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Taytum

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Sep 8, 2019
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HI EVERYONE,

I meet a big problem and hope you guys can help me out of this. I would be appreciate your any advice

I have received PFL from CIC on September 6, 2019. Just wanted to see if any one has experienced this. Any advice would be appreciated. Below is my time line
CEC Application received on Mar 22,2019
Medical request on May 7, 2019
Procedural Fairness Letter on September 6, 2019

My common law partner and I moved in Canada together on December 29 2017.
Because she holds a student visa, I successfully applied and got an open working visa based on her student visa. Both of ours are valid till June 2020. Thus, before applying CEC, we have already submitted documents to prove our common law relationship and everything went well.

After working a year in Canada, I applied CEC by declaring my partner as a non-accompany partner. I submitted all the documents IRCC needed, but I did not state any reason why i did not take my partner with me to apply EE together.

After waiting about 5 months, I received a procedural letter, the content as flows:


"This refers to your application for permanent residence in Canada.


I'm writing you this letter to express my serious concerns regarding your application. I have concerned that you have incorrectly declare your common law partner as not accompanying and you have not provided any reasons or your intentions are contradictory with the information before me.


It also appears you did not share the same residential address as your claimed common law partner. You were only invited based on Information you declared and an adjustment of your points would mean you would not have been invited in the round of invitation you applied. By declaring your circumstances as you have you gained a material benefit under the act and regulations? please provide all relevant and material Information about why your spouse is considered not to be accompanying you even though they hold a valid temporary resident status to stay in Canada.


Likewise, your current residential address did not match. Please ensure that you update with IRCC any changes in circumstances including address changes.


please provide a new statutory declaration of common law union. IMM 5409.

Proof of cohabitation, no more than 10 pages(utility bills, driver's license insurance documents or policies, mortgage or lease agreement)

I remind you that subsection 41 a of the immigration and refugee protection of I r pa states that a foreign national is inadmissible for misrepresentation for directly or indirectly misrepresenting or withholding material facts relating to our evidence better that includes or could induce an error in the administration of this act. Therefore I'm asking you to submit any additional Information documentation that would align my concerns. You have a teal September 28 20 19 to submit the additional Information using your MyCIC account

I remind you that subsection 40(1)(a) of the immigration and refugee protection Act IRPA states that a “foreign national is inadmissible for misrepresentation for directly or indirectly misrepresenting or withholding material facts relating to a relevant matter that includes or could induce an error in the administration of this act”.

Therefore I'm asking you to submit any additional Information documentation that would allay my concerns. You have until September 28, 2019 to submit the additional Information using your MyCIC account.

If you choose not to respond with additional Information, or if your submission does not allay these concerns, your application may be refused".

Now I have 30 days to submit any document that may satisfy the officer.
I am preparing my document and explaining letter and thinking how to satisfy my officer:

1) My CRS is higher when I apply CEC with only myself so does the officer think I take advantage of this "loophole" to get invited? I understand I shall state the reason why I did not include my common-law partner with me, which i regret I did not do at the first time. But would the officer believe me now? Is it legal to apply without my common law partner? what the good reasons you guys think? Do I need to provide objective documents, which I think is difficult to find....

2) I don't know why my address did not match my partner's. My partner and I are living together when staying in Canada. However, we move our home 4 months ago. I have already asked my agent to update my address. Still do not know why this happen. I will check with my agent again.

3) I can submit the co-habitation documents(driver's license insurance documents or policies and health card) and I guarantee every document I submitted is true. Is there any chance the officer refuse my case and declare i am inadmissible for misrepresentation just because they do not believe my reason for not take my partner together?

4) anything else you guys think I should add to my submission?

I know it's a very long email, but it's my last shot and I am extremely worried now. Thanks everyone in advance.
 
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Enigmabase

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May 16, 2019
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HI EVERYONE,

I meet a big problem and hope you guys can help me out of this. I would be appreciate your any advice

I have received PFL from CIC on September 6, 2019. Just wanted to see if any one has experienced this. Any advice would be appreciated. Below is my time line
CEC Application received on Mar 22,2019
Medical request on May 7, 2019
Procedural Fairness Letter on September 6, 2019

My common law partner and I moved in Canada together on December 29 2017.
Because she holds a student visa, I successfully applied and got an open working visa based on her student visa. Both of ours are valid till June 2020. Thus, before applying CEC, we have already submitted documents to prove our common law relationship and everything went well.

After working a year in Canada, I applied CEC by declaring my partner as a non-accompany partner. I submitted all the documents IRCC needed, but I did not state any reason why i did not take my partner with me to apply EE together.

After waiting about 5 months, I received a procedural letter, the content as flows:


"This refers to your application for permanent residence in Canada.


I'm writing you this letter to express my serious concerns regarding your application. I have concerned that you have incorrectly declare your common law partner as not accompanying and you have not provided any reasons or your intentions are contradictory with the information before me.


It also appears you did not share the same residential address as your claimed common law partner. You were only invited based on Information you declared and an adjustment of your points would mean you would not have been invited in the round of invitation you applied. By declaring your circumstances as you have you gained a material benefit under the act and regulations? please provide all relevant and material Information about why your spouse is considered not to be accompanying you even though they hold a valid temporary resident status to stay in Canada.


Likewise, your current residential address did not match. Please ensure that you update with IRCC any changes in circumstances including address changes.


please provide a new statutory declaration of common law union. IMM 5409.

Proof of cohabitation, no more than 10 pages(utility bills, driver's license insurance documents or policies, mortgage or lease agreement)

I remind you that subsection 41 a of the immigration and refugee protection of I r pa states that a foreign national is inadmissible for misrepresentation for directly or indirectly misrepresenting or withholding material facts relating to our evidence better that includes or could induce an error in the administration of this act. Therefore I'm asking you to submit any additional Information documentation that would align my concerns. You have a teal September 28 20 19 to submit the additional Information using your MyCIC account

I remind you that subsection 40(1)(a) of the immigration and refugee protection Act IRPA states that a “foreign national is inadmissible for misrepresentation for directly or indirectly misrepresenting or withholding material facts relating to a relevant matter that includes or could induce an error in the administration of this act”.

Therefore I'm asking you to submit any additional Information documentation that would allay my concerns. You have until September 28, 2019 to submit the additional Information using your MyCIC account.

If you choose not to respond with additional Information, or if your submission does not allay these concerns, your application may be refused".

Now I have 30 days to submit any document that may satisfy the officer.
I am preparing my document and explaining letter and thinking how to satisfy my officer:

1) My CRS is higher when I apply CEC with only myself so does the officer think I take advantage of this "loophole" to get invited? I understand I shall state the reason why I did not include my common-law partner with me, which i regret I did not do at the first time. But would the officer believe me now? Is it legal to apply without my common law partner? what the good reasons you guys think? Do I need to provide objective documents, which I think is difficult to find....

2) I don't know why my address did not match my partner's. My partner and I are living together when staying in Canada. However, we move our home 4 months ago. I have already asked my agent to update my address. Still do not know why this happen. I will check with my agent again.

3) I can submit the co-habitation documents(driver's license insurance documents or policies and health card) and I guarantee every document I submitted is true. Is there any chance the officer refuse my case and declare i am inadmissible for misrepresentation just because they do not believe my reason for not take my partner together?

4) anything else you guys think I should add to my submission?

I know it's a very long email, but it's my last shot and I am extremely worried now. Thanks everyone in advance.
I suggest that you take every point step by step and provide a good explanation as well as evidence (documents) that address each of the concerns raised. I believe you will be fine with that. All the best.
 
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e-16

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I suggest that you take every point step by step and provide a good explanation as well as evidence (documents) that address each of the concerns raised. I believe you will be fine with that. All the best.
It's a difficult situation. But i agree with what you said, a good explanation backed up with documents should help his case.
HI EVERYONE,

I meet a big problem and hope you guys can help me out of this. I would be appreciate your any advice

I have received PFL from CIC on September 6, 2019. Just wanted to see if any one has experienced this. Any advice would be appreciated. Below is my time line
CEC Application received on Mar 22,2019
Medical request on May 7, 2019
Procedural Fairness Letter on September 6, 2019

My common law partner and I moved in Canada together on December 29 2017.
Because she holds a student visa, I successfully applied and got an open working visa based on her student visa. Both of ours are valid till June 2020. Thus, before applying CEC, we have already submitted documents to prove our common law relationship and everything went well.

After working a year in Canada, I applied CEC by declaring my partner as a non-accompany partner. I submitted all the documents IRCC needed, but I did not state any reason why i did not take my partner with me to apply EE together.

After waiting about 5 months, I received a procedural letter, the content as flows:


"This refers to your application for permanent residence in Canada.


I'm writing you this letter to express my serious concerns regarding your application. I have concerned that you have incorrectly declare your common law partner as not accompanying and you have not provided any reasons or your intentions are contradictory with the information before me.


It also appears you did not share the same residential address as your claimed common law partner. You were only invited based on Information you declared and an adjustment of your points would mean you would not have been invited in the round of invitation you applied. By declaring your circumstances as you have you gained a material benefit under the act and regulations? please provide all relevant and material Information about why your spouse is considered not to be accompanying you even though they hold a valid temporary resident status to stay in Canada.


Likewise, your current residential address did not match. Please ensure that you update with IRCC any changes in circumstances including address changes.


please provide a new statutory declaration of common law union. IMM 5409.

Proof of cohabitation, no more than 10 pages(utility bills, driver's license insurance documents or policies, mortgage or lease agreement)

I remind you that subsection 41 a of the immigration and refugee protection of I r pa states that a foreign national is inadmissible for misrepresentation for directly or indirectly misrepresenting or withholding material facts relating to our evidence better that includes or could induce an error in the administration of this act. Therefore I'm asking you to submit any additional Information documentation that would align my concerns. You have a teal September 28 20 19 to submit the additional Information using your MyCIC account

I remind you that subsection 40(1)(a) of the immigration and refugee protection Act IRPA states that a “foreign national is inadmissible for misrepresentation for directly or indirectly misrepresenting or withholding material facts relating to a relevant matter that includes or could induce an error in the administration of this act”.

Therefore I'm asking you to submit any additional Information documentation that would allay my concerns. You have until September 28, 2019 to submit the additional Information using your MyCIC account.

If you choose not to respond with additional Information, or if your submission does not allay these concerns, your application may be refused".

Now I have 30 days to submit any document that may satisfy the officer.
I am preparing my document and explaining letter and thinking how to satisfy my officer:

1) My CRS is higher when I apply CEC with only myself so does the officer think I take advantage of this "loophole" to get invited? I understand I shall state the reason why I did not include my common-law partner with me, which i regret I did not do at the first time. But would the officer believe me now? Is it legal to apply without my common law partner? what the good reasons you guys think? Do I need to provide objective documents, which I think is difficult to find....

2) I don't know why my address did not match my partner's. My partner and I are living together when staying in Canada. However, we move our home 4 months ago. I have already asked my agent to update my address. Still do not know why this happen. I will check with my agent again.

3) I can submit the co-habitation documents(driver's license insurance documents or policies and health card) and I guarantee every document I submitted is true. Is there any chance the officer refuse my case and declare i am inadmissible for misrepresentation just because they do not believe my reason for not take my partner together?

4) anything else you guys think I should add to my submission?

I know it's a very long email, but it's my last shot and I am extremely worried now. Thanks everyone in advance.
You may need an immigration lawyer/expert to help you here. They would have suggestions based on similar cases they've worked on.
 

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HI EVERYONE,

I meet a big problem and hope you guys can help me out of this. I would be appreciate your any advice

I have received PFL from CIC on September 6, 2019. Just wanted to see if any one has experienced this. Any advice would be appreciated. Below is my time line
CEC Application received on Mar 22,2019
Medical request on May 7, 2019
Procedural Fairness Letter on September 6, 2019

My common law partner and I moved in Canada together on December 29 2017.
Because she holds a student visa, I successfully applied and got an open working visa based on her student visa. Both of ours are valid till June 2020. Thus, before applying CEC, we have already submitted documents to prove our common law relationship and everything went well.

After working a year in Canada, I applied CEC by declaring my partner as a non-accompany partner. I submitted all the documents IRCC needed, but I did not state any reason why i did not take my partner with me to apply EE together.

After waiting about 5 months, I received a procedural letter, the content as flows:


"This refers to your application for permanent residence in Canada.


I'm writing you this letter to express my serious concerns regarding your application. I have concerned that you have incorrectly declare your common law partner as not accompanying and you have not provided any reasons or your intentions are contradictory with the information before me.


It also appears you did not share the same residential address as your claimed common law partner. You were only invited based on Information you declared and an adjustment of your points would mean you would not have been invited in the round of invitation you applied. By declaring your circumstances as you have you gained a material benefit under the act and regulations? please provide all relevant and material Information about why your spouse is considered not to be accompanying you even though they hold a valid temporary resident status to stay in Canada.


Likewise, your current residential address did not match. Please ensure that you update with IRCC any changes in circumstances including address changes.


please provide a new statutory declaration of common law union. IMM 5409.

Proof of cohabitation, no more than 10 pages(utility bills, driver's license insurance documents or policies, mortgage or lease agreement)

I remind you that subsection 41 a of the immigration and refugee protection of I r pa states that a foreign national is inadmissible for misrepresentation for directly or indirectly misrepresenting or withholding material facts relating to our evidence better that includes or could induce an error in the administration of this act. Therefore I'm asking you to submit any additional Information documentation that would align my concerns. You have a teal September 28 20 19 to submit the additional Information using your MyCIC account

I remind you that subsection 40(1)(a) of the immigration and refugee protection Act IRPA states that a “foreign national is inadmissible for misrepresentation for directly or indirectly misrepresenting or withholding material facts relating to a relevant matter that includes or could induce an error in the administration of this act”.

Therefore I'm asking you to submit any additional Information documentation that would allay my concerns. You have until September 28, 2019 to submit the additional Information using your MyCIC account.

If you choose not to respond with additional Information, or if your submission does not allay these concerns, your application may be refused".

Now I have 30 days to submit any document that may satisfy the officer.
I am preparing my document and explaining letter and thinking how to satisfy my officer:

1) My CRS is higher when I apply CEC with only myself so does the officer think I take advantage of this "loophole" to get invited? I understand I shall state the reason why I did not include my common-law partner with me, which i regret I did not do at the first time. But would the officer believe me now? Is it legal to apply without my common law partner? what the good reasons you guys think? Do I need to provide objective documents, which I think is difficult to find....

2) I don't know why my address did not match my partner's. My partner and I are living together when staying in Canada. However, we move our home 4 months ago. I have already asked my agent to update my address. Still do not know why this happen. I will check with my agent again.

3) I can submit the co-habitation documents(driver's license insurance documents or policies and health card) and I guarantee every document I submitted is true. Is there any chance the officer refuse my case and declare i am inadmissible for misrepresentation just because they do not believe my reason for not take my partner together?

4) anything else you guys think I should add to my submission?

I know it's a very long email, but it's my last shot and I am extremely worried now. Thanks everyone in advance.
As you didn't mention anything about why your partner is non-accompanying, the officer is doubting your intention. Submit the documents the officer has requested.
1. Did your score drop down if you included your partner.
2. I guess the agent didn't update it. Double check your profile, and submit address proof as requested.
4. Just be truthful, you can say that it was a genuine mistake and explain your case. Best is to take help of a lawyer.
 

Taytum

Member
Sep 8, 2019
19
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As you didn't mention anything about why your partner is non-accompanying, the officer is doubting your intention. Submit the documents the officer has requested.
1. Did your score drop down if you included your partner.
2. I guess the agent didn't update it. Double check your profile, and submit address proof as requested.
4. Just be truthful, you can say that it was a genuine mistake and explain your case. Best is to take help of a lawyer.
Yes. If I took my partner with me, the CRS would dropped below the invitation score and I wouldn't be invited in the round. So I think this is why the Visa Officer questions my intention.

If I provide some reasons like my partner do not want to immigrate now or she want to go back to hometown to be with her parents, would the officer believe me? As reasons are quite subjective, although it is absolutely true, and I cannot find an objective documents to support my reasons. If I cannot prove my intention, would the officer regard me as misrepresentative and give me 5 years ban? I am so worried about it.
 
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Enigmabase

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May 16, 2019
43
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Yes. If I took my partner with me, the CRS would dropped below the invitation score and I wouldn't be invited in the round. So I think this is why the Visa Officer questions my intention.

If I provide some reasons like my partner do not want to immigrate now or she want to go back to hometown to be with her parents, would the officer believe me? As reasons are quite subjective, although it is absolutely true, and I cannot find an objective documents to support my reasons. If I cannot prove my intention, would the officer regard me as misrepresentative and give me 5 years ban? I am so worried about it.
There are too many questions to answer it seems. Especially since your decision to not include your CL partner on whose study permit you got your work permit affects your score and raises other questions. Please invest in the services of an immigration lawyer. I think that will be your best option at this point. And please do it quickly.
 
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Rocky Kundu

Full Member
Sep 15, 2019
27
4
HI EVERYONE,

I meet a big problem and hope you guys can help me out of this. I would be appreciate your any advice

I have received PFL from CIC on September 6, 2019. Just wanted to see if any one has experienced this. Any advice would be appreciated. Below is my time line
CEC Application received on Mar 22,2019
Medical request on May 7, 2019
Procedural Fairness Letter on September 6, 2019

My common law partner and I moved in Canada together on December 29 2017.
Because she holds a student visa, I successfully applied and got an open working visa based on her student visa. Both of ours are valid till June 2020. Thus, before applying CEC, we have already submitted documents to prove our common law relationship and everything went well.

After working a year in Canada, I applied CEC by declaring my partner as a non-accompany partner. I submitted all the documents IRCC needed, but I did not state any reason why i did not take my partner with me to apply EE together.

After waiting about 5 months, I received a procedural letter, the content as flows:


"This refers to your application for permanent residence in Canada.


I'm writing you this letter to express my serious concerns regarding your application. I have concerned that you have incorrectly declare your common law partner as not accompanying and you have not provided any reasons or your intentions are contradictory with the information before me.


It also appears you did not share the same residential address as your claimed common law partner. You were only invited based on Information you declared and an adjustment of your points would mean you would not have been invited in the round of invitation you applied. By declaring your circumstances as you have you gained a material benefit under the act and regulations? please provide all relevant and material Information about why your spouse is considered not to be accompanying you even though they hold a valid temporary resident status to stay in Canada.


Likewise, your current residential address did not match. Please ensure that you update with IRCC any changes in circumstances including address changes.


please provide a new statutory declaration of common law union. IMM 5409.

Proof of cohabitation, no more than 10 pages(utility bills, driver's license insurance documents or policies, mortgage or lease agreement)

I remind you that subsection 41 a of the immigration and refugee protection of I r pa states that a foreign national is inadmissible for misrepresentation for directly or indirectly misrepresenting or withholding material facts relating to our evidence better that includes or could induce an error in the administration of this act. Therefore I'm asking you to submit any additional Information documentation that would align my concerns. You have a teal September 28 20 19 to submit the additional Information using your MyCIC account

I remind you that subsection 40(1)(a) of the immigration and refugee protection Act IRPA states that a “foreign national is inadmissible for misrepresentation for directly or indirectly misrepresenting or withholding material facts relating to a relevant matter that includes or could induce an error in the administration of this act”.

Therefore I'm asking you to submit any additional Information documentation that would allay my concerns. You have until September 28, 2019 to submit the additional Information using your MyCIC account.

If you choose not to respond with additional Information, or if your submission does not allay these concerns, your application may be refused".

Now I have 30 days to submit any document that may satisfy the officer.
I am preparing my document and explaining letter and thinking how to satisfy my officer:

1) My CRS is higher when I apply CEC with only myself so does the officer think I take advantage of this "loophole" to get invited? I understand I shall state the reason why I did not include my common-law partner with me, which i regret I did not do at the first time. But would the officer believe me now? Is it legal to apply without my common law partner? what the good reasons you guys think? Do I need to provide objective documents, which I think is difficult to find....

2) I don't know why my address did not match my partner's. My partner and I are living together when staying in Canada. However, we move our home 4 months ago. I have already asked my agent to update my address. Still do not know why this happen. I will check with my agent again.

3) I can submit the co-habitation documents(driver's license insurance documents or policies and health card) and I guarantee every document I submitted is true. Is there any chance the officer refuse my case and declare i am inadmissible for misrepresentation just because they do not believe my reason for not take my partner together?

4) anything else you guys think I should add to my submission?

I know it's a very long email, but it's my last shot and I am extremely worried now. Thanks everyone in advance.
Hi Taytum,
I am in similar situation like you are in now. Now we are passing very hard day in frustration. I would like to hear from you what have you been gone through. Please reply me or contact me . Thanks
 

Taytum

Member
Sep 8, 2019
19
3
Hi Taytum,
I am in similar situation like you are in now. Now we are passing very hard day in frustration. I would like to hear from you what have you been gone through. Please reply me or contact me . Thanks
Hi Rocky,
Now i am working hard on my explanation letter. I will see my lawyer tomorrow to get some advices.
What is your situation? Have you submitted your application already?
 

Taytum

Member
Sep 8, 2019
19
3
There are too many questions to answer it seems. Especially since your decision to not include your CL partner on whose study permit you got your work permit affects your score and raises other questions. Please invest in the services of an immigration lawyer. I think that will be your best option at this point. And please do it quickly.
Thanks a lot for your suggestions. Now I am looking for a lawyer's advice. Hope everything goes well.
 
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Taytum

Member
Sep 8, 2019
19
3
Hi Taytum,
Yes I've already submitted my application. Please reply..
Hi Rocky,

Sorry for the late reply. I am struggling with my reply.....How is your situation now? May be you can post here in detail and we can see how it works
 

Rocky Kundu

Full Member
Sep 15, 2019
27
4
Hi Rocky,

Sorry for the late reply. I am struggling with my reply.....How is your situation now? May be you can post here in detail and we can see how it works
Please contact me. I feel that would save our time and understand better. Thanks