USA fiance withdraw his case , will that thing have impact on Canada sponsorship application.

please response ... she is in very stress. in this scenario what should she do?

help guys..

thanks in advance.
So who she wants to be with? American man or Canadian man? That is the question...
 

lion.com

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canadian man her family perfer
For how long she knows Canadian man? Have they met in real?

If she wants to be with a Canadian man, than she doesn’t want to go to USA and means she doesn’t need that K1 visa. She should withdraw her K1 application and just concentrate on building a strong relationship with the man she chooses.
 

Miraclejj

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Thanks for nice explanation..

I can conclude from your answer, that withdrawal from K1 application best than approved visa and then break relationship.??

second point her fiance does withdraw from application...

third point is, if she could not appear in interview due to any cause. then what will happen ? K1 application automatically withdraw? if automatically withdraw then it will impact same conditions on her status as you explained above???

main point if, visa rejected by usa embassy then what will happen? means negative impact on her status if she will get married with canadian citizen in future??

Thank you.
To be honest with you, the damage has been done, when the K1 application was submitted. At least some basic bio data will be recorded into US immigration system for the future reference, and you bet the Canadian Immigration will access those info/record. But it makes big difference that the K1 application has withdrawn than it has gone through the process and either got approved or denied, in the eyes of CIC. Logically speaking, withdrawn K1 application (one relationship has broken down), then apply for Canadian spousal immigration (establishing another relationship afterwards) is sort of making sense. The real issue here is your relative cannot rush it, it does require some time to establish a genuine relationship.

My sincere suggestion for her is don't play the game with CIC, definitely not with US immigration.